'Country pricing' a cause of Canada-U.S. price gaps

Canadians are paying far more than Americans for the same products because of a systemic and unjustifiable markup scheme by many manufacturers, a retail expert says.


A Marketplace report on Canada-U.S. price gaps found Canadians paying higher prices — more than double in some cases — for the same retail goods because of an industry phenomenon called "country pricing."


"Multi-national brands, they have two different price lists … (one) for retailers in Canada, and (one) for retailers in the United States," says Diane Brisebois, president of the Retail Council of Canada. "And I can guarantee you that the price lists for retailers in Canada [have] prices that are between 10 to 50 per cent higher than the prices in the United States."


In some cases, the final sale price is much more.


Marketplace's investigation found a bottle of Bayer Aspirin, which costs $5.96 at a U.S. Wal-Mart sells for $13.86 at a Canadian one, a 132 per cent difference.


Prices are local, and on the day of the investigation, the Canadian dollar was trading at 99.3 cents US.


The Senate finance committee's Wednesday report on the price gap contained other pronounced examples. Automobile tires cost 32 per cent more in Canada, and a bottle of ibuprofen cost 70 per cent more than the U.S. price.


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Edmonton resident Christine Maligec was shocked to find the playpen she bought from Toys "R" Us cost $129.99 in the U.S., but jumped to $249.99 in Canada.


"I can understand paying a little bit more, but nearly twice as much?" she said. "And our dollar is nearly at par — what's going on with that?"


Explanations 'a bloody lie'


Manufacturers claim that Canadian prices are higher due to labour and transportation costs, tariffs, the smaller Canadian market and other issues.


Bayer responded to Marketplace's story with an email pointing to similar factors causing higher prices in Canada.


"These dynamics are influenced by a variety of factors such as local economic conditions, cost of goods, differences in product formulation and local regulatory packaging and distribution costs," it read in part. " A direct comparison of Canadian and U.S. prices is not appropriate."


Brisebois says those issues should only cause slight price increases, but such high double- and triple-digit markups are indefensible.


"I don't care what the manufacturer says," she told Marketplace host Tom Harrington, "You cannot justify 30 per cent, 50 per cent, 100 per cent more in Canada than in the United States. It may cost a bit more to do business in one country versus another, but we're talking about five to 10 per cent.


"I don't believe in that crap," she added. "I think it's a bloody lie, and I think retailers are saying enough is enough."


It's difficult for many retailers to fight back effectively, because the manufacturers can essentially hold them hostage.


"We have small retailers who have been complaining to their manufacturers that they're charging them too much in Canada," Brisebois said. "And the manufacturers are saying, 'You don't like my price, then don't carry my line.' They're threatening retailers."


In her testimony to the Senate committee, Brisebois elaborated on the issue.


"If I am a sporting goods retailer in this country, and I do not carry Reebok or Nike, chances are that I will not have too much retail traffic in my store," she said. "That explains why they also have the ability to tell a Canadian retailer … how much they will sell a product for if the retailer wants it in their store."


The markups hurt retailers too, since many shoppers are choosing to take their business across the border.


A May 2012 report from Bank of Montreal estimated that cross-border shopping is costing the Canadian economy approximately $20 billion per year, and Brisebois says the government i...


It's not just foreign manufacturers exploiting Canadians. Brisebois says even Canadian manufacturers are guilty of country pricing.


"We have Canadian manufacturers who are selling to Canadian retailers at a higher price than they are to U.S. retailers," she explained. "And the product is made here. It doesn't make sense."


Accustomed to overcharging


One reason that Canadians pay so much more is simply that they're accustomed to it.


"[Manufacturers] say… the market can bear it," Brisebois said. "[Canadians] had more money or they were used to paying a higher price."


Brisebois says that attitude springs from times when the Canadian dollar was typically closer to 60 cents US and cross-border shopping was less popular. Prices were naturally higher in Canada, but Canadians came to expect those prices, so they never pushed back even as the dollar neared parity.


During the recent Senate probe, multiple witnesses — including Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney — said the problem of "charging what the market will bear" is due to a lack of competition.


The Senate report concluded that "increasing competition in Canada is crucial to eliminating price discrepancies between the two countries."


The report also calls for a "comprehensive review of Canadian tariffs," and possible increases on duty-free shipping limits.


Brisebois applauded the Senate findings and hopes that changes are coming.


"The government must now act in its upcoming budget to implement many of the recommendations of this report and be a part of the solution," she said.


"Retailers continue to do their job in delivering value to consumers. It is now time for our government to assist in leveling the playing field for our businesses in Canada."


 


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/02/07/marketplace-country-pricing.html

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As someone who worked in the food industry for many years, one of my responsibilities was called "label compliance".  We have regulations in Canda that are much more restrictive than those in the U.S.  Some ingredients ocmmon in certain U.S. food products are not permitted in Canada.  The final straw is the requirement for French ans English on the package.  This means that U.S. manufacturers selling in Canada must make separate packaging for the Canadian market. 


For many years, this has been one of the "excuses" that U.S. manufacturers used for their higher prices.  One would think that the Canadian market would be large enough to make it worthwhile to sell here - even with different packaging.

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Some of the difference in price, Canada versus the US may go back to the time when the Canadian dollar was worth a lot more than the US dollar.


 


This would show with books having a US and  Canadian price. on the dust jacket.


 


Such as ---


 


$19.99 US price


 


$29.99 Canadian price


 


reflecting an exchange rate close to $1.50 Canadian to $1.00 US  (About 10 years ago)


 


Differential pricing remained for many years.


 


Then came the day when there was an equality between the Canadian and US dollars.


 


Yet book stores still charged the differential...


 


until customers revolted...  with enough of a revolt that the Canadian stores started charging the US price to their Canadian buyers who paid in Canadian dollars


 


 


There used to be difference in price for vehicles, Canada versus US.


 


Do not know if that difference is still present.


 


Historically there has been a difference... but how much should there be today.


 


and ---  What about rthe Free Trade Agreement... NAFTA?


 


 


With many things  it was adding a sticker, in French, to the English-only box.... 


 


Today instructions come in many languages, other than English and French

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If a Canadian company ships to the US...


 


Do they remove the French component?


 


Or


 


Do they add Spanish?  to the English/French box

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I deal with one manufacturer that charges Canadian 20% more than US customers.


I am dealing with a US supplier that helps get the difference down to about 7% above the American retail.


 

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Prices are determined by several factors, e.g. supply and demand, market purchasing power, etc. When we were on vacation to Cuba few years ago and my son got sick, he got Canadian antibiotic and at resort with tourist surcharge they charged us about half of what they sell for here.


 


Another example: house prices. Similar materials, almost similar costs to developer and prices can vary greatly.


 


Australian parliament is now making inquiry for Apple, Microsoft and Adobe to explain why their products cost in Australia 60% more than in USA. In my opinion, these companies don't owe anyone any explanation.


 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market


 


Here is Index of Economic Freedom, Canada ranking #6. One of the criteria is the minimal price regulation.


 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom


 


Btw. don't take me wrong, I hate paying more. But this study shows we are wealthier consumers than Americans.


 

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About 4 years ago I purchased some products at trade show in Toronto from a U.S. based wholesaler.  I received a substantial show "discount" and paid about $65 per item.  Later on I saw the same products listed at $75 USD "retail" on their .com website.  The prices were much higher on their .ca website.  They eventually lowered their prices at the trade show but I haven't dealt with them since.


 


In the early 90's I purchased stock from a U.S. company and paid as much as 56% exchange plus taxes, duty and brokerage fees.  The products were still substantially cheaper than they were at the Toronto trade show.


 


Before Christmas DH and I were in Port Huron and purchased 24 cans of Molson's Canadian for 14.99.  My brother-in law purchased 4 cases on a day trip to the U.S.  After he paid the taxes, duty and exchange they still cost him about $20 per case as opposed to around $45 here.

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