Ontario gives the Taxpayer the Shaft: Yet Again !

OTTAWA - Ontario's liquor board has sweetened an already sweet deal for the federal government and foreign diplomats as it chops the prices they pay for beer, wine and booze almost in half.

Late last month, the Liquor Control Board of Ontario began offering its products to federal departments and agencies at a 49 per cent discount from the retail price that everyone else pays.

The cut rate on alcoholic beverages is also available to foreign embassies, high commissions, consulates and trade missions, most of whom are located in the Ottawa area, within the LCBO's jurisdiction.

And the favoured buyers will be exempt from an LCBO policy dating from 2001 that sets minimum prices for products, under its "social responsibility" mandate.

The new pricing, approved by the board of directors on April 25 this year, replaces an older, more complex discount formula that was based on the individual cost of products.

The now-uniform 49 per cent discount is applied to the basic retail price, but before HST.

A case of imported wine, which currently costs consumers $203.18, is now priced at $104.80 for this special group, including HST and bottle deposit. Under the old discount, embassies and others had paid $131.27 — for an extra savings of $26.47.

Imported non-U.S. beer is similarly cheaper, at $28.68 a case versus $42.56 under the old discount. Ontarians currently pay full price at $53.93.

Ontario wine has also become cheaper, though imported booze will go up in price, to $175.63 a case from $143.91, compared with the $342.07 everyone else pays.

The federal government and diplomats can take advantage of the cheaper prices only by placing orders through the agency's private ordering department, rather than purchasing directly at retail outlets.

LCBO spokeswoman Heather MacGregor said the discount policy was changed as the agency moved to an automated sales system from a manual version previously used for private orders.

"This was an internal recommendation to improve systems controls, sales reporting and monitoring of embassy sales," she said in an email.

"A new, more simplified pricing formula, based on a discount from the retail price, had to be developed because the old pricing formula could not be accommodated with the LCBO's existing POS (point-of-sale) system."

The agency sells about 20,000 cases a year under these deep-discount rules, she added, or less than $1 million in sales annually.

"More than 90 per cent of the products ordered are imports," MacGregor added.

The agency was not able to cite the historic value of sales to the federal government, but said there were none in 2012-2013, the year before the new discount pricing began.

The Canadian Press obtained details of the discount policy change under Ontario's freedom-of-information law.

The LCBO also allows deep discounts on sacramental wine purchased by bona fide religious groups.

Federal policy imposes limits on the purchase of alcoholic beverages with taxpayer dollars, forbidding such hospitality at events attended only by public servants, for example.

And hospitality events at which alcoholic beverages will be served, such as for visiting diplomats, must be pre-approved by ministers or senior officials.

The Bank of Canada in May this year spent $30,000 on several farewell bashes for outgoing governor Mark Carney, which included fine wines.

Last month, an economist at the University of Waterloo released a study suggesting LCBO retail prices would be reduced if the province allowed more competition from private operators.

And in a 2011, Ontario's auditor said the price of alcohol is too high in the province, and that LCBO revenues were not being maximized.

The agency said last month it generated record sales in 2011-12, the last year for which figures are available, providing $1.7 billion for the Ontario treasury

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Become a member of parliament and you won't have anything to cry about.

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I went into the LCBO, today, and said I was the ambassador from Lower Slobovia and I wanted my discount.

For some reason, they thought it was funny.  Then they lost their sense of humor and had the security guard show me to the door. 

Go figure!

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Ontario gives the Taxpayer the Shaft: Yet Again !

They knew you were giving them a bogus embassy. It's Upper Slobovia.

 

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"Ontario gives the Taxpayer the Shaft: Yet Again !" How are taxpayers being given the shaft exactly? Your title is very misleading as you clearly do not understand this situation. Foreign diplomats by virtue of bilateral tax agreements are able to claim back taxes paid. By offering the lower rates to the diplomats, the LCBO is eliminating the bureaucratic paperwork to get those taxes refunded. Same for government offices offering official functions that provide booze. So how exactly is this shafting the taxpayer??
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Ontario gives the Taxpayer the Shaft: Yet Again !

Foreign diplomats by virtue of bilateral tax agreements are able to claim back taxes paid. Same for government offices offering official functions that provide booze.

 

That is the point.  Why are these people entitled to tax free booze?  Canadians pay some of the highest liquor and beer taxes in the world.  So, giving a tax break to these diplomats and governmanet depts. (who are paying out of someone elses pocket in the first place) a tax break is ludicrous - and is shafting the rest of us. 

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