April 20th 2016 Weekly Session

Hello everyone,

 

A bit of a late start today. Please go ahead and start posting, I'll be around on & off until tomorrow.

 

Open issues:

  • Odd missing gallery picture in search results
  • Errors when uploading more than one tracking number at a time (repeated, erroneous numbers saved)
  • Sold items going into Unsold container
  • Selling limits live items count discrepancy

Updates:

  • Seller marketing emails issues - Selling team asigned someone to this, waiting on news.
  • Wrong tax rates applied to PayPal labels - I have asked PayPal and Pitney Bowes for an update
  • Missing Tracked Packet destinations -I have asked PayPal and Pitney Bowes for an update
  • Combined shipping offers not shown to international buyers - under investigation with shipping team
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April 20th 2016 Weekly Session

Hello musicyouneed,


@musicyouneed wrote:

1.  You were going to check when they were going to have economy shipping for the US and international on the listings for .ca.  We have been asking for this for months.  It is available on .com, why not on .ca?

 


I don't have a date for this yet. Sorry for the inconvenience. There are things we have been asking for internally for years and that we are still waiting for. Most things usually come in time, this is one of them.


@musicyouneed wrote:

2.  So far, I have made 26 sales for April on ebay, I should have way more.  

 

11 sold from 400 were listed on .com and they all sold to US buyers.  All US buyers, no Cdn or international.

 

15 sold from 620 were sold off .ca and they were listed on .ca in Cdn $.  10 were sold to CDN buyers, 2 were international and 3 were to the USA.  In this period holding to my averages, I should have at least 18 sales to the USA from .ca not a measly 3.

 

Now selling on .ca, I have reduced my prices and shipping cost, so that is why I have so many Cdn buyers.  

 

Looking at last April 2015, I listed solely on .ca US $.  I had 689 listed and I sold 55 CD's in April 2015.  30 were to US buyers and 15 were to Canadian buyers and 10 were international.  For that month, 55% were sold to US buyers.  Every month is different, but the point is that the majority of my CD sales are to US buyers.  

 

I am not complaining about the Canadian sales, they are fine, I am complaining about the US sales on the listings with the Canadian $.

 

I know from my personal experience that when something I want shows me English pounds or Australian $, I press back. 

 

Conclusion, In my field, CDN $ for US buyers doesn't work. If I want to sell to the US, my largest market, I will have to list in US $. I am giving Cdn $ a try.  We will see after a few months.  

 

What I would like to see is some kind of EBAY  promotion/explanation to US buyers that buying from Canada in Canadian dollars is not something to be afraid of.   If I don't sell and make money ebay doesn't either. 


Above all, comparing your 2015 sales to your 2016 sales, especially recorded music, is not a fair comparison. music sales have been declining worldwide, even digital formats are suffering. There are plenty of reports and analysis available about these trends. I hate to admit it, for I am myself a die hard music lover, but that along could account for the decline in your sales. With that said, let me address your concerns nonetheless.

 

We have overwhelming proof that US buyers are not bothered by foreign currencies. We can clearly see in our aggregate data that a good price is way more important to buyers than what currency the item they want is listed in. I can say this without the shadow of a doubt. If you're worried about the balance of US buyers vs CA buyers you get on your CAD listings, I would look at other factors. For example, are the shipping services you offer to Canadians more attractive than what you offer to US buyers?

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April 20th 2016 Weekly Session


raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@ypdc_dennis wrote:

 

Got my 1st late mark for items purchased on Easter Good Friday.

Handling time of 2 business days. Mailed the next business day Tuesday March 28

 

(1) Why does the Your late shipment report have the indicator: Transactions that weren't shipped on time -- when the report is dealing with items that supposedly arrived late.

 

This is something that needs to be fixed.

Either a proper description or proper calculations. 


The on-time shipping metric primarily measures how fast a seller ships an item. Keep in mind that this metric was designed in a context where sellers are expected to use tracking. It works like this:
  1. If the item gets an acceptance scan within the seller's handling time, the shipment is considered on time and we look no further.
  2. If there was no acceptance scan or if the acceptance scan was late, we look for a delivery scan within the estimated delivery date. If we get that delivery scan on time, we look no further.
  3. If there was no delivery scan or if the delivery scan was late, we ask the buyer whether the item arrived by the latest estimated delivery date.

In more than half of all permutations, a late shipment means that the seller shipped the item late. This is why the wording on your seller dashboard says that. The site isn't dynamic enough to adjust its wording to match the real reason why late shipments are recorded.


False positives are NOT a desirable FEATURE.

 

Request that the wording be changed to a more correct: "Transactions that weren't shipped in time"

 

I shipped this order ON time, but the order might not have arrived IN time to meet the eBay time estimates.

 

 

 

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@rainbow71113 wrote:

Hi again Raphael,

oh thank goodness...currently sell similar doesn't work because of changing the currency...

 

also, do you know if the migration tool is going to retain our watchers?  or at least show them a relisted hyperlink in the watched fields


Sell Similar should allow you to change the currency on your new listing. Have you been having issues with that?

 

The new listings created via the tool, just like new listings created on the site, will not retain watchers or show a link to the old listing. Only actual Relists do that, which isn't what we are doing with the tool.

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whenever I call to get a defect removed they always point out that the feedback is glowing..."fast shipping, great service, highly recommended" etc  so I think the policy should reflect that...if the buyer leaves fantastic feedback but the item arrived late, usually by one or two days we should be able to get that defect removed-obviously the BUYER thought we shipped fast enough.    But you are right, they used to have 2 discounts for sellers, then they removed one to just the power/top seller and they slowly are getting rid of those sellers discounts as well.  If they just removed the discounts there would be an uproar, doing it this way makes us feel like we didn't measure up to receive it. 

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@ypdc_dennis wrote:

Next question:

Is there any way to change the shipping method (and time estimate) after the purchase is made? Particularly for combined shipping and for shipping upgrades.


You can only change the EDD recorded in the system before the buyer pays, by sending an updated invoice with the right shipping service. Handling time, as far as I know, cannot be changed after the fact.

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@dutchman48 wrote:

But then sellers would not get unwarranted defects which is Ebay's goal


I would be curious to hear how you imagine that would be something to benefit us in any way.

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April 20th 2016 Weekly Session

aha, I didn't know to do it that way, I've been ending them and relisting from scratch, just tried one and yes it does let me change the currency, thanks!!

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Shipping Part 3:

 

Got my 1st late mark for items purchased on Easter Good Friday.

Handling time of 2 business days. Mailed the next business day Tuesday March 28 to Australia.

 

Item 1
Canada Post International Letter-post
Monday, Apr 4 to Tuesday, Apr 12
4 to 10 business days

Item 2
Canada Post Light Packet International
Tuesday, Apr 5 to Thursday, Apr 14
5 to 12 business days

Based on past shipping experience for those methods I consider Australia to typically be 2-3 weeks (10-15 business days).

 

 

Next question:

How can I, as a seller, find out what shipping time estimates eBay is providing to potential buyers?
Finding out after I have made a sale is not very useful.

 

It would be nice FEATURE if eBay.ca had a spreadsheet of ship times for each of the available shipping services that sellers could consult. In particular for the non-tracked service choices.

 

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@ypdc_dennis wrote:

False positives are NOT a desirable FEATURE.

 

Request that the wording be changed to a more correct: "Transactions that weren't shipped in time"

 

I shipped this order ON time, but the order might not have arrived IN time to meet the eBay time estimates. 


A false positive would be to mark an item as not having been delivered on time when in fact, it was. This isn't what this is as we aren't disputing whether the buyer received the item before or after the estimated date. I'm sorry that you're unhappy with the words we put around the metric in your seller dashboard, but it wouldn't change the metric itself or how it is measured in any case.

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if you go into the order details in a sold listing some of them will have the estimated shipping arrival times.  If you do enough of them you will get an idea which countries get which estimates.  For instance, I've noticed we get a much longer time frame shipping to Russia now that we used to.  I've also extended my handling time to 3 days even though I ship daily and put light/small packet on 

US and international to get the extra day or two there as well, and I STILL get defects.

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@ypdc_dennis wrote:

Next question:

How can I, as a seller, find out what shipping time estimates eBay is providing to potential buyers?
Finding out after I have made a sale is not very useful.

 

It would be nice FEATURE if eBay.ca had a spreadsheet of ship times for each of the available shipping services that sellers could consult. In particular for the non-tracked service choices. 


Thank you for the suggestion, that's certainly something we can look into.

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Raphael,

is there any plans to change the wording on the end my listing reasons, we should be able to pick "changing currency" instead of error in listing etc, then maybe the watchers will get a head's up that the item has been relisted

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raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@ypdc_dennis wrote:

False positives are NOT a desirable FEATURE.

 

Request that the wording be changed to a more correct: "Transactions that weren't shipped in time"

 

I shipped this order ON time, but the order might not have arrived IN time to meet the eBay time estimates. 


A false positive would be to mark an item as not having been delivered on time when in fact, it was. This isn't what this is as we aren't disputing whether the buyer received the item before or after the estimated date. I'm sorry that you're unhappy with the words we put around the metric in your seller dashboard, but it wouldn't change the metric itself or how it is measured in any case.


My mistake -- eBay is creating a FALSE NEGATIVE not a false positive.

 

From your details I was mistaken in what eBay supposedly is measuring. I assumed it was whether the buyer received it in time (the only thing that I as a buyer would worry about), not some garbage metric about how quickly it was put in the mail.

 

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eBay should stop imitating Amazon. On Amazon they care about a how-quickly-shipped metric because that's when amazon collects the money from the buyer. eBay does NOT have that excuse.

 

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raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:

But then sellers would not get unwarranted defects which is Ebay's goal


I would be curious to hear how you imagine that would be something to benefit us in any way.


To have less sellers getting the 20% FVF discount and hence putting more money into Ebay's pocket is one very good way it will benefit Ebay!!

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@rainbow71113 wrote:

Raphael,

is there any plans to change the wording on the end my listing reasons, we should be able to pick "changing currency" instead of error in listing etc, then maybe the watchers will get a head's up that the item has been relisted


No plans to do this as the transition is temporary. Based on many reports I got from sellers who have started moving their inventory to CAD, I would say you don't have to worry too much about losing watchers/potential buyers. Many buyers have saved searches for the things they are looking for, and your new listings will show up there as they have the first time. 

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@dutchman48 wrote:

raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:

But then sellers would not get unwarranted defects which is Ebay's goal


I would be curious to hear how you imagine that would be something to benefit us in any way.


To have less sellers getting the 20% FVF discount and hence putting more money into Ebay's pocket is one very good way it will benefit Ebay!!


Your assessment is wrong. Top Rated sellers drive more sales revenue than it costs us to give them that 20% discount, otherwise why would we even offer the discount? It would be a really risky business move to expose ourselves to failure by offering a discount that makes us lose money. The Board of Directors and and investors would not appreciate such a practice. Besides, if we intentionally drove bad metrics onto sellers, how would be ensure to stop in time before they fall below standards and get blocked from selling altogether? That would be a very bad business practice and I guarantee we aren't doing that.

 

In fact, and I have stated this many times already,m the overall amount of TRS sellers has gone up significantly since we implemented the new Standards. By your logic, if it were true, we would be losing money. But it's not the case: more TRS sellers drives buyer confidence and that ultimately leads to many more purchases.

 

It is 100% true that eBay succeeds only if our sellers succeed.

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April 20th 2016 Weekly Session

good to know- thanks.

 

 

can you tell me why ebay encourages linking paypal to ebay "for faster payments/checkouts"  from what I can tell these buyers are the ones that can't purchase multiple items without paying right away and I'm constantly getting buyers asking me what to do  because they don't want to pay for the shipping for each item.   Apparently paypal can unlink them but it takes a few days for the changes to go through.  This doesn't seem to be an issue of .ca versus .com, they seem to know before even starting that they will have to pay for each item.  I've had one buyer purchase and pay for over 20 items and I  had to refund $86 in shipping overages.  Even variation listings where I put zero for the second item charges the buyer shipping for the second/third etc-now THIS might be a system error but it appears to treat each purchase as a separate transaction and doesn't recognize that it is the same buyer.

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raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:

raphael@ebay.com wrote:

@dutchman48 wrote:

But then sellers would not get unwarranted defects which is Ebay's goal


I would be curious to hear how you imagine that would be something to benefit us in any way.


To have less sellers getting the 20% FVF discount and hence putting more money into Ebay's pocket is one very good way it will benefit Ebay!!


Your assessment is wrong. Top Rated sellers drive more sales revenue than it costs us to give them that 20% discount, otherwise why would we even offer the discount? It would be a really risky business move to expose ourselves to failure by offering a discount that makes us lose money. The Board of Directors and and investors would not appreciate such a practice. Besides, if we intentionally drove bad metrics onto sellers, how would be ensure to stop in time before they fall below standards and get blocked from selling altogether? That would be a very bad business practice and I guarantee we aren't doing that.

 

In fact, and I have stated this many times already,m the overall amount of TRS sellers has gone up significantly since we implemented the new Standards. By your logic, if it were true, we would be losing money. But it's not the case: more TRS sellers drives buyer confidence and that ultimately leads to many more purchases.

 

It is 100% true that eBay succeeds only if our sellers succeed.


Then quit punishing us for things we have no control over and fix all the bugs, glitches and other issues and possibly we may believe you. Double talk accomplishes nothing.

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April 20th 2016 Weekly Session

Above all, comparing your 2015 sales to your 2016 sales, especially recorded music, is not a fair comparison. music sales have been declining worldwide, even digital formats are suffering. There are plenty of reports and analysis available about these trends. I hate to admit it, for I am myself a die hard music lover, but that along could account for the decline in your sales. With that said, let me address your concerns nonetheless.

 

That's true, music sales are declining. 

 

We have overwhelming proof that US buyers are not bothered by foreign currencies. We can clearly see in our aggregate data that a good price is way more important to buyers than what currency the item they want is listed in. I can say this without the shadow of a doubt. If you're worried about the balance of US buyers vs CA buyers you get on your CAD listings, I would look at other factors. For example, are the shipping services you offer to Canadians more attractive than what you offer to US buyers?

 

But why would I have 11 sales on .com to US buyers when I only have 400 listed.  And on .ca have only 3 sales to US buyers.  My shipping on .ca  for US is 3.50 on .com it is 3.86.  Overall I reduced all my prices when I converted from US to CDN $.

 

Sorry Raphael, but you will never convince me that US buyers will continue to buy in CDN $, maybe a few but overall no.

 

When you see most of the sellers on .ca moving over to .com, you will know why.

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Continuing the shipping theme:

 

Item 2
Canada Post Light Packet International to Australia
Tuesday, Apr 5 to Thursday, Apr 14

 

If eBay had properly used business days (Canada Post holidays) than the shipping range on that item would have been April 6 to April 15, and not late (checked with the buyer about actual April 15 delivery).

 

 

Question/Suggestion:

 

Is this going to be a problem going forward on eBay.ca with holiday issues?

 

Suggestion: Post an announcement at the start of each year listing what days will be treated as business holidays for eBay that year. This not just an eBay,ca specific problem -- the info should be available for all of the eBay sites.

 

That way sellers can make listing adjustments as needed.

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