Congress Gives Standing Ovation to Cops For Executing Unarmed Mother

Couple years ago I would consider this to be possible only in dystopian fiction.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM_flkAhBNk#t=35

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The applause was all political and they also jumped the gun.......no paronomasia intended.

 

The police shot an unarmed woman with mental problems who was at the time surrendering. Yes surrendering. Little to nothing is mentioned about that in the media but two eye witnesses to the final confrontation said she opened the door, got out of the car and was shot. Did I mention she was unarmed? Also, although the police didn't know it, there was a child inside the car and I wonder how they would feel if the child had been hit with a police bullet.

 

Now some will say I have a dislike for police, which is untrue. I do have a dislike for police who don't think and over react. Certainly it was a tense situation and no one knew what she was doing or why, but she was isolated, not near government buildings or the White House. There was no need to shoot until they knew the whole situation and they had time to do that.





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One even wonders if, with the high cost of a lengthy trial - and a lengthy incarceration - we will see more of this kind of thing.  Killing a "criminal" saves a lot of time and money.  Maybe this is the "1984" solution to out-of-control police budgets.  It seems to be happening with greater frequency.

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Experts debate decision to shoot U.S. Capitol car chase driver

 

Police experts are questioning the use of lethal force against the unarmed Connecticut woman who tried to crash into the White House before barrelling down Pennsylvania Avenue toward the U.S. Capitol, where she was shot and killed by officers.

“My visceral reaction is this woman shouldn’t have been shot,” said Thomas Aveni, the executive director of the Police Policy Studies Council, a research and training organization that studies criminal justice issues and is based in Spofford, N.H.

At least one officer was injured in the chase, which Mr. Aveni said could have been the “most salient” factor for the police to take action against 34-year-old Miriam Carey of Stamford, Conn.

Ms. Carey allegedly flipped a Secret Service officer over the hood of her car as she fled the White House and drove at speeds up to 128 kilometres an hour toward the Capitol, with police cars in pursuit.

Near the Capitol, Ms. Carey smashed her black Infiniti sedan into several police vehicles before coming to a brief stop, surrounded by police officers with guns drawn. But she manoeuvred the car through them and sped off again toward 2nd Street NE, where she was shot and killed.

There is no uniform policy among police departments for using lethal force, which necessitates good judgment from law enforcement, former Seattle police chief Norm Stamper said.

Most agencies carefully train their officers to use discretion in these kinds of ambiguous situations, but there are always unknown circumstances that could put both officers and bystanders in danger, Mr. Stamper said.

In high-speed car chases, Mr. Aveni said most law enforcement agencies bar their officers from shooting at moving vehicles because of concern that a vehicle with a wounded or dead driver could harm bystanders.

Mr. Stamper agreed.

“If you incapacitate the one person, however recklessly they may be operating, who is in control of the wheel, if you have a body rather than a person behind the wheel of a car, that can do an awful lot of damage,” he said. “The general policy is: Don’t shoot at moving vehicles.”

In a high-security locale like Washington, D.C., police officers might feel a higher level of caution when they protect the White House and Capitol, said Chuck Drago, a police practices consultant with Drago Professional Consultants, an organization headquartered in Oviedo, Fla., that analyzes and evaluates police procedures.

“But I don’t think, even then, that would cause them to shoot any quicker because they’ve got to follow the law,” Mr. Drago said, referring to their agencies’ policies on lethal force.

Mr. Aveni said federal law enforcement officers don’t seem to come under as much scrutiny as local officers do when it comes to using lethal force.

“Local officers face grand juries fairly commonly when they use deadly force,” he said. “I have not seen it with federal law enforcement.”

Both Mr. Aveni and Mr. Stamper said the mood in Washington could have affected the officers’ reactions, especially after the Navy Yard mass shooting two weeks ago and the continuing tension of a government shutdown.

“If the prevailing climate is one in which there is elevated concern about people disgruntled with the government shutdown or that they can’t work … certainly I can understand where there might be elevated concern of that happening,” Mr. Aveni said.

Members of Congress praised the Capitol Police’s actions during the incident and gave the first responders a standing ovation on the House floor shortly after the incident.

U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul, who was briefed about the incident by the Homeland Security Department, also said the woman was unarmed.

“There was no return fire,” he said.

Until full details emerge of what happened during the shooting, Mr. Drago said it is hard to know what prompted the police to go on the offensive.

“I don’t really know why they fired,” he said. “Typically a person fleeing from the police in a vehicle does not require deadly force.”

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/experts-debate-decision-to-shoot-us-capitol-car-chase-driv...

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Re: Killing a "criminal" saves a lot of time and money.

 

Hitler's Germany had a police force called Gestapo, established in 1933 and from 1936 they were literally above the law and could not be sued in courts. They were very effective saving lot of time and money by instant executions.

 

I can see enormous savings by declaring certain government agencies criminal organizations and deny all their members pensions under the premises of collective responsibility and declaring this regulation non-actionanable in courts. Bye bye US debt.

 

 

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