The other side of the story :(

[nan*55]

http://www.panow.com/node/285372#.UPRH2AK27LM.facebook

[grannio204]

"It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are."

Nice. I think the same about my cat, who thinks she's a dog!

[pigdog47]

I feel the same way about turkeys and turtles!

[stevephinn2012]

And this True song. It may have happened in the US but I know a Native man in Canada who the same thing happened to him after having fought for Canada in WW2 and the Korean war. When he returned home he found his land had been leveled for a military training base. His parents graves had been dug to make training fox holes. He was not even allowed on the base to visit his parents site....all he could do was look through a fence at the road. He

so was this the police officer,lawyer,nurse or PSW worker? can we have a name please as you have stated that anonymous  people are just made up stories not to be believed!

[valve37]

I feel the same way about turkeys and turtles!

Yeah but you get it by eating their hearts!

[prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil]

can we have a name please

When’s the last time you visited the optometrist mikey?

Right after the long copy and paste you did I put the man’s name…..and his age.

Need a link to help you …… http://www.thestar.com/news/obituary/atog/article/108097--clifford-george-85-elder-kept-his-sense-of...

I could tell you more as well. Cliff and I had many conversations at the Rez.

[pigdog47]

 "....Hayes was never comfortable with his new-found fame, however, and after his honorable discharge from the Marine Corps he descended into alcoholism. He died of exposure and alcohol poisoning on January 24, 1955 after a night of drinking..."

That is too bad.  Every deceased veteran has story and life experience worth hearing, IMO.  Does it matter if they are Native or non-native?  A life lived is a life lived   I had an uncle who also descended into alcoholism after serving in the Canadian military back in the '50s.  Never saw "action" or combat, but my mom told me he had witnessed one off his buddies get his head blown off in a training exercise, and the trauma of seeing that event slowly destroyed him.  PTSD went untreated back in the day.

 No famous singer ever wrote a song about my uncle, and apart from memories of him carried in the minds of his Atwood surviving sons, nothing exists to remind the world that he existed other than to plaque in a Montreal cemetery. 

[hereiam87]

I am an Proud Aboriginal,

to some we owe our thanks,

to others we owe understanding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vazCBv6xuew

A spokesman for the 'occupiers' of

Alcatraz

]:)

[prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil]

You don’t get it do you. Maybe others do. It’s not what happened in the war….it was how Ira Hayes was treated because he was a Native.

You must have missed the words …”till the white man stole their water rights and the sparkling water stopped”……”Ira’s folks were hungry and their land grew crops of weeds” (because the water was taken away)……That is what he came back to after fighting for the country.

[prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil]

Clifford George and his two older brothers, all of whom volunteered to fight overseas, were granted permission to visit the graveyard at the military base where their mothers and others from the community were buried.

That was later mikey, not the day that Clifford went there. It was still a military base and then a cadet training base until September 4, 1995 when the Natives retook 'their' land and still have it.

Check out that message. 

[pigdog47]

After the war, Hayes was arrested 52 times for public drunkenness.[15] Referring to his alcoholism, he once said: "I was sick. I guess I was about to crack up thinking about all my good bu...White House, like me."[14]

[pigdog47]

Darn Wikipedia seems to view Ira's eventual demise was a consequence of  his combat experience and mental anguish.  Obviously somebody needs to amend the Wiki entry to incorporate a songwriter's slant on things.  Yeah that's the ticket.

Good grief.  If you got to use historical figures as props in a narrative, please don't take artistic liberties of pretending to know what went on in their minds.

[prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil]

Wouldn't be the first thing and won't be the last that Wikipedia...and just for the record....it was not Wikipedia who said that he died due to combat experience and it was not a doctor or psychologist  ....it was Clint Eastwood..... who talks to chairs.

[almond_t]

You're on a roll, Nan.  Once again, thank you for posting.

Very enlightening, and puts words and weight behind a lot of the rumbling of those that don't have me enough power to make themselves be heard over the din of a bunch of arrogant noisemakers.

[puckstopshere]

Lessons from Ipperwash need to be applied now, expert says

Police services are right to ask for direction from the Ontario government on how to handle First Nations blockades and protests, a legal expert says.

Kent Roach, a law professor at the University of Toronto, says a Jan. 9 letter from the president of the Ontario Association of Chiefs of Police to Community Safety Minister Madeleine Meilleur highlights a historic problem.

“This is a perennial problem with the relationship between police and government,” Roach said. “It’s not always clear who is in charge.”

Roach, who was a member of the Ipperwash Inquiry’s Research Advisory Committee, said that conflict, which resulted in the death of Native protester Dudley George, colours police decisions involving First Nations protests.

http://www.lfpress.com/2013/01/15/lessons-from-ipperwash-need-to-be-applied-now-expert-says

Personally, I think when the poop hits the fan, Harper will call in the army.  After all, they are between wars.  Might as well make them useful.

[puckstopshere]

Idle No More: Aboriginal leaders, grassroots divided on use of blockades to pressure feds

On the eve of a national day of action, aboriginal leaders and grassroots First Nations remain divided on the use of civil disobedience and economic blockades to bring attention to plights of their people.

Some chiefs, who openly oppose Assembly of First Nations National Chief Shawn Atleo, have been leading the charge to roll out blockades Wednesday in provinces including Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario.

These leaders, including Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence, wanted Atleo and other aboriginal leaders to boycott a Friday meeting with Prime Minister Stephen Harper because Gov. Gen. David Johnston was absent.

http://www.lfpress.com/2013/01/15/idle-no-more-aboriginal-leaders-grassroots-divided-on-use-of-block...

[prior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil]

Harper will call in the army. After all, they are between wars. Might as well make them useful.

Then Harper will have blood on his hands and the world will see what Canada has become in the Harper reign. Natives from the US will be here in bus loads. All Natives across Canada will become one like never before. Nations will compare Canada to China and Syria. England will be ashamed of our Nation. Go for it Harper. Native people are not afraid ….they weren’t in Oka, or Ipperwash, or Caledonia, or numerous other places. Harper or the police or the army or the wannabe computer warriors want a war….well just remember the old adage….’don’t wish for something, you just might get it’.

[puckstopshere]

All Natives across Canada will become one like never before.

This is what is needed. 

IMO, Harper will use the current divisions amongst the natives as an excuse not to act.  Until they unite, who does Harper negotiate with?  He is probably sitting there laughing.

Atleo?  Spence?  iDLE nO mORE? 

Until the natives become as one, they will not succeed in coming to an agreement with the great white (god)father.

P.S.  A group of us were talking over a beer.  Should we take our vehicles to one of the roads leading to the Munsee-Delaware reserve and set up a blockade for a couple of hours to protest Harper's inaction.  We would have signs. 

What would the police response be? 

[art-in-the-making]

IMO, Harper will use the current divisions amongst the natives as an excuse not to act.  Until they unite, who does Harper negotiate with?  He is probably sitting there laughing.

Atleo?  Spence?  iDLE nO mORE? 

Until the natives become as one, they will not succeed in coming to an agreement with the great white (god)father.

Thus far, it looks like Harper's strategy of throwing the kitchen sink into Omnibus Bills to avoid accountability to Parliament has succeeded in uniting the First Nations as they rarely have been before.

If he pushes them that little bit further to complete unity, the result may be that Harper goes the way of Jean Charest.

I don't know what to think about the "negotiations". I think Harper is far too lacking in credibility to even be in the same meeting room as many of those native leaders.

[cats1953]

Interesting - Harper's approval rating is up. 

[valve37]

Interesting - Harper's approval rating is up. 

Wouldn't matter Cats if Stevie could wave a magic wand and solve the whole thing, Art would still be a bitter bitter man because his beloved Liberals are third raters shuffled off to the corner of the house.

A lovely lookig family it is!