
03-13-2017 05:47 PM
Does anybody know of a 3rd party insurance company that will insure small packages sent to RUSSIA shipped using Canada post untracked airmail?? Thanks for any info.
03-13-2017 06:26 PM
No.
03-13-2017 09:46 PM
@realjazz-123 wrote:Does anybody know of a 3rd party insurance company that will insure small packages sent to RUSSIA shipped using Canada post untracked airmail?? Thanks for any info.
Short answer: No.
Russia is regarded by insurance companies as unreliable and untrustworthy. With weak law enforcement against corrupt officials and thieves in the customs department. While most of the buyers are honest, the system is not.
U-PIC list of no insurance countries (Russia is on this list):
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InsurePost (Shipsurance) list of countries that can be insured (Russia is not on this list):
https://www.insurepost.com/questions.asp
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03-14-2017 01:42 AM
Thanks for the helpful response. I called several companies and you are right- no way to ship insured to Russia with Canada Post (except, possibly) if you are a VERY high volume shipper).
03-14-2017 08:25 AM - edited 03-14-2017 08:27 AM
However, it does look like surface mail to Russia comes with $75 insurance.
Of course that method is too slow for eBay items, but it might work in some situations.
https://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/prices/RCRZ-e-ISC.pdf
03-14-2017 12:23 PM
I think I read the chart incorrectly the first time.
It looks like insurance up to $1,000 is available for surface mail to Russia.
03-14-2017 02:45 PM
@sylviebee wrote:I think I read the chart incorrectly the first time.
It looks like insurance up to $1,000 is available for surface mail to Russia.
The chart shows International Parcel Air and International Parcel Surface both with $1,000 insurance coverage. Priority Worldwide has $75 insurance coverage.
03-15-2017 01:26 PM
One thing I thought I'd mention is that a seller should be aware of the "touch-down" provision, even if insurance coverage is available for Russia.
That is, in many cases, although a carrier will provide insurance to Russia, coverage ceases once the plane carrying the parcel first touches down within Russia, or the parcel is offloaded at the first Russian port. In other words, the insurance doesn't apply for the leg of the trip where you would really most want it, which to my mind makes the insurance rather pointless.
All I can say is that if you do find a carrier who will insure to Russia, be sure to read the fine print of that carrier's conditions and limits and understand what risks you're accepting if a valuable item is involved. The insurance may not be worth paying for.
03-15-2017 02:38 PM
@rose-dee wrote:One thing I thought I'd mention is that a seller should be aware of the "touch-down" provision, even if insurance coverage is available for Russia.
That is, in many cases, although a carrier will provide insurance to Russia, coverage ceases once the plane carrying the parcel first touches down within Russia, or the parcel is offloaded at the first Russian port. In other words, the insurance doesn't apply for the leg of the trip where you would really most want it, which to my mind makes the insurance rather pointless.
All I can say is that if you do find a carrier who will insure to Russia, be sure to read the fine print of that carrier's conditions and limits and understand what risks you're accepting if a valuable item is involved. The insurance may not be worth paying for.
Hi rose. It sounds like you've done your research, and I appreciate that you've posted here. I've had problems with the CPO honouring an insurance claim. It felt shady when they denied my last claim and the whole process was questionable from start to end.
If an item is lost or damaged how could they know where en route that took place? After my experience I wouldn't be surprised if the onus is on the shipper to prove where it occurred. When amounts get higher they get very squirmy.
Also, where in CPC's fine print did you read about the "touch-down" provision?
03-15-2017 03:07 PM
You make the very important point that I was told by one insurance company. If a package arrives and is scanned by Russian Postal service, any insurance coverage is voided. He explained that sometimes packages are delivered successfully to the address without being scanned and presumably are still insured. So, in fact, no claims are made anyway. HUH??? The whole issue of insured shipping to Russia is far too complicated and as you suggest, not worth the potential problems.
03-15-2017 03:41 PM - edited 03-15-2017 03:42 PM
About a month ago Putin was in the news boasting that Russia has the best prostitutes (in the world). Now if only they could clean up their Post Office and get it running up to snuff too.
03-15-2017 04:51 PM
Auctiva uses shipsurance and in their info they mention the touch down provision.. I am sure that was what rose was referring to,not Canada Post. It can actually work in your favour if your package does not have tracking. They wouldn't know if the parcel was lost in Russia or in North America so it would still be insured. At least that's what they told me when I asked them about it a couple of years ago. But I'm fairly sure that you can only use shipsurance if you have a group policy available to you or a blanket policy for all of your packages.
Here is the wording....
For shipments to Russian and other Commonwealth of Independent States countries (includes Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russia, Russian Federation, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan) coverage ceases upon touchdown of the aircraft at the airport of destination or upon discharge from the overseas vessel at the destination discharge port.
03-16-2017 12:41 AM
Be very careful with those countries listed here, you can send Tracked Packet but only up to $100.00 for insurance but if over $100.00, you are out of luck as some of them are not shipped by XpressPost.
I have excluded countries that accept XpressPost only to protect myself as the eBay shipping system is very vague and not enough information for us to choose. I wish eBay would allow to excluded some countries only Tracked Packet and other countries only by XpressPost.
03-16-2017 04:40 AM
@Anonymous wrote:Be very careful with those countries listed here, you can send Tracked Packet but only up to $100.00 for insurance but if over $100.00, you are out of luck as some of them are not shipped by XpressPost.
Those country lists are for THIRD PARTY add-on insurance. Nothing to do with Canada Post insurance.
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