eBay

lotzofuniquegoodies · ‎09-01-2025

Watch your eBay emails for the following. Mine arrived overnight. Personally not ready to test something this far in advance.

You may be enrolled in eBay International Shipping starting in October

Dear Seller,

Starting in October 2025, eligible listings on eBay.ca and CAFR.eBay.ca may be automatically enrolled in the eBay International Shipping program. Sellers will receive a notification when they are fully enrolled.

Enrollment in eBay International Shipping does not replace any existing policies you have in place for particular markets. Buyers in those markets will be able to choose from your existing shipping policy and eBay International Shipping.

If you would like to opt out of the program before it launches, you can do so here. If you would like to opt out of the program after you have been enrolled, or edit your country exclusions, you can do so through the Shipping Preferences page on My eBay.

https://www.ebay.ca/srv/survey/a/eis-optout

Your mission, if you wish to accept it is to confirm this can or will work for you!!!

As a side, I recently spotted a discussion post from a US seller having issues with eIS and their business policies being in conflict. This could potenially be a major problem if this is the case.

lotzofuniquegoodies · ‎09-01-2025

@john_koenig99 wrote:
@sylviebee wrote:

The simplest thing would be for eBay to precollect tariffs the same way they precollect taxes.

I can see a big flaw in your idea of eBay "simply" collecting tariffs at checkout. They will be reliying 100% in the sellers information about the item's description and COO. What if it's wrong? What if it's actually made in China, instead of Canada? Who is going to pay the difference, if it gets rejected by CBP?

I think the idea of EIS is also for eBay to inspect every item going through their hub (as in the case of the US service) to make sure it's complaint and it's legal to be exported from the country, to its final destination.

@john_koenig99

@sylviebee

Important to remember, for now the seller pays any tariff and processing fees. If eBay were to do that we would be paying FVF's for that ummm service. Thanks but no thanks. As per @john_koenig99 customs people are better trained plus have access to actual goods when they pass through at the border. I personally wouldn't want me seller fees or my VISA be on speed payment for these automagic newly invented charges. And I don't even want to think about the transparency of any billing involved.

Anyone know from personally shopping via eIS from USA where duties etc are paid in advance do you get a paper bill on delivery? I know with couriers if it is paid on delivery you get a receipt or as being reported, bill comes as surprise in the mail at a later date.

vintage_america · ‎09-01-2025

With UPS we don’t pay the tariffs. Buyer does. But they get hit with massive brokerage fees as well, sometimes higher than the tariffs, and that has already resulted in chargebacks so I won’t be using UPS.

I don’t know why Canada Post caved to us paying the tariffs with zonos . Just seems WRONG. And it’s not even working properly.

I’m staying in vacation mode until something changes, because it can’t continue this way for long.

msau4301 · ‎09-01-2025

@codacloset wrote:
I believe the items will be sent to a hub in the GTA. One of the reasons you could give for opting out of the program was something to the effect of 'shipping costs to the GTA being too high'.

I live in the GTA so shipping costs would be low for me at least. It's the higher price buyers would see, the unknown of how many kinks would be in place when eIS first starts up here, versus pre-paying the tariffs myself (or trying to learn how the Zonos app works). For now I'm continuing to take a back seat and wait it out.

silverpinups · ‎09-01-2025

"Anyone know from personally shopping via eIS from USA where duties etc are paid in advance do you get a paper bill on delivery? I know with couriers if it is paid on delivery you get a receipt or as being reported, bill comes as surprise in the mail at a later date".

I shop frequently using eIS and there is no paper bill on delivery. DHL processes the customs fees and you get an email with what is owing. Once I pay, I print off a DHL invoice for my records. Fedex bills you several weeks later.

I am looking forward to eIS coming to Canada. My items are more expensive so the extra costs can be justified. Sellers selling 1.00-20.00 items might not be worth it. Canada Post's solution to the tariff situation is horrible.

sylviebee · ‎09-01-2025

The idea that packages should be inspected to ensure that they contain what the seller says they contain makes no sense to me.

EBay is pre-charging taxes so why would pre-charging tariffs be any different? It’s just another tax. Sellers can’t lie about what’s in the package because it’s right there in the item description the same way the selling price is clear.

Even if the seller wanted to fudge, how would that even be possible with an eBay item? Also, why would a seller lie? The buyer is paying the tariff, not the seller. No one lies for me and I can’t imagine why they would. The tariff is the same one way or the other, and if a buyer asks the seller to lie that buyer is immediately black listed (it just doesn’t happen).

Also, imagine if customs started to inspect packages? They’d have to hire hundreds of “inspectors” and build bigger buildings where they could do that work. Think of the countless items they’d damage in the process (just as the GSP did). My items are so well packaged (coming and going) they'd have to spend half an hour unpackaging and repackaging just one item.

When I first started buying on eBay a small handful of packages were opened (maybe 2%), but they haven’t opened packages in about a decade and I’ve had perhaps a thousand deliveries.

Moreover, if they did open packages to make sure tariffs were accurate, what then? I suppose they’d contact the buyer to pay more, but so what? There are far bigger crimes that are being ignored because they don’t have the manpower to enforce them.

Just makes no sense to open packages on so many levels.

shallow_karl · ‎09-01-2025

It's a big shot in the dark, like China thinking stronger trade pacts with Russia could even begin to replace U.S. purchases, which it can't. The average American has 2-3 TIMES the disposable income of any other country, aside from some cloistered Middle Eastern oil economies. Europe, which as the same (roughly) GDP and overall population as the U.S. keeps all the money in the hands of the governments so the people have very little say in where it is spent.

transtraders · ‎09-01-2025

I can see in the distant (may not so distant?) future that eBay is turning itself into Amazon's FBA model. We just send stuff into their warehouse and they sell it for us. Then eventually Amazon just buys eBay and thats the end of it. I hope this never happens because we need comptetion to have a healthy marketplace, but thats the feeling I am getting from all this.

nhl_automotive · ‎09-01-2025

I think some people are misunderstanding the point of EIS Canada. It's mainly being created so we can ship to the USA again with the tariffs and duties being prepaid by the buyer. And that's the part Americans don't understand either. Many are still believing that they don't have to pay tariffs, that it is the seller doing it. But with the exception of Hong Kong, most countries collect tariffs and duties when an item is imported. The biggest problem will be getting Americans used to the idea and paying say $30 shipping now that includes all the duties and tariffs when they were used to $10 on a small item. Also, eBay Canada is going to need to make a similar deal with Canada Post that they did with them for US bound items. $20 to ship a small box from the west coast or east of Canada to the EIS in Ontario isn't good enough. It's going to need to be $10 at most or sellers from outside of Ontario won't be able to compete.

ilikehockeyjerseys · ‎09-01-2025

I am not sure that I see the downside to opting in if the buyer has the option to select either your self-fulfilled rate or your eIS rate.

The only issue I can think of, which was brought up in another thread, is if there isn't a separate rate table for shipping to eIS. They plan to charge eIS buyers a postage rate that is your domestic rate + the eIS international rate. If shipping to the eIS hub requires tracking to remain compliant with their selling standards, and your domestic rate is based on lettermail, it makes it impossible to use eIS for most people.

My only fear is that eBay uses eIS as an excuse not to integrate duties at checkout and Zonos like Shopify already has. This would be a major misstep. Especially for people who sell items that are duty free like media, shipping to the USA for $7-$20 via discounted tracked packet is going to be both faster and cheaper than eIS. Maybe I am naive, but I'm hoping eBay is putting in the work to reinstate Canada Post shipping as soon as this week with Zonos.

silverpinups · ‎09-01-2025

"I think some people are misunderstanding the point of EIS Canada. It's mainly being created so we can ship to the USA again with the tariffs and duties being prepaid by the buyer".

BINGO!!

ilikehockeyjerseys · ‎09-01-2025

Shopify has Zonos integrated at checkout now. Which leads me to believe that eBay should be able to do the same thing. So the eIS isn't needed for that.

This being a possibility wasn't known a week or two ago when we were all speculating. Having zome sort of direct Zonos integration so that duties can be calculated at checkout would be very important. My hope is that they are on top of that and don't just intend to force everybody to use the eIS for US shipping, which would be very inefficient.

My opinion, the value of the eIS is opening up international destinations to those unable or unwilling to deal with the complexities of shipping outside of US and Canada.

sylviebee · ‎09-01-2025

"""Anyone know from personally shopping via eIS from USA where duties etc are paid in advance do you get a paper bill on delivery? I know with couriers if it is paid on delivery you get a receipt or as being reported, bill comes as surprise in the mail at a later date. """"

When using eBay Internaional shipping duty is charged exactly the same way they bill other taxes. There's no additional paperwork.

Also, I've never known couriers to send a bill after delivery. Couriers give you a choice of pre-paying or collecting at the door. I always prepay couriers but when I missed that window I've never received other paperwork after the fact.

nhl_automotive · ‎09-01-2025

They could do it if they wanted but they are opting with EIS just like they do in the US. It's actually better this way because once the item is shipped, you don't need to worry about returns, INADs, or anything really. It's like a built in insurance policy for sellers in Canada. Now what the final cost is, that's another story. Shipping prices for international buyers will go up . But they won't need to worry about any surprise fees when they get the item and it should pass through customs fairly quickly.

mandicrafts · ‎09-01-2025

I am eager to see the new EIS in action.
Right now, the only way to ship to the USA is prepaying tariffs with no way to collect them from the buyers. And if we use Chit Chats DDP, it only works if the item has the Made in xxxx tag/label and we have a manufacturers address. The Canada Post Zonos way, is via Snap Ship which is vastly more expensive for the shipping label than eBay Canada labels for CP with their great discounts for Tracked Pkt US. I hope to regain some US buyers with this new solution without me paying their tariffs!
I currently ship directly to many overseas destinations but I also block many. Though the overseas reach with EIS will be only a select few countries at first, perhaps it will open up later to more countries that I currently block/won't ship to. And eBay takes care of all the issues once my parcel will be delivered to the depot in Mississauga.
It's just that this only applies to listings on .ca.
I am in the process of moving my .com to .ca but it is slow and tedious. And I cannot block the USA for my items on .com
This is all very concerning when my customer base was 95% USA. I have had 2 UK orders since all this started and I cannot pay rent with just 2 sales. I need my US buyers back!!!!!

silverpinups · ‎09-01-2025

"My opinion, the value of the eIS is opening up international destinations to those unable or unwilling to deal with the complexities of shipping outside of US and Canada".

Yes, this is an extra bonus for me since I quit selling outside of North America many years ago. Hopefully eIS has competitive rates for International shipping (unless we have to determine shipping cost). Shipping a single photograph, Tracked Packet-International varies, but at a 40.00 usd shipping charge I'm barely breaking even.

burning_moon_video · ‎09-01-2025

But good luck getting US buyers to pay the insane eIS shipping charges and making them wait 6 weeks for their order to arrive. Ebay NEEDS to integrate Canada Post with Zonos at checkout and we need the discount US shipping labels back ASAP. It's the best option for buyers and sellers, especially if you're selling duty free items. I can't see any benifits of the eIS program when selling items that aren't charged duties (media, CUSMA-compliant, etc).

john_koenig99 · ‎09-01-2025

@burning_moon_video wrote:
But good luck getting US buyers to pay the insane eIS shipping charges and making them wait 6 weeks for their order to arrive. Ebay NEEDS to integrate Canada Post with Zonos at checkout and we need the discount US shipping labels back ASAP. It's the best option for buyers and sellers, especially if you're selling duty free items. I can't see any benifits of the eIS program when selling items that aren't charged duties (media, CUSMA-compliant, etc).

To each their own. I sell vintage electronics and watches, most of them made in Japan. So they will pay duty and tariffs, under the oompa-loompa scheme.

If there's no functional eIS from Canada, I just won't sell to Americans anymore.

john_koenig99 · ‎09-01-2025

@sylviebee wrote:

Also, I've never known couriers to send a bill after delivery. Couriers give you a choice of pre-paying or collecting at the door. I always prepay couriers but when I missed that window I've never received other paperwork after the fact.

Actually, FedEx does it. I've had a couple of orders from Japan which got delivered at my door without any prepayment or COD required. And then, a month later or so, I got the duty/brokerage bills in the mail.

lotzofuniquegoodies · ‎09-01-2025

@mandicrafts wrote:
I am eager to see the new EIS in action.
Right now, the only way to ship to the USA is prepaying tariffs with no way to collect them from the buyers. And if we use Chit Chats DDP, it only works if the item has the Made in xxxx tag/label and we have a manufacturers address. The Canada Post Zonos way, is via Snap Ship which is vastly more expensive for the shipping label than eBay Canada labels for CP with their great discounts for Tracked Pkt US. I hope to regain some US buyers with this new solution without me paying their tariffs!
I currently ship directly to many overseas destinations but I also block many. Though the overseas reach with EIS will be only a select few countries at first, perhaps it will open up later to more countries that I currently block/won't ship to. And eBay takes care of all the issues once my parcel will be delivered to the depot in Mississauga.
It's just that this only applies to listings on .ca.
I am in the process of moving my .com to .ca but it is slow and tedious. And I cannot block the USA for my items on .com
This is all very concerning when my customer base was 95% USA. I have had 2 UK orders since all this started and I cannot pay rent with just 2 sales. I need my US buyers back!!!!!

@mandicrafts

To consolidate and send to Chit Chats sounds like adding extra handling to the process. Each time it's with someone else it creates the chance of either damage or going possibly where it shouldn't. It could work if you had a bunch of smaller type items but super risky if they are heavy/bulky/fragile. The quickest distance between 2 points is usually a straight line. Very likely why eIS from USA extends transit time to Canadian's as much as it does. The other elephant in the room is eIS has never been able to truly grasp the concept of combined shipping (from 1 seller). Unsure if it would any better implemented for Canadians.

eIS Canada sounds like Risky Business without the music!!!

lotzofuniquegoodies · ‎09-01-2025

@john_koenig99 wrote:
@sylviebee wrote:

Also, I've never known couriers to send a bill after delivery. Couriers give you a choice of pre-paying or collecting at the door. I always prepay couriers but when I missed that window I've never received other paperwork after the fact.
Actually, FedEx does it. I've had a couple of orders from Japan which got delivered at my door without any prepayment or COD required. And then, a month later or so, I got the duty/brokerage bills in the mail.

@john_koenig99

@sylviebee

During the inbetween phase of this gong show some of us call illegal tariffs from others that have reported back, when using UPS if there were any fees owed at time of delivery and receiver refused to pay the sender gets the bill. In many situations UPS pays on behalf of the receiver (normal old world circumstances). They want their funds...from someone. With eBay labels they have your account info so they just turn around and bill it back to you. If a parcel does happen to get returned to you you again could get billed for any costs involved. Why their preference is wanting you to have an account. Easy peasy....for them!!!