is the shipping charge accurate that shows on the page under the dollar value of item

[newtsrybc]

shipping charge Canada to Canada

[marnotom!]

Depends on how good a job the seller did on setting up their listing.

But it is supposed to be the shipping charge that the seller is obligated to use when completing the sale.

[femmefan1946]

The seller can't demand more than the advertised fee to any given destination.

BUT

Many buyers mistake the domestic (US) rate for the Canadian rate. The exact rate to your doorstep is on the second page of the listing. There is a S&H tab.

Many buyers overlook the new Global Shipping Program charges which collect duty and taxes on US purchases. These are added onto the buyer's invoice.

In an auction, the amount the bidder sees at first for the GSP charge may be low, since tax in particular varies by province and by the value of the item.

And of course, if you are buying in US dollars and paying in CDN dollars there is exchange to consider. Today the Canadian dollar is about $1.80 US before bank charges.

[pocomocomputing]

$1.80 ?? You mean $1.08...

[femmefan1946]

Yeah. I'm kinda dysnumeric. 

It's like dyslexic but with numbers. I have trouble with clocks too.

[mcollins3369]

Right, even when it IS a rip-off that involves the item taking a tour of the continent before it gets to you.  When you investigate all these complaints, do you actually understand the distances versus the costs?  It's a make-work-program of sorts.  For me, an item was coming from New York, then on to Kentucky, then on to Toronto.  That's just nuts and not worth defending on any level.  It's a  waste of fuel, time and money which we are all paying for, and thanks to career eBay defenders like you, the backlash will only intensify!!  Your incessant, irresponsible, unaccountable rhetoric is just too obvious.

[marnotom!]

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@mcollins3369 wrote:

Right, even when it IS a rip-off that involves the item taking a tour of the continent before it gets to you.  When you investigate all these complaints, do you actually understand the distances versus the costs?  It's a make-work-program of sorts.  For me, an item was coming from New York, then on to Kentucky, then on to Toronto.  That's just nuts and not worth defending on any level.  It's a  waste of fuel, time and money which we are all paying for, and thanks to career eBay defenders like you, the backlash will only intensify!!  Your incessant, irresponsible, unaccountable rhetoric is just too obvious.

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The GSP isn't suitable for a lot of stuff sold outside of the United States, but neither is Express Mail, FedEx or UPS.  

What you're describing is likely one of the apparently many instances where the GSP is being used inappropriately.  Blaming the GSP itself will only get you so far.  What is a far more effective way of combating it is educating buyers and sellers on when it does and doesn't work.  I spend a fair bit of time on the .com site's International Trading board doing that.  What have you done besides get a partial refund that a seller didn't have to give you?

[afantiques]

The point of sending stuff south to go north is similar to driving south to the airport to catch a plane north. It's quicker overall than driving straight north.

If it all works properly shipping from a hub can be quicker if, for example, customs clearance is much faster. Transit time is not all travel time.

Also, the system is intended for world wide application. Canada, being relatively close is a special case.

I'm not saying it is all (or even more than fractionally) a good idea, just that many objections are spurious and based on some fundamental misunderstandings.

[froogal_electronic_parts_and_overstock]

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@afantiques wrote:

 many objections are spurious and based on some fundamental misunderstandings.

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I vote this as understatement of the year. 🙂

[arlene_v]

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@marnotom! wrote:

 I spend a fair bit of time on the .com site's International Trading board doing that.  What have you done besides get a partial

refund that a seller didn't have to give you?

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Tom,  kudos to you and several others for the many hours you have spent helping with practical concerns. There was one instance recently where a poster here was completely at a loss, and your posts helped her immensely. 

This being said, though ..this is  eBay's baby.  Apart from Bennett who is an absolute star, where are eBay and PB in this mess? They just don't show up ....nor do they seem to provide any feedback about progress re the GSP in particular. They let community members basically do their work for them. They are silent. 

What are they doing to make this work, and to win back any kind of confidence among Canadian buyers?

Zero.

[marnotom!]

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@arlene_v wrote:

What are they doing to make this work, and to win back any kind of confidence among Canadian buyers?

Zero.

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You might also want to note that eBay has done little prior to the Global Shipping Program to encourage American sellers to ship internationally.  It's been largely up to board posters to point out that tracking is largely unnecessary, loss rates are generally extremely low, and that there are ways to cover one's assets other than following PayPal's and eBay's so-called "protection" requirements.

Thanks for the kudos.