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ypdc_dennis · ‎07-03-2017

I was able to crunch some numbers today (yeah, a sale to the USA).

This sample data uses tier 1 rates for Solutions for Small Business (the higher levels have better rates).

Conclusion:

eBay rates via Shippo are best for Small Packet USA

For Tracked Packet or Expedited USA best is Canada Post's Snap Ship for the July 15% bonus discount. Starting August 1 eBay/Shippo will be the best.

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Rate comparisons to USA (July 2017)

Lettermail and Light Packet are just over-the-counter or stamped choices.

051-100g .. 2.95 O/S lettermail
101-200g .. 5.15 O/S lettermail
000-200g .. 6.84 Light Packet
201-300g .. 8.60 Light Packet
Small Packet is a better choice weights above 300g

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Labels directly from PayPal will use your Solutions for Small Business discount making it the same as Canada Post EST or (after July 31) the same as Snap Ship. SfSB tier 1 rates shown.

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Sample: 0-250g, 21x16x2cm, Ontario province to New York state

* $ 8.61 - Small Packet (over the counter)
* $ 8.49 - Small Packet (PayPal or CP EST)
* $ 7.22 - Small Packet (CP Snap Ship until July 31)
* $ 7.05 - Small Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

* $17.26 - Tracked Packet (over the counter)
* $16.25 - Tracked Packet (PayPal or CP EST)

* $14.71 - Tracked Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)
* $13.81 - Tracked Packet (CP Snap Ship until July 31)

* $20.24 - Expedited Parcel (over the counter)
* $19.02 - Expedited Parcel (PayPal or CP EST)

* $17.37 - Expedited Parcel (eBay.ca via Shippo)
* $16.17 - Expedited Parcel (CP Snap Ship until July 31)

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Sample: 251-500g, 21x16x2cm, Ontario province to New York state

* $11.29 - Small Packet (over the counter)
* $11.15 - Small Packet (PayPal or CP EST)
* $ 9.48 - Small Packet (CP Snap Ship until July 31)
* $ 9.25 - Small Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

* $18.70 - Tracked Packet (over the counter)
* $17.52 - Tracked Packet (PayPal or CP EST)
* $15.85 - Tracked Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)
* $14.89 - Tracked Packet (CP Snap Ship until July 31)

* $20.24 - Expedited Parcel (over the counter)
* $19.02 - Expedited Parcel (PayPal or CP EST)
* $17.37 - Expedited Parcel (eBay.ca via Shippo)
* $16.17 - Expedited Parcel (CP Snap Ship until July 31)

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Sample: 501g-1.0kg, 21x16x2cm, Ontario province to New York state

* $16.82 - Small Packet (over the counter)
* $16.60 - Small Packet (PayPal or CP EST)
* $14.11 - Small Packet (CP Snap Ship until July 31)
* $13.78 - Small Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

* $21.25 - Tracked Packet (over the counter)
* $19.96 - Tracked Packet (PayPal or CP EST)
* $18.05 - Tracked Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)
* $16.97 - Tracked Packet (CP Snap Ship until July 31)

* $21.80 - Expedited Parcel (over the counter)
* $20.53 - Expedited Parcel (PayPal or CP EST)
* $18.75 - Expedited Parcel (eBay.ca via Shippo)
* $17.45 - Expedited Parcel (CP Snap Ship until July 31)

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pjcdn2005 · ‎07-03-2017

Thank you!

reallynicestamps · ‎07-03-2017

Thanks dennis.

We should keep in mind of course that neither LightPacket/LetterPost nor Small Packet USA are trackable, if the item is of great value.

momcqueen · ‎07-03-2017

Thank you agains for taking the time to do the analysis and share it. I for one will be making sad, frowney faces after Snap Ship's additional discount expires Aug. 1.

sylviebee · ‎07-03-2017

Are you still able to get on Snap Ship?

momcqueen · ‎07-03-2017

I tried Snap Ship tonight, and was unable to print a label after logging in. There was just an endless loop of signing in that i could not pass. SO I had to use Shippo for the first time. It's not hard to use but I'm underwhelmed to say the least.

1. It's ridiculous that an ebay-generated label doesn't automatically upload tracking and designate the order shipped.

2. It's stupid not to be billed for each label as it is created. I don't want to have to wait until my bill for labels hits $100 or whatever nonsense they have set-up.

3. Why was everything pre-filled in inches and USD?

There needs to be some fine-tuning.

momcqueen · ‎07-03-2017

Also, it says my label was 'Created July 4'. Today is still July 3 in all parts of Canada so I cannot imagine what they are referring to with July 4. Someone has some explaining to do.

momcqueen · ‎07-03-2017

Here it is again. July 4 shortly after midnight according to Shippo. Why do I anticipate this is going to cause me problems with meeting my requirements for same-day handling time? My label shows it was generated on the wrong day.

momcqueen · ‎07-03-2017

Ugh! And now I have to upload tracking manually on paypal too! This is so dumb.

ypdc_dennis · ‎07-03-2017

@mjwl2006 wrote:
Here it is again. July 4 shortly after midnight according to Shippo. Why do I anticipate this is going to cause me problems with meeting my requirements for same-day handling time? My label shows it was generated on the wrong day.

And what does Canada Post say for time when you plug in the tracking number?

Although it does sound like Shippo's running on GMT.

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lady.stark · ‎07-03-2017

@ypdc_dennis wrote:

Sample: 0-250g, 21x16x2cm, Ontario province to New York state

* $ 8.61 - Small Packet (over the counter)
* $ 8.49 - Small Packet (PayPal or CP EST)
* $ 7.22 - Small Packet (CP Snap Ship until July 31)
* $ 7.05 - Small Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

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This is strange... I don't understand why I did not get the same price you did with Shippo last time I tried to print a label to the US. My price was something like $8.04... for a package under 250 grams, about 32x27x1 cm.

ypdc_dennis · ‎07-03-2017

@mjwl2006 wrote:

...3. Why was everything pre-filled in inches and USD?

There needs to be some fine-tuning.

Shippo support told me they can adjust my account to metric -- but the question is why this is not a user setable choice for the measurement units.

However, no major surprise, as I think eBay.CA is their first step outside the American safe zone.

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rose-dee · ‎07-04-2017

Thanks so much for crunching all those numbers and putting them into such helpful order! As if shipping weren't already a challenge, now we have to keep up with three different sets of rates. Yikes.

"However, no major surprise, as I think eBay.CA is their first step outside the American safe zone."

No doubt you're right about that. I wonder how long it will take them to run back home?

sylviebee · ‎07-04-2017

Me too. Blocked out of Snap Ship.

We like our online routines to be mindless rote responses so any change feels disruptive, but shippo's not bad after that initial "Yuck" reaction.

For Tracked Packet to the US it was about $1.50 less than the current non discounted PP rate.

dutchman48 · ‎07-04-2017

@mjwl2006 wrote:
Also, it says my label was 'Created July 4'. Today is still July 3 in all parts of Canada so I cannot imagine what they are referring to with July 4. Someone has some explaining to do.

Maybe they don't count holidays but use the next day?Try it on a Sunday to see what you get?

I don't use any of them as I am a stamp user and take everything else to my PO. It is a very tiny outlet but if we lose it, will cause major issues as to traveling time. It needs the support

lady.stark · ‎07-07-2017

@lady.stark wrote:
@ypdc_dennis wrote:

Sample: 0-250g, 21x16x2cm, Ontario province to New York state

* $ 8.61 - Small Packet (over the counter)
* $ 8.49 - Small Packet (PayPal or CP EST)
* $ 7.22 - Small Packet (CP Snap Ship until July 31)
* $ 7.05 - Small Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

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This is strange... I don't understand why I did not get the same price you did with Shippo last time I tried to print a label to the US. My price was something like $8.04... for a package under 250 grams, about 32x27x1 cm.

Had a package to ship this morning and I found out why the rate was not the same. I entered a value in the "insurance" section thinking it was like PayPal where you have to specify the value. So the additional $1 was for insurance. So for now, with a difference of only CAD $0.21 between Light and Small packet, I can live with Shippo. 😉

ypdc_dennis · ‎08-01-2017

August 1 update (now that the Canada Post 15% special discount disappears)

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Rate comparisons to USA

Lettermail (stamped rate) and Light Packet (over-the-counter only).

051-100g .. 2.95 O/S lettermail
101-200g .. 5.15 O/S lettermail
000-200g .. 6.84 Light Packet
201-300g .. 8.60 Light Packet
Small Packet is a better choice for weights above 300g

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Labels directly from PayPal will use your Solutions for Small Business discount making it the same as Canada Post EST or Snap Ship. SfSB tier 1 rates shown.

...

Sample: 0-250g, 21x16x2cm, Ontario province to New York state

* $ 8.61 - Small Packet (over the counter)
* $ 8.49 - Small Packet (PayPal or CP EST or CP Snap Ship)
* $ 7.05 - Small Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

* $17.26 - Tracked Packet (over the counter)
* $16.25 - Tracked Packet (PayPal or CP EST or CP Snap Ship)

* $14.71 - Tracked Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

* $20.24 - Expedited Parcel (over the counter)
* $19.02 - Expedited Parcel (PayPal or CP EST or CP Snap Ship)

* $17.37 - Expedited Parcel (eBay.ca via Shippo)

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Sample: 251-500g, 21x16x2cm, Ontario province to New York state

* $11.29 - Small Packet (over the counter)
* $11.15 - Small Packet (PayPal or CP EST or CP Snap Ship)
* $ 9.25 - Small Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

* $18.70 - Tracked Packet (over the counter)
* $17.52 - Tracked Packet (PayPal or CP EST or CP Snap Ship)
* $15.85 - Tracked Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

* $20.24 - Expedited Parcel (over the counter)
* $19.02 - Expedited Parcel (PayPal or CP EST or CP Snap Ship)
* $17.37 - Expedited Parcel (eBay.ca via Shippo)

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Sample: 501g-1.0kg, 21x16x2cm, Ontario province to New York state

* $16.82 - Small Packet (over the counter)
* $16.60 - Small Packet (PayPal or CP EST or CP Snap Ship)
* $13.78 - Small Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

* $21.25 - Tracked Packet (over the counter)
* $19.96 - Tracked Packet (PayPal or CP EST or CP Snap Ship)
* $18.05 - Tracked Packet (eBay.ca via Shippo)

* $21.80 - Expedited Parcel (over the counter)
* $20.53 - Expedited Parcel (PayPal or CP EST or CP Snap Ship)
* $18.75 - Expedited Parcel (eBay.ca via Shippo)

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markiku · ‎10-08-2017

has anyone else`s Shippo prices come down a few cents in the last week ?

Also free shipping on snap ship on Tuesdays this month (October) for domestic shipping only

Free CP pick up also

momcqueen · ‎10-08-2017

A fluctuating price of a few cents might be a fuel tax shift. Some of the parcel prices include that fuel surcharge but I don't recall which services those might be. ydpc_dennis always knows more about that.

pocomocomputing · ‎10-08-2017

@mjwl2006 wrote:
A fluctuating price of a few cents might be a fuel tax shift. Some of the parcel prices include that fuel surcharge but I don't recall which services those might be. ydpc_dennis always knows more about that.

Canada Post fuel surcharges rates did change for the current month on October 2 but went up, not down, for October compared to September. So not likely this is a reason for markiku observation that they went down.

https://www.canadapost.ca/web/en/kb/details.page?article=fuel_surcharges_on_m&cattype=kb&cat=sending...