VACATION OVER - BACK TO REALITY!

Ok, so we're back from an unbelievably great time in Riu Ochos Rios Jamaica! We could not have dreamed of a more perfect vacation....everything, including the food, the resort, our room, the pools, the ocean, the people and the sunshine were just stunning. It sure is nice to get away from it all (including eBay) for a week, just to unwind and relax.

The vacation setting seems to work fine- we only had a few sales via our website, and about a dozen eBay emails to check in on while we were away.
HOWEVER (there's always a "but" isn't there????), one buyer we had claims he tried to contact us (BS!!!!) and as he could not get ahold of us, left a negative for something that would easily have been covered under warranty, and that we would have gladly given a refund for. How nice is that? I contacted him via eBay and email, and offered to help, and I asked him if I could send him a fb revision form, and no reply yet. Wow. Wish I was still on the beach.....X-(

Cheers,
AXE
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Update...buyer has contacted me, now claiming that when he called, he got an answering machine, and as he hates answering machines, was impatient, did not leave a message on the machine, and left the neg.

So I offered to give him a 100 dollar partial refund to cover his cost of both the part and labor that would have otherwise been covered by warranty, and now he says he will revise his feedback.

Unbelievable. I hate to give him the refund out of my pocket, and I only get five feedback revision requests for the year, but a neg is a neg, and with the eBay feedback system gun to my head once again, hopefully I made the right choice.

AXE
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Update again: buyer revised the feedback, I gave him 100 dollar refund, and he says he is very happy and will spend most of it in our store!
People are interesting sometimes, aren't they? ?:|

AXE
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Interesting is a good word!

Welcome back to reality of ebay Axe. I have to say though that it seems like you just left for your holiday the other day.
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Ha Ha Ha....yeah, what a culture shock. The week blew by so fast, and then all of a sudden, one minute it seemed like we were laying on the beach with palm trees all around us, and the next we were in minus 24 C and snow!!
I would go back in a heart beat!

Cheers,
AXE
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Welcome home 🙂
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Hello,

I notice he left feedback first before you gave him a refund, may I ask how you worded this , did you say if you revise my feedback I will give you a refund, getting a little sick of people just leaving me negative feedback without contacting me first.

Red
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Hi redswebiz

If I may.

I noticed that in all three instances where you recently received negative feedback, you had not left positive feedback for your buyer upon receipt of payment. You waited for your buyers to leave feedback first.

You may want to rethink your procedure.

A quick survey of sellers feedback show that sellers who leave feedback upon receipt of payment show fewer negative feedback than those who wait to receive it. Think about it.
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Hi redswebiz,

First, Pierre is right. I believe you should adjust your settings to automatically leave great feedback as soon as the buyer pays you. You have no choice to leave negative later any more anyway, so putting up great feedback for them up front will remove any tension or worry for the buyer for his purchase right up front. Plus they love getting this great feedback added to their account, where other eBay members always see. (check out my feedback that I leave- only one, the same for everyone, as acknowledgement that they have done their part in the transaction for prompt payment).

Next, always send the buyer a thank you email after shipping, detailing when it was sent, where from, tracking number, expected shipping time frame (always go longer on that- if CP says 4-8 days, say 7-14 business days, for example), invite them to shop at your website, etc etc...but most importantly, remind them that you have already left them great feedback, and you would appreciate the same in kind when their item is recieved. And say that if they have any issues with their item, to contact you right away, before leaving feedback, so that you can have the chance to make things right. Also, include a similar note with their package along with a business card, etc.

The niche I am in unfortunately attracts a bit more potential for negs- younger or newby buyers, larger items = higher shipping costs, along with many fragile instruments that have more potential to have problems. I have had several negs in the past 6 months or so, all of which I have been able to get removed by the buyer simply by contacting them. Each case is different, but I would never say "remove the neg and I will give you money".

Rather, I speak to them from the stand point that we pride ourselves on the very best customer service on eBay, and always will go out of our way where possible to ensure the customer is satisfied with their purchase. I remind them that negs are very damaging to a seller's reputation, and we would really like to have a chance to make things right for them, and that a neg feedback solves absolutely nothing.
Sometimes, as in this case, the buyer may have tried to contact you, and gets frustrated quickly if they cant get a hold of you immediately, so the neg gets launched. (a toll free number has been a real asset to us, and a good "about me" page doesn't hurt either).
I refunded this buyer 100 dollars to go towards the part he claimed was defective (although I checked it over carefully myself before shipping), and to cover the labor at his music store, which he supplied proof of work being done. The 100 buck refund unfortunately I can't get back right away- our distributor would have gladly accepted a return and refunded the money for this, but as he failed to contact us first with his issue and took it somewhere else, he voided the lifetime warranty.

So after emailing him, he admitted that he should have been more patient and/or at least left a message on the 1-877 number line or at least sent us an email detailing his problem. In fact he felt so bad, he is using his 100 bucks to buy more product from our store. So in reality, the 100 bucks is nothing, and we will get it back in spades anyway.

Every neg removal case is different, but if you treat the buyer the way you would like to be treated, and give them great confidence that you really do care and will look after them, then your chances of neg removal will go up dramatically. Keep in mind that you only have a certain number of removals allowed in a year (I think I get 5 or 6). And always do your homework on the buyer- has he left negs before? If so how many? You can also contact other sellers to see what happened in their case when he gave them a neg. But if you feel that your neg was unique and you may have a chance for removal, go for it.

Hope this helps, and I should really acknowlege Bernie for many of his words of wisdom in the past to me that have helped develop some of these business practises that I use today.

AXE
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Thank you very much for the advice, I can understand now why you would leave them positive feedback rite away by putting myself in the customers shoes.

I will adjust my settings now.

Thank you
red
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Speaking of Bernie...I haven't seen him post in a while...
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