‘Union outraged by back-to-work legislation’

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‘Union outraged by back-to-work legislation’

I met MP Daniel Blaikie at the Canada Post hearings two years ago, I sent him the same email that went to the PMO and my MP and the Minister of Labour. I don’t think he can claim that online sellers aren’t collateral damage in this.

I also contacted the Winnipeg Free Press with a Letter to the Editor. It turned into a front page news story.



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I am working on my Giant Valentines Day Sale listings right now! 

You can force them back to work, but you can not force them to work. It will be "work to rule" for all postal members for many months now, which means no overtime will be worked, so this problem still is not going away before the end of January if we are very lucky.

 

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And to think a week ago postal employees had the same opportunity to go back to work willingly with a $1000-signing bonus in their pockets for doing so. Their union leadership bungled this badly.
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Well, since the bargaining committee is a elected group selected by union members, they have no one to blame but themselves. If Canada Post and the union could just hash a out a long term deal, lets say a minimum 5 year contract, it would be the best Christmas ever for Ebay sellers! I guess no matter what happens now, to make all things worse,  there is surely to be a postal rate increase coming in the New Year sometime to make up for the losses.

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mcrlmn
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Wakey, wakey CUPW.
Run roughshod and never a consideration.
You're headed for binding arbitration.

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One reason the union is slowing the mail now is that they were legislated back to work in 2011,  after Management closed down the post office by locking out the workers for two weeks.

Their contract, finally signed in 2012,  expired in 2016.

 

There's a lot of posturing going on, and that remark about being proud of disruption was tone-deaf  to the general public, but most of it is for the members, not the public.

 

The big centres are Vancouver/Richmond, Winnipeg, Toronto/Gateway and Montreal.

All the smaller centres are window dressing.

 

That there are 600+ trucks backed up gives the public an idea of how much work is done daily by the union workers.

 

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I don’t disagree with you but let’s not forget the workers of Canada Post exist to serve the customers of Canada Post.

I love my carrier. I know he works hard for the money.

Lots of people work harder at worse jobs that pay less.

The union bungled this for their members, period. All cracks in the facade say it.

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Also, this is the final place I'm going to share it. 

 

I've been saying for days that everyone needs to write the PMO and their MP and the federal Minister of Labour about the impact the postal strike is having on them. I did. I also laid it all bare for the world to see in a Letter to the Editor to the Winnipeg Free Press.

 

They did not publish my letter. 

 

Instead they called me for an interview and despite the fact I am embarrassed to tell the world (or at least all those who read the local daily including friends, family and frenemies alike) how badly I am suffering at the hands of this postal dispute, I agreed. This is front page news in Winnipeg today.

 

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/canada-post-501042732.html

 

I'm sharing this not to draw even more unwelcome attention to myself but so that you can see that even if you are little and relatively as unimportant as I am, your voice can still be heard.

 

Write your MP and send that email to the PMO and Minister of Labour. If the postal strike affects you, tell them so and how. Regardless of your feelings and what side (if any) you support, do it. 

 

You can be heard. 

 

 

 

 

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The Real Winnipeg Free Press is delivered to me......

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Winnipeg Free Press, Thursday, November 22, 2018

 

The Front Page --- Selling on eBay is highlighted with a photograph of an eBay seller and the Heading..... Postal strike hurting online retailers at busiest time of year

 

A full page of reporting... One photograph and three articles

 

(1) The photograph is the same person as on the front page, the first page in this newspaper

 

(2) Online sellers hurt by delays ----   How things are for the eBay seller in the picture,  and how things may change in 2018  if online purchases are not available

 

(3) Labour dispute reveals shifting nature of postal service ---  The discussion starts in 2007  and advances to 2011, the previous postal strike, and then to 2018.  Things have definitely changed from lettermail to parcels.  The billing and payment system, using lettermail has changed  to use of the internet. 

 

"Today a postal strike is a hassle for small businesses and customers ordering online , but hardly critical.  It's a bit of an inconvenience, but it's not the end of the world  like it once was"

 

This author has to go to school an find out what it means to sell online, and then the effect of a postal strike an online business

 

(4) Ottawa ready to force end to mail strike.  

 

The Federal Government is ready....  but appears to be somewhat hesitant....  A negotiated settlement  is a better option, but not a reality.

 

Canada Post is in a waiting mode  and reporting a massive backlog of trailers that contain mail ... mainly parcel mail

 

CUPW, the Postal Union disputes the claim of a massive backlog of trailers and claims Canada Post is lying.    Canada Post has had to move the trailers to an offsite,  rented site.  Something CUPW chooses not to recognize.

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Final conclusion ---  Things will happen, but everything will take time.

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Final concern....  The NDP is on the side of the union  and may create  a barrier to legislation. In 2011 it was a lengthy filibuster, which meant a series of days where the NDP  speaks, speaks, and speaks in response to legislation,  and slowed down the process of having the back to work legislation passed.   

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 I think that most of us are more comfortable speaking up in private (or anonymously online) than speaking out in public. Good for you for taking the less comfortable route!

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The Government has made an adjustment to the legislative process that should prevent the occurence of a filibuster.

 

If the government does it right,  The Union will be fighting a shadow and not a reality

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While this is mentioned toward the end of the CBC piece linked by @momcqueen, it bears repeating.

http://www.cavalluzzo.com/resources/news/details/2016/05/06/postal-workers-win-court-challenge-to-ba...

The Trudeau Liberals need to tred very carefully here. The perceived delay in tabling this bill may have been due to lengthy legal consultation.
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That May 2016 ruling has to be addressed very carefully...  The Government has given CUPW many options to end the strike....  and it was the union and not Canada Post that kept saying no to an offer.

 

There also appeared to be an  offer for the Union to work with Canada Post  and resolve critical safety issues, without these issues being a definitive part of the new contract.

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The union may chose to legally fight the legislation that forces them to end the strike....  

 

Do online sellers have a right to run their businesses without any level of interference. 

 

Can online sellers be put in a situation where they never have to deal with another postal disruption such as has been experienced in 2018.

 

Who will win?

 

 

 

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Well done Mo.  Not easy to do an interview - maybe it will bring you some local sales.

 

I too sent off my upset emails to PMO and MP. 

 

Didn't hear back, just hope they were added to a huge pile from upset sellers.

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Good for you, I’m glad you wrote too. I know the Prime Minister won’t reply but my Member of Parliament (staff) did to mine almost immediately. He’s a Liberal MP so he could say he cares. Actually, my MP is one of the good guys in politics, I think. I’ve been keeping an eye on him since he was a city councilman 20 years ago.

I hope your emails gained you some satisfaction. If you’re feeling bold, send one to local media and see if they bite. Aside from being an embarrassment, it may aid your situation as well.
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Kudos Maureen. Thanks for speaking out on behalf of all of us eBay sellers & letting the public know how we are affected.

IMO though this legislation will come too late to salvage this year’s Christmas season. With all the reports of the trailers of unsorted mail & the Post Office saying they cannot guarantee delivery I think the public will have lost confidence to rely on shipping by Canada Post for this Christmas. The other issue of course is with the workers being legislated back, they will likely be an unhappy lot & wIll not work the overtime required to sort out this mess till into the new year. 

I too blame the union brass for this situation & I think many of the workers would have accepted the last offer if they had been given the choice. Perhaps it is time for the workers to rethink their union & the power they give them.

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@cumos55 wrote:

That May 2016 ruling has to be addressed very carefully...  The Government has given CUPW many options to end the strike....  and it was the union and not Canada Post that kept saying no to an offer.


"Many" options?  Really?  I think I can count those options on one hand and have fingers left over.

 

And what do you mean by "the union and not Canada Post that kept saying no to an offer"?  If you mean a contract offer, since when is the union in a position to make a contract offer to management?  It can make counteroffers, and I believe it did just that very recently.  Was it accepted?


@cumos55 wrote:

 

There also appeared to be an  offer for the Union to work with Canada Post  and resolve critical safety issues, without these issues being a definitive part of the new contract.


Translation:  Canada Post doesn't want its feet held to the fire with a load of safety grievances filed by the union.

 

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