12-11-2019 06:11 AM
I won an item that's coming from Mumbai, India.
Looking at the tracking I see this:
Delivery office Canada
Tariff 182.00
What is this tariff? The item only cost $26 CAD. Am I going to have to pay $182 in import duties/taxes/tariffs?
12-11-2019 07:35 AM
Whether taxes and duty are assessed on your item by incoming Customs depends entirely on the nature of the item and its value; this is the nature of importing items into your country of residence regardless of whether you are shopping online or traveling abroad.
12-11-2019 09:38 AM - edited 12-11-2019 09:39 AM
@what-does-your-watch-say wrote:I won an item that's coming from Mumbai, India.
Looking at the tracking I see this:
Delivery office Canada
Tariff 182.00
How is it being shipped?
It is unusual to see a tariff listed as part of tracking.
Some freight companies have very high processing charges.
And sometimes customs clearance paperwork gets screwed up, with wrong charges being calculated. I once had a 25 item package worth $100 be processed by a DHL clerk as 25 items worth $100 each -- way, way, overvalued for the taxes/duty calculation.
12-11-2019 10:36 AM
@momcqueen wrote:Whether taxes and duty are assessed on your item by incoming Customs depends entirely on the nature of the item and its value; this is the nature of importing items into your country of residence regardless of whether you are shopping online or traveling abroad.
I'm sorry, but do you really believe this was a helpful reply? It answered nothing.
12-11-2019 10:41 AM
@ypdc_dennis wrote:
How is it being shipped?It is unusual to see a tariff listed as part of tracking.Some freight companies have very high processing charges.And sometimes customs clearance paperwork gets screwed up, with wrong charges being calculated. I once had a 25 item package worth $100 be processed by a DHL clerk as 25 items worth $100 each -- way, way, overvalued for the taxes/duty calculation.
From what I can tell it's registered mail. I found this online chart of tariffs charged for shipping from India Post and it appears to be based on weight and distance.
I'm wondering if the seller took multiple items and it's all weighed as one unit, like your example.
12-11-2019 12:04 PM - edited 12-11-2019 12:05 PM
12-11-2019 01:43 PM
I posted a reply to ypdc_dennis but for some reason it's not here anymore.
The package is being sent by India Post registered mail.
I found a link that showed tariffs on shipped items locally and internationally.
The tariffs were based on weight and distance.
I'm wondering if this is a situation where the seller took multiple items to the post at once and they were all shipped as one item, perhaps weighted together before being loaded on the plane and the tariff is that the seller was charged for shipping.
12-11-2019 02:01 PM
Any import over $20Cdn is likely to be assessed for duty and sales tax. The customs broker can also charge for his services.
Is the $182 in Canadian dollars? Or is it in rupees? (There are 53 rupees to the loonie.)
You can avoid the brokerage fee by wrangling the purchase through customs yourself.
This is sometimes more expensive than allowing a company to do it, depending on your wages and how many hours it will take you, which is why most importers pay the broker to do it.
There is an archived thread about UPS over 5000 posts long complaining about their brokerage fees, which start at $25 and rise from there. UPS will not turn over the shipment until their fees are paid.
Generally, on low value, small (not bulky) goods it is worth confirming that the seller will be using the postal system for delivery. CBSA has decided not to bother with assessing and charging duty and sales taxes on such shipments, because it would cost the taxpayer more to do so than to pass them through uninspected.
Sometimes the seller will give the retail value of the item, purchased at a discount, rather than the actual purchase price. Usually this is done by US sellers, for some reason.
12-11-2019 11:15 PM
a situation where the seller took multiple items to the post at once and they were all shipped as one item, perhaps weighted together before being loaded on the plane
That -- and the one where a dozen items with a total value was assessed as a dozen items each with the total value-- is the best reason for doing your own brokerage.
It is also possible to pay the shipper his fee, then appeal to CBSA if there is an error. The CBSA contact is on the back of the customs paperwork, I believe. This would not get the shipper's service fee back.
12-12-2019 01:29 AM
12-12-2019 01:33 AM
12-12-2019 02:20 AM
In doing some research it appears India uses an 8 digit HS coding system.
The Indian customs classification on tariff items follows the Harmonized Commodity Description and Coding System (Harmonized System or HS). Customs uses six-digit HS codes, the Directorate-General of Commercial Intelligence and Statistics (DGCI&S) uses eight-digit codes for statistical purposes, and the Directorate General of Foreign Trade (DGFT) has broadly extended the eight-digit DGCI&S codes up to 10 digits.
9605 TRAVEL SETS FOR PERSONAL TOILET, SEWING OR
SHOE OR CLOTHES CLEANING
9605 00 - Travel sets for personal toilet, sewing or
shoe or clothes cleaning :
9605 00 10 --- For personal toilet u 10% -
9605 00 90 --- Other u 10% -
9704 00 10 --- Used postal stamp kg. Free -
9704 00 20 --- Used or unused first-day covers for philatelists kg. Free -
9704 00 90 --- Other kg. Free -
_________________________________
______________________________________________________________________________________________Lotz
12-12-2019 11:26 AM
@what-does-your-watch-say wrote:
The package is being sent by India Post registered mail.
I found a link that showed tariffs on shipped items locally and internationally.
The tariffs were based on weight and distance.
If the item hasn't reached Canada Border Services yet, there's no way India Post would know the tariffs owing on it. It's not India Post's responsibility to calculate fees owing by an importer in another country.
Given how Indian English has its peculiarities (just as Canadian English has its quirks), I'm now wondering if a different definition of "tariff" is being employed here, especially as you believe it's being applied to the item's weight and travel distance, not its declared value. A British definition of "tariff" is "fee schedule" and has nothing to do with fees related to an item's importation. I'm wondering if in this case, this is either the mailing charge for the item, a surcharge related to the item's registration, or something akin to the "minimum density" or volumetric weight charges Canada Post levies on parcels.
On which postal system's website are you checking the tracking?
12-12-2019 02:25 PM
The multiple meanings of "tariff" combined with the lack of a currency indication struck me too.
CBSA charges duty and sales taxes and calls them that.
I also thought of the HS codes, which are international and do not vary from country to country, but they are longer. Hmm - DVDs are 8533.40 - is the purchase a recording of any sort?
12-12-2019 03:23 PM