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treasure-pot
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katiusciav
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...well i for one, am not 'excited' about this. sorry. i just don't like it. a few weeks back, i went and hopped on the u.k. site to check out the 'new' feedback system, and i'll tell you, i did a random check on lots of powersellers, and almost EVERY buyer left either a 4 or 3 or less for shipping costs/shipping time...now this will give future buyers even MORE motivation to try and say we're overcharging on shipping and pocketing it, after seeing canada's shipping rates, and after reading all the other buyer's feedback scores on shipping. it will probably just re-affirm their suspicions. this may mean i'll have to prelist the shipping charges, which is really difficult at times, as cp charges different rates for different states...i guess i could just quote the highest priced state and go from there then huh???? then my listing may get swiped though due to excessive shipping charges ?~?~?:|
oh well...we're just the little guys...that's all...not like no one asks our opinion..:|
Kat
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I have not heard or read anything positive about this from the test markets. It continually astonishes me that eBay not only does whatever it wants regardless of feedback from its users but actually lies about the 'response from members'.
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stittsville11
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I find it difficult to imagine that this new feedback system benefits anyone except troublemakers and scammers. So few buyers even bother to read listings or confirmation of shipping emails with order details and timelines, I cringe just thinking what kind of feedback will be left.

With fewer buyers and increased selling costs, this will just be another detriment to Canadian Seller Profitability.

The powers that be really have their finger on the pulse.
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bestshowtime
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I check a lot UK seller with new feedback system.
Just be honest with your customers and you will get best rate!!! Nothing more!!!:-):-):-)
I just don't understand why some power sellers are so worried about it so much?]:)
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Bestshowtime... you will find out when the new feedback system is functional in Canada & USA.
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katiusciav
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vitali--if you read through the threads, you will see lots of customers who are told BEFOREHAND about the shipping transit times, and yet, they still question where their items are before the time has lapsed, and some even open disputes!!!
i find that this category of 'scoring' sellers--something that is virtually beyond our control very insulting to sellers, and i think ebay knows that. and when i was reading how 'successful the new system was, and all the positive feedback received from sellers'...the only thing i kept thinking to myself was 'yea right'...well, i guess if the experimental sellers were asked, we should be asked too. i can't wait-but i better not hold my breath.
ebay is just trying to make itself as marketable to buyers as possible-and at who's expense? ours. maybe i should go write an email-that'll promote change..right? yup, deep breath...and hold..............................................

i'm already thinking that if i get an unfair score regarding shipping times, after clearing stating timelines, i'm going to leave a neutral..at least we're at the benefit of being able to leave feedback AFTER...well at least if you don't issue feedback first...

golly, i'm such a positive person!
Kat
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tea_past_times
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Has anyone ever seen the movie Groundhog Day. This thread is eerily familiar. So with that in mind, here's a post to consider:

Hello. Well I am not worried about the new feedback system. The reason for that is that I take simple precautions against my customers becoming unneccesarily upset:

1)On my ABOUT ME Page I have a SHOULD I BUY FROM TEA_PAST_TIMES Test, which tells all my buyers what to expect after they push the bid button. I encourage them there, not to bid, if they disagree with any of my points. You are welcome to visit my about me page to see what I mean. Believe me, spelling things out in advance sure helps save misunderstanding later.

2)I use Paypal Shipping Labels. When I do that, my customer gets an email from Paypal, letting the customer know the shipping label has been printed. When I select the shipping service, it give me an estimate of the number of business days it takes for delivery. In the space where I can leave a note for the buyer, I tell my American Customers to expect delivery in DOUBLE the amount of time paypal estimates, Because it has to come across an internatinal border.

3) I quote my customers(pricewise) for AIR PARCEL rates, However, I give them a Surface delivery estimate of delivery time. For example, I tell them it will take 11-21 business days surface, but charge them the AIR rate and then I mail it AIR. They sure are happy when they get it in 3 -5 days. SURPRISE!! Read our feedback about our super fast service!! LOL I have not gotten bad feedback because of slow delivery in 18 months.

4) I answer all emails from customers wanting to know the status of their delivery. Of course I have no clue where the parcel is, but you would be amazed at how effective Pretending to know can be. Send them back an email saying it just arrived at the sorting station in New Jersey, and will proceed to California in 2-5 days. LOL

5) Don't feel bad about bending information. We have to do something to make up for the disadvantage we are at when it comes to being a Canadian seller stuck using Canada post.

6) Buyers hate paying handling fees, so don't call it a handling fee, call it insurance. Americans are used to paying for that. Our insurance is included, but who needs to know. You get your handling fee, and everyone is happy. The customer is now insured to get good handling. As long as you state all your fees in the listing, no problem.

7) Basically, the best strategy, in a nutshell, is that every time Ebay comes up with something creative that makes it harder for you to turn a profit, you should put your thinking cap on and be creative, so that the buyers (those who pay no fees) are actually sharing some of the cost of Ebay. Which is only fair. OPINIONS???

8) My customers are getting their items within a week, I average 3.64 US per listing in (handling) costs, and my feedback is great, check out our feedback. I have no worries with the new system.
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stittsville11
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Pride cometh before a fall.
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katiusciav
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am i the only one who laughs my head off at phil's comments? i have snots flying all over my computer screen after reading his posts...
phil-how many times are you going to copy and paste that one? :^O-love number 3 man!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA
Kat
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Kat,


i'm already thinking that if i get an unfair score regarding shipping times, after clearing stating timelines, i'm going to leave a neutral..at least we're at the benefit of being able to leave feedback AFTER...well at least if you don't issue feedback first...


Part of the problem with this new system is that you will not know who rated you on shipping times. As I understand it, a buyer can give you a positive (showing their ID) but can then go into the detailed 'star' rating and anonymously rate you zero. You will not know who trashed you.

Some sellers on other boards have announced their intention not to participate in the feedback system at all.
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Oh, and my screen is, thankfully, snot-free.
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katiusciav
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ooooooooooh of course...anonymous...it just gets better and better doesn't it. my god, am i the only one that gets more and more peeved everytime i learn something new about this new feedback system? i'm just dreading it man. why can't i anonymously rate a buyer????
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRX-(
Kat
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tea_past_times
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If not your attitude
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tea_past_times
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Oh, and my screen is, thankfully, snot-free. ...

If not your attitude.
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tea_past_times
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Kat, wanna go out for beers sometime??
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tea_past_times
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And kleenex!!
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katiusciav
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..and depends undergarments...

If not your attitude

BE NICE
Kat
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BE NICE

Not likely.
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