buyers saying item is unavailable when trying to purchase!?!?!?!?

I am getting a number of buyers asking if item is for sale when purchasing single parts and/or parts are unavailable when trying to combine items. Anyone else??? Doesn`t surprise me one bit, yet another ebay issue... MAJOR ISSUE. How many potential buyers/sales have I lost or will lose. Guess I will have to waste my valuable time and contact ebay about the issue and get no where.

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Hi 'pj' -- I finally got some clarification from Raphael in a message after the Wed. session, and I now understand that there is no "fix" in the offing.  What many of us didn't understand is that eBay never intended carts to be universal, i.e. to be able to "talk" to each other across sites, and that that is unlikely to ever happen. 

 

Although I appreciate Raphael's situation, the problem I was having with the eBay.ca reps. is that they have been beating around the bush for months, rather than simply being clear that there will probably never be a seamless cart experience throughout eBay sites -- it is apparently a practical impossibility at this point in eBay's history.  

 

My point now is that, OK, if we can't expect one workable cart for all eBay sites, there are enough Canadian sellers relying on U.S. sales that the Canadian cart should be dropped completely until such time as the U.S. cart can be re-tooled to be workable with .ca (if ever).  

 

Things were working just fine for me at least before the cart was introduced on .ca -- as usual with eBay, it seems they put the cart before the horse (Woman LOL), the "horse" being the U.S. market. 

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I do agree with everything you've said above, although I've never seen Raphael being quite so shrill and brusque as he was this week.  Maybe you're right that those guys are running scared.  

 

Whether or not he was right to answer as he did, I think that it was frustration that caused it, not being scared. I think that he has been trying to explain what the problem is and people aren't really understanding it.

 

I'm glad that you got an explanation from him by email although it doesn't make sense to me that the site itself would have to be 'redesigned'. The newer Australian, Canadian and Germany carts work with carts on other sites and I'm sure that they did not redesign the sites in order to set those up. They probably do need to totally redesign the .com and the UK site carts as those older carts do not work with other carts but having to redesign the sites themselves doesn't sound right.

 

One point I still am not clear on is why eBay hasn't removed the cart from the Canadian site entirely (I've asked this question a few times at the Wed. sessions but have never really got an answer).  From my perspective -- as 'lady stark' mentioned above -- things were working just fine before the cart was introduced on .ca, then all hell broke loose.  Can't we just dump the troublesome cart, I wonder?  

 

As Raphael has said,the problem is not with the .ca cart so removing it is not going to help.The .com cart is the problem...not the Canadian cart. As I mentioned before, the problem for many sellers started when the .com cart was started as ebay began to require immediate payment for listings in some categories. Perhaps your category was not affected at the time but many categories, including mine, were affected. If you just started having a problem when the ca cart was introduced then I would guess that just happened to be when ebay started requiring immediate payment on .com in your categories.

 

In my mind, the best solution would be for them to stop requiring immediate payment on .com. If the seller wants to ask for immediate payment, they can, but if the seller does not want to require it, then their buyers can buy multiple items without using a cart.

 

I realize that your buy 5 get free shipping promo is not working on .ca but I suspect that is because the cart only recognizes the promo when there are 5 items that do not already have free shipping. When you have 3 free shipping items and 2 with shipping, the cart is confused but I don't think that it is a flaw specific to the ca cart.  If the promo worked before the cart, buyers on .ca should still be able to get the promo if they don't use the cart here. It won't work on .com though because they do require immediate payment.

 

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Although I appreciate Raphael's situation, the problem I was having with the eBay.ca reps. is that they have been beating around the bush for months, rather than simply being clear that there will probably never be a seamless cart experience throughout eBay sites -- it is apparently a practical impossibility at this point in eBay's history.  

 

 

Hmm....I haven't gotten the impression that it can't be done otherwise how could they have done it on .ca? I also didn't notice any beating around the bush from the reps.  But I'm sure that making a change is very complicated and that they probably don't consider it a priority.

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@pjcdn2005 wrote:

 

Hmm....I haven't gotten the impression that it can't be done otherwise how could they have done it on .ca? I also didn't notice any beating around the bush from the reps.  But I'm sure that making a change is very complicated and that they probably don't consider it a priority.


The practical impossibility appears to be instituting a cart that will function seamlessly across all sites, i.e. a universal cart, rather than site-specific carts.  Although this would clearly be an ideal solution (c.f. Amazon, Sears, etc. etc. etc. who have done it), it doesn't sound as if that is ever going to happen for eBay. 

 

The bottom line is -- it's a mess, whatever way you look at it.  This reminds me of somebody trying to build a custom car from diverse manufacturers' parts, some old, some brand new, and ending up with a creation that really doesn't even do the basic things you'd expect.

 

Your explanation of why US multiple orders worked prior to mid-summer 2014 makes sense, but how can we really know what the reason is?  I have never seen any of the eBay reps address this particular question.   

 

For Canadians who sell largely to Canadians, it's likely not a problem.  For eBay US, it's likely not a problem. But for Canadian sellers whose businesses rely heavily on US customers, it's a very critical issue.  

 

If I have one US customer who tries to make a multiple purchase from me and is unable to do so (and doesn't contact me, as most buyers don't), then that person is likely not going to bother coming back again, and may even give up on eBay.  

 

After all the lip-service given to "keeping buyers coming back" as a rationale for the defect system, this is one problem eBay seems to be rather blind to that in my view may be just as big an issue in turning off US or offshore buyers. 

 

 

 

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" Amazon, Sears, etc. etc. etc. who have done it"

 

I am not familiar with those carts and I am curious: do they really work when the items purchased are priced in different currencies?

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it is basically same option as "pay all sellers at once", but instead of Purchase section will be in buyers cart. 

Something between Wishlist and Immediate payment.

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@pierrelebel wrote:

" Amazon, Sears, etc. etc. etc. who have done it"

 

I am not familiar with those carts and I am curious: do they really work when the items purchased are priced in different currencies?


All I can tell you (from having made the occasional multiple purchase on each), is that the checkout is seamless and apparently adjusts to the user's country location/currency automatically, i.e. a "universal" cart, whether I log onto the .com or .ca version of those sites.  On some other US websites I've purchased from, the currency doesn't adjust, but the 2 or 3 I'm thinking of are smaller businesses.  

 

I expect there is some way the Amazon, Search, etc. sites can recognize what my location is and show the appropriate screen on checkout, I really don't know.  However, a "universal" cart is apparently not practically feasible for eBay.   

 

Pierre, since according to eBay staffers the only way to avoid US buyers having problems with multiple orders from Cdn sellers is for us to list on .com, and since I know you've listed on .com for some time, would you be able to provide an outline of what the differences are (from a Cdn seller's standpoint), how to set up shipping, whether there are any issues to be aware of, and what pitfalls to watch for generally?  

 

I am very reluctant to go through the process of re-creating each of my listings elsewhere, and even more leery of giving up my access to Canada Post listing options, and my access to subtitles (for listings currently on .cafr).  Whether listing on .com would really increase multiple-order sales enough to be worth the trouble and worth losing .ca features, and would offset potential problems on .com is my dilemma at the moment.  

 

I'm sure other Cdn sellers are in the same boat -- do we lose potential multi-order US buyers, or risk potential defects related to shipping (for example), by using a non-Canadian format?  You may not ship a lot of orders using Light/Small Packet Air and Expedited and Paypal labels, but many of us do.  It occurred to me that if I list on .com, for example, I may be paying for everything associated with eBay in $US, including shipping labels, listing fees and seller account charges -- do you know if that's the case? 

 

 

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As stated earlier, my customers do not seem to have any major problem with the "shopping cart", although personally I think the concept of a "shopping cart" on eBay was and remains ill advised.

 

Why?  Because buyers regularly abandon their "shopping cart".  There have been hundreds of studies on the subject and everyone of them - without exception - show large percentage of abandonment.

 

http://baymard.com/lists/cart-abandonment-rate

 

eBay tried a "shopping cart" concept about eight years ago (eBay Express).  It failed to attract sufficient interest to cover the cost of operations.  They started the new "shopping cart" about three years ago and - as far as I am concerned - it is a failure as it has not helped eBay increase sales.  The growth experienced by eBay over the last few years has been more or less in line with its previous growth rate and below the overall online market. 

 

In conclusion - having or not having a "shopping cart" on eBay has not helped the average seller sell more.  Why bother?

 

One reason my customers have no problem with it may be that all my listings offered "free shipping" worldwide (we are moving and all have been ended until I re-open my eBay store in April or May).

As we know more than half all listings on eBay offer "free shipping" although I realize it is a lot more difficult for Canadian sellers to do so due to higher shipping costs from Canada.

 

Until I ended my listings, 25% were listed on eBay.com in US$ and 75% listed on eBay.ca in Cdn$.

 

Yes there were the odd instances - as Frank Sinatra would say "too few to remember" -  where a buyer would purchase from both sites in both currencies.  It did not matter to the buyer since I paid all shipping regardless.

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I`m sorry but to say not to have a shopping cart is ridiculous. 

 

Carts are set up where items stay in the cart until they remove them. 

 

So it makes more sense if someone buy multiple items to process each one separately, pay separate transactions fees, separate each purchase and have to locate each one if there is an issue with the combined order. Do we ship each one separately? of course not, then why separate them. We must answer all questions regarding how a buyer is suppose to combine shipping. We must process refunds for overpaid shipping costs and pay additional final value fees on shipping because they were paid for separately.... the list goes on and on.

 

Even with free shipping it makes no sense to assume a buyer had no problem buying and paying for each purchase separately.

 

I`m sorry but I completely disagree with your reasoning as it`s just adding fuel to the fire, when we are trying to put it out, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

 

We need a solution to this problem asap, it is creating more work, headaches, fees, frustration for sellers and confusion for buyers. 

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"So it makes more sense if someone buy multiple items to process each one separately, pay separate transactions fees, separate each purchase and have to locate each one if there is an issue with the combined order"

 

???

 

Nobody is suggesting that!

 

You have been on eBay for more than ten years.  You know how the system worked before eBay came up with the shopping cart.  Buyers would buy as many items as they wanted and the seller would send a "combined invoice" with one shipping charge resulting in one payment.

 

A combined invoice could accommodate up to 40 listings (still does).  When buyers purchased items from more than 40 listings, two invoices would be needed.

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Agreed.

 

The cart function is a standard feature now for all eCommerce sites. Buyers are used to using the cart feature now. To revert back to the old days will cause just as much confusion as it does now. Even with the old system there were always problems for buyers from ebay.com. You had to clearly explain how to do it for them to make it work in most cases, not all, but most. 

 

The only way to solve all problems is to make a the cart system to work properly from anywhere. Keep the cart. Just fix it.

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@merritt-motorcycle-salvage wrote:

Even with the old system there were always problems for buyers from ebay.com. You had to clearly explain how to do it for them to make it work in most cases, not all, but most. 

 


Problems such as? Because personally, as a seller, I never had any buyers with problems before the cart was introduced.

And as a buyer, I never use the cart. I prefer the button "Commit to buy" that I now use on .ca only and bid on .com, because most sellers I buy from offer both listings. It is so much more easier that way!! At least it is for me.

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The cart is GARBAGE and needs to be taken away. I get 6-10 messages a week from buyers saying they cant buy my items because its telling them they aren't available etc and I direct them to ebay.ca to make the purchase so I can combine their order from them. And don't get me started on the amount of refunds I have to do each week because people pay for everything separate (which i get charged an additional 30cents per PayPal transaction).

 

Ebay was better before this cart **bleep**!

 

thanks

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