
02-04-2025 06:02 PM
This ruling affects items made in China but includes forwarded from other countries. It's a lot to digest but important to be educated on the topic going forward.
This was just passed on to me via the DYK Facebook page. Announced earlier today for ALL items made in China/Hong Kong forwarded to the USA. Ground and Air freight. Confirmed by voice with DYK phone number blacked out/ You can find on their facebook page. More details to follow from them later this evening. The same rules will be enforced for CP and other couriers.
A formal entry will be required for anything made in the China/Hong Kong. New or used. Shipped to the USA. 10 % duties will be applied. This will require a broker. The nightmare that never ends!!!
Because I personally sell in a number of different categories many of my items are manufactured in China. This includes, electronics, books and tools. As far as I know there is no known way to differenciate listings by country of origin.
Posting this for your information only. Your circumstances may not be applicable.
See Reuters story below posted yesterday.
US says packages from China to face formal customs entry under new tariffs. WASHINGTON, Feb 3 (Reuters) - Mailed packages from China must undergo formal customs entry under new tariffs scheduled to be implemented on Tuesday, according to a notice from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection posted online on Monday.22 hours ago
Added back up.
From CP:
Bonus search: "new rules shipping to usa items made in china"
02-04-2025 06:46 PM - edited 02-04-2025 07:03 PM
What is the short of this for people using traditional carriers like Canada Post, UPS, or Fedex rather than Stallion or Chit Chats?
For example, Johnny Garagesale wants to sell a used action figure on eBay and ship it from Canada to the USA. That action figure was originally made in China.
-Does the above mean that it's impossible without an exhaustive list of documents?
-Or will Canada Post, UPS, or Fedex still take it with the standard HS Code, and deal with the brokerage process?
02-04-2025 07:07 PM
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
Because I personally sell in a number of different categories many of my items are manufactured in China. This includes, electronics, books and tools. As far as I know there is no known way to differenciate listings by country of origin.
I'm creating some separate shipping policies for countries that I think might be affected and adding those policies to the applicable listings. That way I can easily make adjustments as necessary with minimal pain. I'm also adding some text to my listings to make clear that there could be tariffs and that they are the buyer's responsibility.
02-04-2025 07:10 PM
@flipistics wrote:
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
Because I personally sell in a number of different categories many of my items are manufactured in China. This includes, electronics, books and tools. As far as I know there is no known way to differenciate listings by country of origin.
I'm creating some separate shipping policies for countries that I think might be affected and adding those policies to the applicable listings. That way I can easily make adjustments as necessary with minimal pain. I'm also adding some text to my listings to make clear that there could be tariffs and that they are the buyer's responsibility.
I'm going to move my tariffed items to the Canadian site (some of these items can probably be shipped in an envelope with stamps, I know that's not allowed, but it literally is printed matter that I'm selling in these cases...)
If Stallion is collecting tariffs from the shipper I might leave some items up on the dot com site. It kind of depends whether or not I want to pay tariffs. China tariffs are supposed to be 100% in five years, so before long there will be no point in selling any Chinese goods.
C.
02-04-2025 07:21 PM
The used toys would be expented since they aren't in current production and shipped out of China . Again Orange butterball 45/47 is a clueless boob about enconomecs and how tariffs work.
02-04-2025 10:11 PM
@flipistics wrote:
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
Because I personally sell in a number of different categories many of my items are manufactured in China. This includes, electronics, books and tools. As far as I know there is no known way to differenciate listings by country of origin.
I'm creating some separate shipping policies ..
Do you mean you create separate policy with a shipping optiont hat has longer delivery days. Is this what you mean? Is there anything in shipping policies about tariffs? That would be new.
02-04-2025 10:18 PM - edited 02-04-2025 10:19 PM
@sin-n-dex wrote:
@flipistics wrote:
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
Because I personally sell in a number of different categories many of my items are manufactured in China. This includes, electronics, books and tools. As far as I know there is no known way to differenciate listings by country of origin.
I'm creating some separate shipping policies for countries that I think might be affected and adding those policies to the applicable listings. That way I can easily make adjustments as necessary with minimal pain. I'm also adding some text to my listings to make clear that there could be tariffs and that they are the buyer's responsibility.
China tariffs are supposed to be 100% in five years, so before long there will be no point in selling any Chinese goods.
C.
You mean this here right, I didn't see this... wow.........
According to the proposed Act, a wide range of Chinese products will face a 100% tariff. They include chemicals, drugs, nuclear reactors and parts, steam turbines and parts, agricultural and construction equipment, industrial robots, motors and engines, unmanned aircraft, consumer electronic products and weapons. Other products will face a 35% tariff.
If the Act is passed and enacted, tariff hikes will be fully implemented in five years. Two years after the enactment, 25% of the total duty increase shall apply. Four years after the enactment, 50% of the total duty increase shall apply.
https://asiatimes.com/2025/01/while-trump-dithers-us-lawmakers-push-100-tariff-on-china/
02-04-2025 10:51 PM - edited 02-04-2025 10:52 PM
It's my understanding China and Trump will be negotiating new terms sometime later this week before China's own tariffs are employed.
02-04-2025 10:59 PM
@itolduandso wrote:
@flipistics wrote:
@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:
Because I personally sell in a number of different categories many of my items are manufactured in China. This includes, electronics, books and tools. As far as I know there is no known way to differenciate listings by country of origin.
I'm creating some separate shipping policies ..
Do you mean you create separate policy with a shipping optiont hat has longer delivery days. Is this what you mean? Is there anything in shipping policies about tariffs? That would be new.
Not longer delivery times, it just allows me to sort listings based on a handful of country of origins. Then, if one gets hit with tariffs or whatever else, I can easily exclude that country. It's a bit of a pain now, but it could make things easier later.
It would also help if eBay allowed us to search our listings by country of origin.
02-04-2025 11:08 PM - edited 02-04-2025 11:10 PM
I did that yesterday. I have 12 shipping policies numbered 1-12 so they keep their order. When I'm listing they appear in order in the drop down so I can't accidentally apply the wrong policy. Most of my items use only 3 of them.
For big heavy , insured UPS items only for sale to the lower 48 states I printed the biz policies out before editting them. When it's time to revert I'll have the original policy so there won't be any fuss over forgotton incorrect parameters.
The one policy that almost got messed up was for knives. They can be sold to the US and some other places but not to the UK. I don't have many so I just deleted Int shipping instead of trying to orchestrate the excluded countries.
If you have some complex ones that took you a lot of tweaking I recommend saving them as a PDF or hard copy first. eBay's system was very stable for the most part but it did generate some new random policies. Because of the 1-12 numbering at the beginning of the descrptions anything eBay's witchcraft concocts can be spotted right away.
02-05-2025 12:01 AM
Hi. Please ignore anything redundant. I know you have a lot of knowledge but for others it's in here.
Everyone seems to have their own strategy so I can only offer mine. I do not use third partie shippers either as they aren't available here. Before eBay releases a seller update my approach is this. No one actualy knows the mechanics of this. We do not know for sure any tariffs will be employed. All of the information is either preliminary or it is hersey. Trump has backlash and an agenda. Let's see what actually transpires.
I have my reasons for my strategy. We're all different. I can wait until things stablaize. In the meantime we can still sell domestically and around the rest of the world. I've excuded the USA which is my main market. I may open up easy categories like ephemera before big things like drum sets etc. If you use Canada Post eBay will make an announcement when they actually know what the US customs changes are. When they do, if things in the US appear stable I will re-open the US fully. We are all under eBay's umbrella. When they figure it out and adjust their system they will say so. It looks like they have to gove clarification on Chinese made listings very soon.
I'm not sure what province you're in. Our provincial government (BC) is supposed to put out their annual budget a day or 2 before the "Now your see them, Now you don't tariffs on March 4th. Premier Eby announced today they have no idea how that possible unless they have concrete tariff details. If the govt can't be sure how can we?
Let's say tariffs are applied on March 4. The main information for the customs form shaould allready be on your eBay labels. To apply tariff's customs will want the Harmonized tax number of the item but now they will want the full number.
eBay has so far only required 6 digits. That will likely change to a larger number to more clearly ID the item for it's duty category. . For example an advertising catalog is something like 4911.10 If it's made out of paper. If it's made out of plastic or something a bigger number like 4911.90.11 might be needed. (made up numbers) The full numbers are already listed on the major Harmonized lists for all the couriers.
You will need to enter the Country Of Origin (COO) which is the country the item was made in (not the country the item was shipped from ) IE: Made In China. Documents proving origins like manufacturer's invoices may be needed for some items. I don't think the details are clear enough yet. I'm not worried about that. I think they may restrict manufacturers invoices to newly made items but eBay will clarify that. You can always separate items for domestic sales only if necessary. In my lifetime I've only been pressed to prove a country of origin once. It was for an unmarked wool blanket that was used as a bass drum deadener. I told customs to destroy it. Problem solved.
For those who would like to see proper customs papers and how easy the system is I recommend opening an account with Shippo. It's free and they sell Canada Post labels. Maybe you've used them before for USPS return labels. I haven't been to their site for awhile but they had a very good system for easy customs document processing.
Everyone has to decide for themselves just how to move forward. For me this is an opportunity to focus on and boost my domestic and Euro sales. I hope the US stabalizes soon but I don't see that happening. There's a lot more going on down there than tarrifs.
02-05-2025 02:10 PM
for what it's worth, i've checked 2 Canada Post orders with Chinese-made items shipped monday that were processed last night (4th FEb) around 9pm in NY and now with USPS no issues (so far).
Waiting on one more CPC to be accepted to Customs today and another via FedEx to see how it's handled...
All the above had proper HS codes, descriptions, and origins. NO further paperwork than was required at time of mailing.