
03-07-2021 12:44 AM
03-07-2021 03:07 AM
Without tracking you would lose a Not Received dispute automatically, so while I agree this is fish-adjacent, that would have been an easier dispute to file.
Respond to the Dispute-- hmm this is an official dispute, right, not just a Message telling you of the problem--I believe you get an eBay email telling you if there is a formal Dispute opened.
If you did, also check the extended address.
Scammers try not to file Disputes. They depend on sob stories and bullying.
Your photos will be ignored by eBay. They are mediators and in any case photos and video can be doctored.
But, no tracking, so I can only hope that the item was not high value because you are working in a high fraud category. And it seems as often the seller as the buyer.
Each of us has to decide, at what point we stop using cheap, reliable, fast, but untrackable LetterPost, and move to tracked Parcel rates which start around $12 for regional domestic service and soar after that.
Choose too low an amount and your profits get eaten up by refunds and return shipping fees.
Choose too high, and you lose sales, and sit on a lot of unsold merch.
So we use Cookie Jar Insurance, tossing a few virtual pennies into a virtual Cookie Jar for each sale and when/if there is a problem cover the costs from the Cookie Jar. Boring people refer to this as self-insurance.
03-07-2021 03:14 AM
BTW - your low end cards.
Buyers hate all shipping, but are especially annoyed when shipping is higher than the asking price.
Consider Free Shipping.
This just means adding your shipping costs (including packaging) to the asking price. Buyers know it's not free, but love it anyway.
And generally, you can't make money on $2.00 items. Those are the ones that you bundle. Rather than one card for $2 plus $2 shipping - a total of $4, you offer 5 cards for $19.99/ Free Shipping.
03-07-2021 10:57 AM - edited 03-07-2021 10:58 AM
Did the buyer really open an “item not received” and not an “item not as described” claim? They should have opened the latter, but . . . 🤷
03-07-2021 12:01 PM - edited 03-07-2021 12:07 PM
@marnotom! wrote:Did the buyer really open an “item not received” and not an “item not as described” claim? They should have opened the latter, but . . . 🤷
Why?
The item wasn't received.
Sorry to dissappoint, but I would've done the same.
My advise to the OP is to refund the buyer.
There is no point in dragging the matter out.
The outcome will favour the buyer.
03-07-2021 12:59 PM
@mcrlmn wrote:@marnotom! wrote:Did the buyer really open an “item not received” and not an “item not as described” claim? They should have opened the latter, but . . . 🤷
Why?The item wasn't received.
Sorry to dissappoint, but I would've done the same.
My advise to the OP is to refund the buyer.
There is no point in dragging the matter out.
The outcome will favour the buyer.
If you had done the same as a buyer and there was tracking showing delivery, you would have lost since ebay looks only to see if the tracking shows if the item was delivered. But I agree that in the 'real world' it does make sense to open an item not received when you've only received the envelope, not the item itself.
It also makes sense for the op to just refund the buyer now as ebay will not rule in the sellers favour as there is no tracking in this case. Even if the buyer had opened an item not as described, the seller would end up refunding as ebay always assumes that the buyer is unhappy and they want the seller to make things right.
03-07-2021 02:05 PM
But--
The buyer should be encouraged to open a case--whatever the reason-- with eBay.
I suspect, being old and cranky, that the card arrived just fine, and that the buyer has done this before.
Possibly targetting relatively new sellers who might be more susceptible to bullying.
The reason for the formal Dispute is to put the buyer on notice with eBay.
Buyers who have "too many" Disputes can lose the right to the Money Back Guarantee, and that helps all of us.
Yes, the OP will lose the dispute. But if he promptly refunds, there will be no blowback for him.
The hope is that a scammer finds his scam doesn't work anymore.
@m_gabe If the Dispute has been opened, refund promptly.
If the Dispute is not formally open, do not refund until it is.
If it ever is.
Gamers gonna game.
03-08-2021 12:51 PM - edited 03-08-2021 12:52 PM
@pjcdn2005 wrote:
@mcrlmn wrote:The item wasn't received.
My advise to the OP is to refund the buyer.
There is no point in dragging the matter out.
The outcome will favour the buyer.
If you had done the same as a buyer and there was tracking showing delivery, you would have lost
Did I miss something?
Or is this just another 'just sayin' short story moment?
The seller didn't ship with tracking.
Of course, if he had shipped with tracking, the outcome would be different.
But that's not the scenerio the OP is concerned about.
03-08-2021 01:50 PM
@mcrlmn wrote:Why?
The item wasn't received.
Sorry to dissappoint, but I would've done the same.
My advise to the OP is to refund the buyer.
There is no point in dragging the matter out.
The outcome will favour the buyer.
The item may not have been received, but the package was. Would you have done the same if the package had tracking showing delivery?
Agree that refunding the buyer ASAP is in the seller's best interests.