12-11-2014 10:14 PM
You will find these banners plastered all over eBay in big caps.
MONEY BACK GUARANTEE - IF YOU DON'T GET WHAT YOU ORDERED, WE'LL GET YOUR MONEY BACK FOR YOU.
Usually followed by this cut and paste quote: "You’ll hear from us in 48 hours. If you still haven’t received your item, or it isn’t as described, we’ll refund your purchase price, plus the original shipping".
eBay is going to refund the purchase - not the seller. Whether you agreed to that program or not - that's what it says.
What it really saying is: eBay does not trust it's sellers and either should buyers.
Who are the marketing idiots that come up with this stuff? Aside from cutting the throats of sellers prior to a sale, does it not also undermine eBay itself.
It is just stupid.
12-11-2014 10:44 PM - edited 12-11-2014 10:45 PM
That was my impression and feeling of the eBay Money Back Guarantee advertising so prominently.
I find the Money Back Guarantee campaign to be very negative in its sound. It implies that buying on eBay is a problem. It must have been and still must be to have to go to this extreme of "in your face" advertising of the eBay Money Back guarantee.
Over the years when I have talked about eBay to friends and acquaintances and even strangers, I was always surprised at the number that had negative opinions of eBay either through personal experience or some one they know. Some refuse to ever shop on eBay. Too many scammers is what they say. Goods are not as described.
Amazon is never referred to negatively even close to the strong opinions about eBay. Amazon is never referred to as having scammers. What is impressive is how often a buyer on Amazon says shipping was super fast.
12-11-2014 11:18 PM
I absolutely agree with both of you.
The quick conclusion for a prospective customer has to be; it must/ is broken, and now they are trying to fix it.
These banners have been up for a week or so, and although they make me cringe, they are way less damaging than the "action button" change you posted about previously rosscd57.
It's, kind of a, what if we let the junior high school business class fix our problems (LOL).
I'm sure Amazon and Alibaba (Main 11) are laughing at these missteps. All the way to the bank.
EBay, please, give your head a shake!
Returns are not the answer.
I hate returning anything. Even to Costco, who do make the process less painful, I don't want to even think about returns, when I'm purchasing anything.
12-12-2014 08:53 PM
"You’ll hear from us in 48 hours. If you still haven’t received your item, or it isn’t as described, we’ll refund your purchase price, plus the original shipping".
I don't get the 'hear from us in 48 hours comment' The last I heard, sellers had 3 days to reply yet ebay is going to contact the buyers in less time than that?
12-12-2014 09:13 PM
Returns are not the answer.
I agree. Ebay tells us that when a buyer contacts about us about a problem...even if the problem is immediately fixed we receive a defect because if the buyer has to contact us about a problem that means that they are having a bad buying experience and may not return to the site.
So now they are advertising that the buyer may have a bad buying experience before they even buy anything? Not a good strategy.
They are basically saying...
"Buy from us. You may not like what you receive or you may not even get your item but hey..we'll give you your money back so no worries"
I would rather buy from a place that doesn't assume there are going to be problems with a transaction.
12-13-2014 12:03 PM
Feels like they are Insulting sellers and misleading buyers.
12-13-2014 01:23 PM
No surprise here half the EBay young managers and policy makers read and collect DC comic books like Bizarro World, inverted opposite of expectations.
12-14-2014 02:26 AM
We know customers need protection but let sellers do their jobs without Big brother in our auctions.
It is already a given that refunds are standard eBay should tone down the refund literature it's overkill.
12-14-2014 01:13 PM - edited 12-14-2014 01:16 PM
I know this MBG ad campaign and its consequences rankle a lot of sellers, but the way I see it is that eBay had to do something to get its buyers to come 'through the doors' (or to come back) by reassuring them that there will never be a problem if they aren't completely happy with an item.
Aside from the stupid guy grinning broadly in my face out of every one of these ads -- which I am getting sick of seeing -- the principle is the same one many big retailers use. Think of the last time you had to return an item to Sears (or years before, to Eaton's). Companies like Eaton's built their reputation on a no-questions-asked full refund guarantee. Buyers have come to expect it.
Now the problem, as I see it from eBay's viewpoint is that they need to attract buyers, they want to act like any other big commercial online retailer, but they're obviously not in that category. They are still a collection of millions of individual sellers, with a few hundred big retailers at the top of the pyramid. EBay likely had no choice but to impose the same MBG across the board, yet it does favour the large volume commercial sellers because they already have systems and costing in place to handle returns. It's no skin off their noses to have, say, a 5% MBG return rate.
Once again, as much as I understand the principle and the intent of the MBG, this is a policy that, by its nature, accommodates the biggest sellers and is a disadvantage -- or even hardship -- for millions of little sellers working out of their basements at home. Again, like many other of eBay's "big boy" policies, it will have the effect of weeding out another sector of the very small sellers. Those who come to eBay to sell on an occasional basis and find themselves with a handful of MBG returns (whether legitimate or fraudulent) will soon rack up the defects and be gone.
As I've said many times in the past year, smaller sellers should not expect any favours from eBay from now on. EBay's focus is on its biggest money-makers. Sellers who can't act like major commercial retailers will have a very hard time of it. And this is even before we see what the Spring Seller 2015 Update holds in store.
12-14-2014 02:00 PM
l sure am not willing to sell expensive items when EBay can refund in 48 hours, how will You know if item will be returned, yea EBay has our best interest at heart, NOT
12-14-2014 02:10 PM
I felt that eBay MUST tell buyers that they MUST RETURN the items to sellers for refunds.
No returns = No refunds, period. And that includes the buyers have to pay return postage.
As for eBay saying would refund in 48 hours while the items are on enroute to them, that is NOT acceptable. eBay needs to change it to 3-4 weeks.
Also it means we have to use mail service with tracking number to ensure that the package arrived. I am not comfortable with that horrible idea by eBay. What promotes them to do that. I understand it can be done in persons like you can go back to the store for refund but for online and mailing, it is a VERY BAD IDEA.
Whenever eBay send you survey, I hope you would respond and tell them about that horrible policy for 48 hours, etc. We need lots of people telling eBay we don't like it, period. Otherwise eBay gets away with it by "killing" sellers with that horrible idea.
12-14-2014 02:15 PM
Where does it say that buyers get their money back in 48 hours and/or before the return has been received by the seller??????????????
12-14-2014 03:24 PM
@recped wrote:Where does it say that buyers get their money back in 48 hours and/or before the return has been received by the seller??????????????
On the following page it does suggest that the buyer will hear from them within 48 hours and get their money back. But on the more MBG detailed pages I don't see 48 hours mentioned at all. Even if that isn't what they meant, I think that some people are going to take it that way.
http://pages.ebay.ca/ebay-money-back-guarantee/
1. Reach out to your seller
If your item hasn’t arrived or
isn’t as described, get in touch with your seller.
2. Not resolved? Let us know.
If your issue’s not resolved in 3 business days, contact us.
3. We'll get your money back fast.
You’ll hear from us in 48 hours. If you still haven’t received your item, or it isn’t as described, we’ll refund your purchase price, plus the original shipping.
12-14-2014 04:55 PM
On the following page it does suggest that the buyer will hear from them within 48 hours and get their money back. But on the more MBG detailed pages I don't see 48 hours mentioned at all. Even if that isn't what they meant, I think that some people are going to take it that way.
http://pages.ebay.ca/ebay-money-back-guarantee/
1. Reach out to your seller
If your item hasn’t arrived or
isn’t as described, get in touch with your seller.
2. Not resolved? Let us know.
If your issue’s not resolved in 3 business days, contact us.
3. We'll get your money back fast.
You’ll hear from us in 48 hours. If you still haven’t received your item, or it isn’t as described, we’ll refund your purchase price, plus the original shipping.
Do any sellers know what are the facts? not likely to sell expensive listings until solved, thanks
12-14-2014 04:59 PM - edited 12-14-2014 05:01 PM
The biggest problem with big retailers and Ebay, is the big retailers will not allow a return of a box of rocks or stripped items, while Ebay allows it with no problem.
Their refund or guarantee policies are no where near the same.
12-14-2014 09:46 PM