08-18-2016 12:46 PM
Okay this is more of a rant than an actual question but I'm kind of tired of this because it's the second time this happens to me.
A seller lists an item with a Best Offer option. Let's say the item is $20. I offer $15, then they offer $19. So I offer $16 or 17 and they decline. Why use the Best Offer if you're not even going to meet the buyer half-way? Are you kidding? One dollar?? Don't use the Best Offer option just for a dollar! That's insulting.
Okay I'm done. 🙂
Thoughts?
08-19-2016 07:28 AM
08-19-2016 01:03 PM
I list Best Offers under one ID all the time. The secret to using that strategy is always to set a min that is acceptable. If a person really wants the item, they make multiple bids to see how low is acceptable, The first two bids are low, but the third one usually hits my min and then I accept. If not, I don't even hear about the low ball offers, because their bid is rejected and they don't care to bid higher.
08-19-2016 01:05 PM
@kawaii-in-pink wrote:Okay this is more of a rant than an actual question but I'm kind of tired of this because it's the second time this happens to me.
A seller lists an item with a Best Offer option. Let's say the item is $20. I offer $15, then they offer $19. So I offer $16 or 17 and they decline. Why use the Best Offer if you're not even going to meet the buyer half-way? Are you kidding? One dollar?? Don't use the Best Offer option just for a dollar! That's insulting.
Okay I'm done. 🙂
Thoughts?
I awoke to a doozy this morning. On a listing where Best Offer does NOT exist, a buyer messaged me to say he'd take both at a reduced amount of 20 per cent discount but only if I shipped it to him for cheaper than Tracked Packet because it shouldn't cost that much, and he should know as he shipped from Australia to the States for half that so he doesn't care if it's tracked or not.
I kindly explained I would be happy to revise the listing to accept his Best Offer price but that the shipping costs were actual and we only use tracked services.
His Feedback Left For Others looks great.... which is the only thing that prevented me from blocking him for his nervy, unsolicited best offer and request to ship untraced.
08-19-2016 03:00 PM
I went through this before, a few times. I offer $1-$2 less, and the seller counter offers with $0.25-$0.50 off, this is on items priced at $15 or less though.
08-19-2016 04:07 PM - edited 08-19-2016 04:08 PM
That seems like madness to me, unless talking about a counteroffer of multiple quantities where a seller offering 50 cents off over ten items might amount to something. Otherwise.... what real difference does it make? Those sellers would be better to use markdowns if they have a store subscription.
08-20-2016 04:23 AM
@sylviebee wrote:I use the BO function a lot and I use it in various ways.
As far as I know, there's only one way to use one's body odor function. 😛
08-20-2016 11:25 AM
@wonsxela wrote:
@sylviebee wrote:I use the BO function a lot and I use it in various ways.
As far as I know, there's only one way to use one's body odor function. 😛
What do you do with yours?
08-20-2016 12:03 PM - edited 08-20-2016 12:07 PM
@mjwl2006 wrote:I awoke to a doozy this morning. On a listing where Best Offer does NOT exist, a buyer messaged me to say he'd take both at a reduced amount of 20 per cent discount but only if I shipped it to him for cheaper than Tracked Packet because it shouldn't cost that much, and he should know as he shipped from Australia to the States for half that so he doesn't care if it's tracked or not.
I kindly explained I would be happy to revise the listing to accept his Best Offer price but that the shipping costs were actual and we only use tracked services.
His Feedback Left For Others looks great.... which is the only thing that prevented me from blocking him for his nervy, unsolicited best offer and request to ship untraced.
Sounds like a re-seller, hoping to be able to turn over your item(s) and make most of the profit him/herself. I've had a couple of these in the past few weeks, which is unusual.
I have to say, in answer to the OP, that I think a lot of sellers use Best Offer inappropriately. You have likely run into one such seller, who thinks it means "I'll use Best Offer, but I'm not going to negotiate much at all". That seller might as well have just set the price where they wanted it in the first place.
I've used Best Offer very successfully over the years, but I use it strategically, normally only on items of higher value where there is negotiating "wiggle room" for both parties. Haggling over $1.00 is silly, pointless, and a waste of both buyer's and seller's time. That is why I rarely use Best Offer on items under about $75 unless the item is intended as a loss leader, my original cost is very low, or I want to test the market for similar items.
I think it's true that using Best Offer isn't a great idea where you're listing in $CDN but selling mostly to Americans. The math just confuses the issue.
08-20-2016 12:48 PM
@sylviebee wrote:IF eBay no longer allowed us to view FB left for others a number of things would likely follow:
1) There would be more NFB. Buyers are aware that sellers vet the FB they leave and sophisticated buyers with self-control don't leave NFB for that reason. That doesn't mean they're not problem buyers. It means that they're smart buyers.
Even so, NFB would likely not be left for the posters to this board who tend to be pretty darned good at what they do. It would be for your competition. (Good for you.)
2) You'd spend less time vetting buyers and stress levels would go down a little. (Good for you.)
3) Sales would increase. (Good for you/eBay).
Yes, it's true that occasionally viewing FB left for others is helpful, but most of the time it just hinders the process and makes it more stressful. (One less thing to worry about.)
In fact, at this point in the game FB in general no longer serves a purpose. In the past it allowed buyers to avoid problem sellers. However, we now have so many powerful protections in place that the importance of FB has waned to the point of pointlessness.
Etsy is way ahead of eBay in this regard.
I think unhappy buyers would still want to vent and leave negative FB, even if they knew that only the seller could see it. Which doesn't help other buyers wondering if they are safe to purchase from that seller. It cuts both ways, in other words, FB is not just a tool for sellers to vet buyers. In fact I don't think eBay's FB system was ever intended primarily to serve sellers. FB works more usefully for buyers vetting sellers, although that in turn benefits sellers who maintain good overall FB.
Although it's certainly true that there are more buyer protections now in place, it isn't always simple for buyers to navigate through those processes, especially if there is a truculent seller involved.
Personally I don't agonize over a buyer's FB if they make an offer on a Best Offer item. It doesn't cause me any stress at all. I simply take a quick look through the last 2 or 3 pages of FB left by that buyer for others, and if it's peppered with a lot of clearly nasty or irrational comments, I'd decline the offer. I might or might not block them, depending on how frequent and how ugly their negative FB was. That actually has never happened so far (declining an offer for that reason), so either I've been fortunate to have nothing but good buyers, or my Best Offers are working as they should. However, I wouldn't decline an offer simply because a buyer left a few negative FB comments -- it's the tone and subject that counts.
On the other hand, to respond to 'recped's' example, I don't think a buyer who leaves nothing but negative FB, even if only 1% of the time, is a buyer you'd necessarily want if you have a choice. If I saw that the first 2 or 3 pages of a buyer's "FB Left for Others" pages contained little or no positive FB, but only negative remarks, I'd conclude that this was a person who is very motivated to complain when unhappy, but apparently can never be bothered to go to the FB page and leave praise when the item or service is good. That too is a reasonable analysis.
Etsy is in an easier position because they've never had the cumbersome and problematic FB system that eBay has had since the beginning. They also have a completely different set of buyers and sellers, in products that are arguably less prone to nastiness than many categories on eBay, which I think accounts for a lot of the more relaxed atmosphere there.
EBay, with its extensive item mix and huge user base, keeps trying to tweak the FB concept to make it fairer to both sides but still keep it somewhat meaningful for everybody. They haven't completely succeeded, but I also don't think that layering "product reviews" on top of the FB system was a good idea. Reviews of seller service, in one form or another, is still important for buyers making choices.
08-24-2016 03:54 AM
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12-16-2016 09:54 AM
I was glad to read I am not the only one annoyed by some of the Best Offer sellers. I have used this option on several sellers in the past and some worked and some didn't. However, today I made a best offer to someone $3 less than their buy now and they came back with the buy now price. No reduction, just the same price as they posted. My question is, isn't that false advertising? Why bother with the Best Offer option at all if you are not going to at least come back with something lower than the original price?? I declined the offer on principal. I would like to see feedback on things like this reflected on the sellers feedback but it only works for things you buy. Trying to get a hold of Ebay is a whole other rant could go on since making a complaint about a sellers practices seems to be next to impossible! They can't even call me when I selected that option! Waste of time really.
12-16-2016 10:22 AM
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