01-27-2016 11:02 AM - edited 01-27-2016 12:21 PM
Hello everyone,
Welcome to our weekly session. I'll be around for most of the day.
Here are the issues I'm currently tracking:
Missing Tracked Packet destinations
Updates:
01-27-2016 01:38 PM
@musicyouneed wrote:
Hi Raphael,
I am having a hard time with this late shipment rate and am wondering what I can do?
My rate is 3.19% -- 3 of 94 transactions. I sold 272 CD's during that time period but I would say that only a small percentage 30 - 40% leave feedback.
At this rate, I'll be kicked off for sure or at least lose my TRS. Perfect feedback, no defects, 5 stars, but rating me on the postal system delivery/delays is just plain wrong
The late shipments were:
- Buyer in Sept who is also a seller bought a CD from me. He listed it for sale and then a couple of days later stated it was late shipment for me. Do I have proof, NO. It is too late now. I did call on this but it was useless to talk to CS.
- Buyer purchased a CD in Nov from me US address. I ship out the CD and it turns out he works in Kazakhstan in the US embassy and the mail was being forwarded to him. He gave me great feedback, shipping was fast all the way to Kazakhstan. When it asks did you get the CD by the date (for the US) he stated no. I called CS on this one too and they said they could do nothing about it.
- Buyer from a small town in Australia purchased a CD from me just before Christmas. Again, gave great feedback 5 stars all the way but answers No did you get the CD by this date. I checked the Australian postal service and it is 4 working days to get it from Melbourne to this small town.
I am at a loss as to what to do. Customer service is useless. I have had to explain myself to several people and spent hours on the phone. When I called in Sept, they didn't even know what I was talking about.
Ebays estimated delivery dates are totally out of whack with reality.
I would say almost all my shipments from Dec 18 to Jan 10 were delayed. There are a few that within Canada took over 3 weeks to get to their destination. I have no control once it leaves my hands. I sell CD's that mostly are under $10, so tracking is out of the question.
What I have found that although I am in a large urban area, North Vancouver, most of my CD sales are to small communities where I assume they do not have any access to CD stores. I know that this adds days on to the shipping. If it was going from Vancouver to Toronto, it's faster than sending it to Armstrong Ontario.
I have increased my handling time to 2 days. (I ship the same day or next day) and have put the shipping as economy so it gives me a few more days. I had to amend over 1,000 listings, I shouldn't have to do this.
On the Canada Post website:
Delivery Standards at a Glance
Delivery standards are estimates of how long it will take for the mail to be delivered. These delivery standards are not guaranteed.
What can I do? Whenever I have called CS, they stated that I created a bad buyer experience but not delivering it on time,
Hi musicyouneed,
Thanks for the detailed report. I have shared it with the Standards team as I have your previous one.
Unfortunately I don't have a turn key solution for you. Under the current situation and given the limitations of the policy for your specific business model, you are already doing what I could best advise you to do: adjust your handling time to manage the estimated delivery date. If you need to increase to more than 2 days handling, I would recommend you do it.
01-27-2016 02:06 PM
@pocomocomputing wrote:
Shipping time estimates - discrepancy
Did you get my email of Jan 14, 2016 on delivery times estimates in a listing Shipping and Payments tab shown to a buyer for their country and what is shown to a buyer in order details after a sale? Order details shows shorter estimates in items to the UK apparently, perhaps elsewhere. What is the buyer seeing when evaluating the feedback question "Did the item arrive before date?"
Sellers are trying to maximize delivery time estimates when choosing a shipping option and padding it with a longer handling time to give more time for the item to arrive to minimize defects. If eBay is asking the buyer in the feedback question a shorter time based on what we see in the order details, then eBay is doing something very wrong.
Read this topic
http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Ebay-s-estimated-delivery-time/m-p/323994
Hi pocomo,
It seems the system counted only one of two weekends as business days. From my calculations the latest delivery date should have been Jan 27 (Jan 12 + 1 day handling + 10 business days transit (including 4 weekend days) = Jan 27). I'll take this to the shipping team immediately. Thanks for reporting again.
01-27-2016 02:13 PM - edited 01-27-2016 02:14 PM
Generic shipping options on eBay.ca.
For International shipping, we have only Standard Int'l Shipping and Expedited Int'l Shipping. No Economy Int'l shipping. eBay.com does. Why?
Someone posted to use Economy Int'l shipping on ebay.ca to get longer delivery time estimates and we all found out it does not exist on eBay.ca, only on eBay.com.
01-27-2016 02:20 PM
Yes, it exists on ebay.com as I use it all the time.
Ebay - why should sellers have to jump through hoops to amend 1000 listings to change the handling times and extend and change the shipping method. Doesn't this tell ebay that the current shipping estimates are wrong and should not be there to measure a sellers performance.
01-27-2016 02:21 PM - edited 01-27-2016 02:22 PM
OK - A difficult question for a change.
Take a look at http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Canadian-PowerSellers-Discussion/CPC-charging-incorrect-HST-GST/m-p/3243...
Hopefully you can log on the PowerSeller board.
Basically this seller, based in BC, seems to be charged 15% HST to ON when buying postage through eBay and 17% HST to NS. Both rates are 2% more than they should be.
Can you make sense of the problem.
I understand Pitney Bowes administers the system for you but, at the end of the day, it is eBay's responsibility to see to it that the right tax amount is charged to your sellers.
When I check the Canada Post website, they always charge the correct rate of tax for each province (shipper and recipient) based on the type of service requested. So the problem does not appear to be Canada Post.
01-27-2016 02:38 PM - edited 01-27-2016 02:41 PM
Drop-shipping using eBay.ca Canada does not seem to be a good idea as far as delivery time estimates are concerned.
In this topic, a new seller asked some questions and it turns out that drop-shipping from China to Canada and the USA is not a good fit on ebay.ca site. Delivery times are 4 to 6 weeks from China to Canada and the USA according to the seller.
The seller had his home town in Quebec as the shipping location and has corrected it.
The seller should use the generic shipping options since Canad Post options are for Canada Post shipping.
For Domestic shipping, the seller can use
Economy shipping from outside Canada (16 to 20 business days)
and have to use a handling time of 10 days to get the 4 to 6 weeks they need.
For International shipping, no easy option as far as I can tell.
The only option is Standard Int'l Shipping since there is no Economy Int'l Shipping. If I use Standard Int'l Shipping, I get different delivery time estimates for countries entered in the Shipping& Payments calculator. These range from a short 4 to 6 days to 15 days. If these dates are for me using a location in Canada, what happens to a seller using china as a location. Do they get a generic message saying delivery time estimates varies.
Should there not be a generic Standard Int'l Shipping from outside Canada. Or more correctly, Economy Int'l Shipping from outside Canada.
eBay.com USA has these options I believe as well as specific generic shipping option from China/Hong Kong/Taiwan to use.
I know eBay.ca is small and the number of sellers having items shipped from China is small. LOL, if you added the above options, maybe more sellers from Asia would list on eBay.ca giving you more business. As it stands now, eBay.ca is not attractive to sell on when long delivery time estimates are needed.
As for the Canadian seller in the topic above, I can only conclude that they should list on eBay.com which has many shipping options to handle their needs and avoid defects on shipping time. Because they probably buy in US$, listing on eBay.com in US$ would probably be a better fit too.
01-27-2016 02:46 PM
Good morning Raphael,
This is the first time I have ever posted in the board hours (because normally I'd be at work) so my apologies if my question has been previously answered.
Like musicyouneed, I'm concerned re: the late shipment rate on seller dashboard.
I felt that it's unfair that buyers are rating us on slow delivery when I have NO control over how fast mail moves in other countries (3 from European countries and 1 from USA), and I think eBay should give sellers the option to input WHAT the realistic delivery estimates are. I already have 5 days handling time set and I think that sounds very long already, but sometimes I see delivery estimates on the order details that are pretty short despite the long handling time and it seems to vary from country to country. I'm not sure if the long handling time stated turns away buyers because they might think I take forever to ship their books and then choose to buy from someone else who might ship "faster". I normally ship within 2-3 days. No tracking used because they are inexpensive items.
What is even more wrong about this "late delivery" system is that buyers are asked to rate the delivery time *honestly* (against a criteria that seller has no control over) without knowing the negative impact it can have on sellers. One of my buyers left a 5 stars positive and even stated fast delivery in the feedback, but answered no to the late delivery question. Who could tell whether it's because the buyer misunderstood the question, or because the buyer felt it was fast enough but answered no just because it did show up slightly after eBay's displayed (unrealistic) delivery estimate?
Personally, I have had parcels that took over 6 weeks to get to me (shipped air, no tracking), and the notations on the parcel showed that it reached Canada, got bounced back to the original country for no apparent reason, then it was sent to Canada again and reached me on its second trip. The seller shipped within 72 hours (as per date stamp on the parcel) so obviously it's not the seller's fault the parcel bounced around the globe for no reason. I wouldn't ding the seller for postal error (if anything I was happy that the packaging was so secure that the item still came in like brand new after the long haul), so why are we (sellers) getting dinged over something we have no control over? It's not like I can phone every single postal system and tell them "Hey I'm mailing something to somebody in your area, please don't bounce it around the globe / please delivery it by a certain date"??
Yes, I think we should be rated on how fast we got the parcel into the mail system as that's something we DO have control over. I don't think we should be rated on how fast somebody else's work is as we have NO control over that. I think this late shipment criteria is flawed and should not be used against our seller's performance evaluation. It seems the only workaround right now is to extend our handling time. I don't think it sounds reasonable to set my handling time to something like 10 or even 20 days just to stretch eBay's delivery estimate.
Which leads to my next question... on my seller dashboard it implies that to remain "Top Rated" I can only have 5 or less late shipments. So does it mean if I get 6 late shipments, I'll lose my current TRS despite I have enough sale volume and no unresolved cases?
Thank you for your attention in this matter.
01-27-2016 02:49 PM
Hello Raphael,
May be it is possible to remove ADD TO CART option from listings on eBay.ca until the problem is fixed?
Thank you
01-27-2016 03:02 PM
@rose-dee wrote:
raphael@ebay.com wrote:Here is the reply I got regarding the gallery image:
The listing example you provided was originally created in 2012. When listings are so long lived it often occurs that the original gallery image used becomes no longer available. Often the simple solution is to revise the listing, remove the photo that was previously the gallery image, and then re-upload the photo and choose the option to display it as the gallery image. Alternatively the seller can opt to use another photo as the gallery image. This revision should prompt a refresh of the gallery image URL which can take up to 24 hours.
LOL. Tells you how bad things have been sales-wise in my neck of the woods. OK, thanks Raphael, I'll give this a try (hopefully I still have the original image). Actually, I think I'll try the second option first to see if that works.
Perhaps part of the reason for your slow sales is that some of your listings have been running for more than a year. IMO that does make a big difference in search but perhaps Raphael could tell us if that really is a factor or not.
01-27-2016 03:03 PM
raphael@ebay.com wrote:
@pocomocomputing wrote:Shipping time estimates - discrepancy
Did you get my email of Jan 14, 2016 on delivery times estimates in a listing Shipping and Payments tab shown to a buyer for their country and what is shown to a buyer in order details after a sale? Order details shows shorter estimates in items to the UK apparently, perhaps elsewhere. What is the buyer seeing when evaluating the feedback question "Did the item arrive before date?"
Sellers are trying to maximize delivery time estimates when choosing a shipping option and padding it with a longer handling time to give more time for the item to arrive to minimize defects. If eBay is asking the buyer in the feedback question a shorter time based on what we see in the order details, then eBay is doing something very wrong.
Read this topic
http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Ebay-s-estimated-delivery-time/m-p/323994
Hi pocomo,
It seems the system counted only one of two weekends as business days. From my calculations the latest delivery date should have been Jan 27 (Jan 12 + 1 day handling + 10 business days transit (including 4 weekend days) = Jan 27). I'll take this to the shipping team immediately. Thanks for reporting again.
The wording above seems incorrect. Did you mean non-business days?
Now the big question. Dis this miscalculation affect the question asked to buyers in the feedback? Showing a shorter maximum date in the question means a seller will be given a defect? This needs to be looked at in detail where the issues reaches out to in the system.
I am thinking specifically of musicyouneed posts about defects they received. Was he unfairly given defects on incorrect dates in the feedback questions? If he lost a couple of weekends as business days, totally not fair. You should use his issues as examples to make sure his buyers were shown the correct dates in the buyers questions. In any event, the buyers might have been prejudiced in their short delivery estimates shown in the order details. The wrong dates in Order Details would be enough in my my opinion to throw all his defects out even if shown in Order Details alone.
PS Please add the Order Details issue above to the list of issues you have in your opening post in each weekly session so it can be monitored.
01-27-2016 03:09 PM
@pocomocomputing wrote:
Generic shipping options on eBay.ca.
For International shipping, we have only Standard Int'l Shipping and Expedited Int'l Shipping. No Economy Int'l shipping. eBay.com does. Why?
Someone posted to use Economy Int'l shipping on ebay.ca to get longer delivery time estimates and we all found out it does not exist on eBay.ca, only on eBay.com.
Not sure why this is this way. I'll see if we can add economy to the lot.
01-27-2016 03:16 PM
@musicyouneed wrote:
Yes, it exists on ebay.com as I use it all the time.
Ebay - why should sellers have to jump through hoops to amend 1000 listings to change the handling times and extend and change the shipping method. Doesn't this tell ebay that the current shipping estimates are wrong and should not be there to measure a sellers performance.
It happens from time to time that some sellers have to revise their listing to adapt to changes in eBay policy. It has even happened that all sellers had to do that. In this case, I'm sorry you ended up in the wrong group.
Regarding the shipping estimates, if you read previous weeks/months weekly sessions you'll see me comment on that several times. In a nutshell we have a standing project to make them more accurate but it requires a fair amount of code which we aren't sure if/when we can get the necessary resources assigned yet. We should know more soon, hopefully.
Lastly, as I mentioned last week the new standards rules are global. As much as we would have preferred to create a set of rules that are specific to the Canadian shipping reality, the current structure of standards program doesn't allow for this. There is no Canadian-specific Standards program and we can't force Canadian-specific rules on the Global program.
01-27-2016 03:16 PM - edited 01-27-2016 03:19 PM
@pjcdn2005 wrote:
@rose-dee wrote:
raphael@ebay.com wrote:Here is the reply I got regarding the gallery image:
The listing example you provided was originally created in 2012. When listings are so long lived it often occurs that the original gallery image used becomes no longer available. Often the simple solution is to revise the listing, remove the photo that was previously the gallery image, and then re-upload the photo and choose the option to display it as the gallery image. Alternatively the seller can opt to use another photo as the gallery image. This revision should prompt a refresh of the gallery image URL which can take up to 24 hours.
LOL. Tells you how bad things have been sales-wise in my neck of the woods. OK, thanks Raphael, I'll give this a try (hopefully I still have the original image). Actually, I think I'll try the second option first to see if that works.
Perhaps part of the reason for your slow sales is that some of your listings have been running for more than a year. IMO that does make a big difference in search but perhaps Raphael could tell us if that really is a factor or not.
If I remember correctly, eBay has an eBay note shown on GTC listing that are more than 16 months old with no sales. A good hint to to end and relist using sell similar to be a fresh listing. Or drop or increase the price, or use best offer or send to an auction a few times, or do a makeover with fresh pictures, a new title, a reworded description, use free shipping, whatever to shake it up a bit, even change ebay sites from ca to com or vice versa.
At one time eBay.co.uk was going to end GTC listings after 16 months 2-3 years back and they dropped that. Then I think I saw in a more recent UK update that they were going add a surcharge fee on listing older than 16 months. I wonder what happened to this on the UK. They seemed to be very aggressive on old listings.
I have suggested in the past that GTC listings should have an optional end date. List as GTC for a number of months, say 6 or 9 or 12 months then end with a note saying it was ended automatically. This would be great for one of a kind items. I know if you use ebay Selling Manager you can have a listing relist continuously until it sells but I would prefer that it just list a set number of times.
01-27-2016 03:20 PM
@pierrelebel wrote:
OK - A difficult question for a change.
Take a look at http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Canadian-PowerSellers-Discussion/CPC-charging-incorrect-HST-GST/m-p/3243...
Hopefully you can log on the PowerSeller board.
Basically this seller, based in BC, seems to be charged 15% HST to ON when buying postage through eBay and 17% HST to NS. Both rates are 2% more than they should be.
Can you make sense of the problem.
I understand Pitney Bowes administers the system for you but, at the end of the day, it is eBay's responsibility to see to it that the right tax amount is charged to your sellers.
When I check the Canada Post website, they always charge the correct rate of tax for each province (shipper and recipient) based on the type of service requested. So the problem does not appear to be Canada Post.
This is interesting to say the least.
I'll alert my contacts at PB, PayPal and Canada Post. I would argue though that PayPal being the payment handler in this situation, they are the ones responsible for applying tax appropriately.
01-27-2016 03:23 PM
raphael@ebay.com wrote:
@pocomocomputing wrote:Generic shipping options on eBay.ca.
For International shipping, we have only Standard Int'l Shipping and Expedited Int'l Shipping. No Economy Int'l shipping. eBay.com does. Why?
Someone posted to use Economy Int'l shipping on ebay.ca to get longer delivery time estimates and we all found out it does not exist on eBay.ca, only on eBay.com.
Not sure why this is this way. I'll see if we can add economy to the lot.
While you are doing this, should there be Economy Int'l Shipping from outside Canada, Standard Int'l Shipping from outside Canada, and Expedited Int'l Shipping from outside Canada like the USA.
I do not see much need for this for most Canadian sellers other than the example I brought up about the drop-shipper from Quebec.
01-27-2016 03:26 PM
Another shipping question. An old one.
Domestic shipping. Why is there no Local Pickup option when using calculated shipping? You can only specify Local Pickup on Flat Rate Shipping.
How does a seller handle a sale on a listing that has calculated shipping and the item is sold and picked up locally so as to not pay shipping FVFs?
01-27-2016 03:27 PM
Hello, just a quick comment from me this week as my children are running amok at the moment. The issue with missing CANADA POST TRACKED PACKET destinations is now resolved. All are included on eBay in calculated shipping where they need to be.
PayPal Shipping, however, is a different matter. Most of the newer 31+ destinations are nowhere to be found. I have called there to create a ticket for investigation into the matter, I would encourage other Canadian eBay sellers to do same. It's something Pitney Bowes will have to look into.
Thanks.
Maureen
01-27-2016 03:32 PM
Poco, I do this all the time. The buyer has to use BIN and not pay. Then you invoice them. The danger in that is they may use PayPal to submit payment even if you specify cash. It doesn't work with free flate rate. Unless you mean the SYI formitself? I agree its counterproductive to not be available as a shipping option as opposed to payment option only. People often search by city of residence to see what they can find locally, fast.
01-27-2016 03:34 PM
What happened to the question I asked previously if Ebay will refund the seller for money sent to a buyer upfront for return shipping on an international sale and the buyer does not return the item and keeps the sellers return shipping money.
A scam by an international buyer.
I would like a yes or no answer for a change! And have it put in policy either way!
And not to be rude, I am getting very tired of no answers to questions.
01-27-2016 03:39 PM
raphael@ebay.com wrote:
@pocomocomputing wrote:Shipping time estimates - discrepancy
Did you get my email of Jan 14, 2016 on delivery times estimates in a listing Shipping and Payments tab shown to a buyer for their country and what is shown to a buyer in order details after a sale? Order details shows shorter estimates in items to the UK apparently, perhaps elsewhere. What is the buyer seeing when evaluating the feedback question "Did the item arrive before date?"
Sellers are trying to maximize delivery time estimates when choosing a shipping option and padding it with a longer handling time to give more time for the item to arrive to minimize defects. If eBay is asking the buyer in the feedback question a shorter time based on what we see in the order details, then eBay is doing something very wrong.
Read this topic
http://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Ebay-s-estimated-delivery-time/m-p/323994
Hi pocomo,
It seems the system counted only one of two weekends as business days. From my calculations the latest delivery date should have been Jan 27 (Jan 12 + 1 day handling + 10 business days transit (including 4 weekend days) = Jan 27). I'll take this to the shipping team immediately. Thanks for reporting again.
A couple of related comments
1. The UK delivery dates do seem to be out to lunch. I sold item 351576918670 which was listed on .com to a buyer in the UK on Dec 3rd which was a Thursday. If I mailed it on Friday, the first business day would be Monday Dec 7th and the estimated delivery date on the order details page was Dec 9 - 15th. I have 1 day handling time and the eta on the listing itself shows 5 - 10 business days which was not reflected in the order details.
Right now any of my listings done on .com are showing a delivery date of feb 3 - 11th on the listing but that is only 4 business days which doesn't seem realistic. But it is even worse on .ca as the listings done on that site using standard int'l shipping are showing an eta of Feb 2 - 10th!
(ex. item 272102653071)
2. The estimated delivery time on the order details hasn't been taking into account the 1 day handling time for listings originating on .com. I sold 3 items today to the U.S. The shipping shows standard shipping from outside of the U.S. which on the syi form states that option has 5 - 10 business days. The order details on those items all show an eta of Feb 3 - 11. That is just 4 - 9 business days.