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Despite my reservations about the matter, I opted to add Best Offer to virtually all my listings before Christmas to stimulate dismal sales performance. I'm pleased to report it helped stimulate sales as I hoped it would.

 

Here are my thoughts. Please bear in mind I'm not claiming to have run any tests, experiments or drawn conclusions. These are my thoughts only, offered for discussion or your general entertainment. 

 

  • Certain buyers really like Best Offer. (Duh.) Others will skip it just to make their purchase and go. They don't want to wait around and fuss back-and-forth with asking price. 
  • Almost 80 per cent of buyers will offer half the asking price or less regardless of the item being already substantially marked down or not.
  • A seller really has to 'get over' the people who think it's totally cool to make an offer of $5 on an item selling for $100. Thick skin helps. I am learning to stifle the swear words that bubble forth when this happens. It is a work in progress. Decline decline decline.
  • Some would-be buyers cannot take 'no' for an answer and if you add Auto-Decline to that listing, will find a similar one of yours and keep offering less than you'd dream of accepting.
  • Expect at least a few rude messages when you decline those crazy lowball offers. It's best not to engage those people. Move on, eyerolling optional.
  • Changing your handling time will wipe away all your Auto-Decline and Auto-Accept settings for no good reason. Still. I found this during the summer and reported it as a bug and it hasn't been fixed yet.
  • Many Canadian buyers have zero concept of the cost of included postage in an asking price and will happily offer a seller $10 for an item with included postage when postage to their postal code alone will cost $15. That, or they think the Canada Post Fairy has been along and that shipping really is magically free. And that the Shopping Fairy made the item free too while the giveaways were going around.
  • Less than two per cent of my buyers will entertain a counter-offer. They either want it for the lowball offer they submit or they don't. There is no negotiating. Most counteroffers will be ignored. A vast majority will be promptly declined and no more offers forthcoming.
  • The 'blocked buyer' list is a seller's best friend. I see something of a correlation between Best Offer buyers and a lot of nasty Feedback Left For Others that would concern any seller. 

I decided early that if the Best Offer is even remotely close to what I might consider the very lowest end of acceptable if I were absolutely desperate, it's take it or leave it. At least in my sector of sales, there is little point to a counteroffer, it only prolongs the process and ties up what you can revise in a listings while the buyer lets the counteroffer time-out without responding. 

 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Very true on your thoughts
Most if not all my listings have best offers and have to say its unreal the offers I get I think its more then 80% that offer less then have priced on items.
Even on shipping for high value items buyers think Canada Post is cheap. Canada post was once decent in costs for shipping items but not any more and buyers think that we are just over charging on the shipping
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I think it's safe to generalize that a majority of Canadian buyers have no idea what postage really costs or how expensive it truly is in comparison to domestic USA. I know I didn't until I became a seller and had to make it my business to learn. 

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The offers that I get on items where postage is included rarely cover the cost of postage alone.

 

And then the buyers who made that way-too-low offer are all offended that it's been declined, thinking that it costs only $5 to mail instead of $15 or $18. 

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Reviving this thread with an on-point discussion from the one and only online se;lying blog out there:

 

http://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2017/3/1489679512.html

 

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Note: Read the Comments section. 

 

 

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Massive typo above. It should say, '....from the one and only online selling blog..."

 

My apologies. 

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If I was going to decline a reasonable offer, it would be for items that I did state in the listing that I would only accept lower offer for multiple purchases, but I'd also mention it in the notes I use to decline offers...

But yeah, declining $160 for a $165 item seems a bit meaningless. Might as well not include best offer.
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The only thing I can think is that the item wasn't really $165 as in maybe it was $325 on markdown to $165 and that was as close to rock bottom as the seller was prepared to go.

If you're use Markdown Manager and Best Offer together, eBay doesn't allow you to remove Best Offer if a sale has been made at any point on the listing. Even if it's something that didn't sell with Best Offer. It's an oversight.

So as a seller you might have marked it down but if you have one of three left, you cannot eliminate BO even though you've put it on 60 per cent off sale.
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The only solution is to not use Best Offer at all, not use Markdown Manager on BO listings, or to end the listing and lose your Sales History as well as Watchers.
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Yes this has caused consternation to myself before because a person makes an offer, and I compare the offer against the price it shows which is the on sale price.

Fortunately my "process" is that all original item prices are priced .99c at the end so if it is on sale it very rarely remains .99c at the end or it is a weird number (I like 9.99, 12.99, 14.99, 19.99 etc...).
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Right. I too use a number with the original price ending in a numeral five so that I have quick reference to items that include free domestic shipping. Those by nature have less wiggle room for Best Offer if the offer is made by a resident of Canada with shipping set to Canada.
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I use Notes to tell me when items were first listed, when they move from FP to auction (or vice versa) when they are relisted.

But I keep a paper list of customers for some products, such as postage lots.

 

I'm old. I don't trust these dang machines.

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That's why I "leave it till it sells".... sold 3 items a few days ago that had been running since 2008 !!!!
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