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06-01-2017 09:07 AM - edited 06-01-2017 09:07 AM
This is what I was told on chat:
I list on .com in US and on .ca in Can.
I want to set up discounts for US items in $US on .com and I want to set up totally different discounts for Can items in Can $ on .ca.
They are different products and the discounts have to be different on each site for different products.
Is that possible?
No it's not.
As I mentioned in my first response, the combined shipping discount works based on "currency" and not site. You choose the currency, and the discount gets applied to that currency and on the corresponding site. E.g. choose USD, then the discount gets applied to the US listed items on the US site.
So, the way I read this is if you list on both sites, which are completely different and use different currencies, you can not set up separate discounts for each site in it's currency.
That is because Ebay ties the discount to only 1 currency per ID.
That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard since they are 2 totally different sites and your listings are in different currencies.
It appears sellers again are being severely disadvantages for no logical reason and buyers are being punished for not being able to use combined shipping discounts on each site.
Maybe that is what Ebay wants so they can collect more fees and Paypal will also benefit financially as they do not refund the 30¢ transaction fees.
This whole scenario makes it almost pointless to list different items on each site unless you don't want to use combined shipping on 1 site.
Maybe Ebay in the long run will eliminate this and force sellers to use other ID's and stores to set up combined shipping for each currency.
I really can't see why it would be so difficult to be able to set up combined shipping separate on each site as they are different sites.
Comments please
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06-01-2017 11:07 AM
Do Canadian sellers listing and selling on Amazon (both .ca in Cdn$ and .com in US$) have the ability to offer combined shipping discount?
Is there one site anywhere in the world allowing sellers selling in different currencies and combining shipping discount?
Honestly, I cannot think of any.
Maybe you are looking at something that is either technically impossible to program or it would be very expensive to put together with so few sellers using it.
eBay has tens of millions of sellers worldwide. How many sell in two (or more) currencies? How many of those offer shipping discount? I bet you it is less than 1/100 of one percent. In other words, not worth their while.

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06-01-2017 11:48 AM - edited 06-01-2017 11:49 AM
@dutchman48 wrote:
So, the way I read this is if you list on both sites, which are completely different and use different currencies, you can not set up separate discounts for each site in it's currency.
That is because Ebay ties the discount to only 1 currency per ID.
You've understood it correctly. It appears that we Canadian sellers who list on both sites have three choices:
1) Choose one of the currencies (presumably the "busiest" one) for your automated discounts, and let buyers in the other currency use "Request Total". When one of the reps did a test recently by putting a few of my .ca ($CDN) items in the cart, he was able to use the "Request Total" button to ask for an adjusted invoice.
The real problem is for Canadian sellers who don't clearly have more sales in one currency or the other. Then you just have to choose one currency over the other if you want to set up automated discounts.
2) Give up on automated discounts entirely -- apparently then the "Request Total" feature will then work for all buyers, no matter what site/currency they are using.
3) List on one site only, set up automated discounts, and hope your buyers never need to ask for an adjusted invoice (or remove the discounts entirely).
At the moment, I have an automated "free shipping for 4 items" discount set up for $USD (I've always sold more than 90% to the U.S.), but of course that discount won't work for my occasional Canadian buyers -- they have to use "Request Total". This is really not that bad a result for me personally.
However, what to my mind is a far worse problem is what occurs when my U.S. buyers do want to get an adjusted total from me -- for example if they only buy 3 items. The "Request Total" button is still shown on the cart/checkout process, but it doesn't work. Not only does it not function, but it leads to a red error screen telling the customer that "This seller has disallowed combined shipping" (you've no doubt seen my posts with the screen shot of that error page). That is really bad business on eBay's part, and has doubtless sent buyers away in disgust. This is what I refer to as one of eBay's "silent sales killers" for Canadian sellers.
What upsets me is that this has evidently been going on for months, without most sellers being aware of it, and with nary a peep from eBay about it. I've brought this up with the eBay Canada rep I was communicating with lately, and he has said eBay will be looking into disabling that "Request Total" button where the feature is actually not available.
Now, a partial solution (in my case at least, because I sell mainly to the U.S.) is to attempt to set up as many automated and flat rate discounts as possible to cover as many potential order scenarios as possible. I've tried this. It's horribly difficult to do on .com with flat rate shipping and items of varying weights and sizes. I removed the ones I'd set up because they were causing more problems than they were solving. However, if a seller lists exclusively on .ca (in $CDN) and uses calculated shipping, this is a reasonable option. Of course, then you're not dealing with listing on two different sites anyway.
I agree with Pierre that the seller demand for identical dual site functionality in this respect is probably low overall. However, eBay did set itself up as a multi-national venue, and many sellers like to be able to list on more than one site (for example, some might want to list on .uk).
Personally I think eBay should have made universal checkout a top priority years ago, or -- what many online sites have done -- oblige everyone to list in $US and deal with currency conversion at the point of sale.
As I've said previously, checkout and payment flow seems to have been a problem eBay has never been able to fully solve. They need to solve it, one way or another.
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06-01-2017 12:48 PM
So, I've just had further information on this subject in a message from one of the eBay Canada reps ('a.depour').
I'm just going to post it here, without comment, and hopefully at next Wednesday's Board session we can get clarification.
"Also, I was able to confirm that you actually can have separate CSDs on .COM and .CA. You need to log into my.ebay.com and my.ebay.ca and go to the shipping preferences and set up CSD for each site (in one currency)."
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06-01-2017 12:59 PM
@rose-dee wrote:At the moment, I have an automated "free shipping for 4 items" discount set up for $USD
This is a little bit out of topic, but can I ask where you can set this up? I've been searching for it but didn't find anything. The only discounts I found were stuff like "Buy X, get X% off", "Buy X, get one free", etc.
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06-01-2017 01:13 PM
@pierrelebel wrote:Do Canadian sellers listing and selling on Amazon (both .ca in Cdn$ and .com in US$) have the ability to offer combined shipping discount?
Is there one site anywhere in the world allowing sellers selling in different currencies and combining shipping discount?
Honestly, I cannot think of any.
Maybe you are looking at something that is either technically impossible to program or it would be very expensive to put together with so few sellers using it.
eBay has tens of millions of sellers worldwide. How many sell in two (or more) currencies? How many of those offer shipping discount? I bet you it is less than 1/100 of one percent. In other words, not worth their while.
Pierre
That is not what I was asking about. I am asking about shipping discounts.
What I was asking about was combined shipping discounts on .ca and combined discounts on .com as separate things.
I am aware that currencies can't be mixed and combined in one cart.
It should not be difficult to combine shipping in the US cart, and combine shipping in the Can cart., if currencies ate US and Canadian respectively
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06-01-2017 01:19 PM
@rose-dee wrote:So, I've just had further information on this subject in a message from one of the eBay Canada reps ('a.depour').
I'm just going to post it here, without comment, and hopefully at next Wednesday's Board session we can get clarification.
"Also, I was able to confirm that you actually can have separate CSDs on .COM and .CA. You need to log into my.ebay.com and my.ebay.ca and go to the shipping preferences and set up CSD for each site (in one currency)."
Is that not a complete contradiction from what I was told?
Not helping to clarify anything at this point
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06-01-2017 01:37 PM
@lady.stark wrote:
@rose-dee wrote:At the moment, I have an automated "free shipping for 4 items" discount set up for $USD
This is a little bit out of topic, but can I ask where you can set this up? I've been searching for it but didn't find anything. The only discounts I found were stuff like "Buy X, get X% off", "Buy X, get one free", etc.
On your main Selling Manager page, under "Account/Site Preferences", look for "Shipping Preferences" and wait until all the sub-headings appear. It's under "Shipping Discounts" (not "flat rule" or "calculated discounts").
But be careful, the issues we're discussing here involve what happens once shipping discounts are set up. Depending on whether you list on .com only, .ca only, or both, you'll need to figure out clearly what the effect will be for your buyers (assuming you don't already have other automated discounts set up).
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06-01-2017 01:39 PM
@dutchman48 wrote:
"Also, I was able to confirm that you actually can have separate CSDs on .COM and .CA. You need to log into my.ebay.com and my.ebay.ca and go to the shipping preferences and set up CSD for each site (in one currency)."
Is that not a complete contradiction from what I was told?
Yup, apparently so. I give up.
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06-01-2017 02:24 PM - edited 06-01-2017 02:25 PM
"... I am asking about shipping discounts...."
I get that. My conclusion remains the same.
Very few (if any) worldwide sellers want that ability. Most likely only a few Canadians as the rest of the world does not care about selling in two or more currencies or on more than one eBay site.
eBay has shown over the last fifteen years that it will not spend money on eBay-Canada unless it generates profit for it.
There is a solution that may be used already by some Canadian sellers: using two or more User IDs where each one may sell different range of products resulting in different policies for shipping discount.

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06-01-2017 02:51 PM
Isn't that what I said in my post prior to your 1st answer.
I do have mine sort of working right now as I charge 0 for each additional item for both sites.
I am looking at a lot of changes in the future and will have to decide on 2 ID's or not, stores or not, totally revamping shipping, and many other things.
Thank you for your input and hopefully your eyes will be OK for many more years.
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06-01-2017 03:48 PM
@dutchman48 wrote:
@rose-dee wrote:So, I've just had further information on this subject in a message from one of the eBay Canada reps ('a.depour').
I'm just going to post it here, without comment, and hopefully at next Wednesday's Board session we can get clarification.
"Also, I was able to confirm that you actually can have separate CSDs on .COM and .CA. You need to log into my.ebay.com and my.ebay.ca and go to the shipping preferences and set up CSD for each site (in one currency)."
Is that not a complete contradiction from what I was told?
Not helping to clarify anything at this point
It is a contradiction to what was said on the weekly chat but it makes more sense as that is how your shipping discount appears to work right now, I see it on both sites.
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06-01-2017 03:52 PM
@pjcdn2005 wrote:
@dutchman48 wrote:
@rose-dee wrote:So, I've just had further information on this subject in a message from one of the eBay Canada reps ('a.depour').
I'm just going to post it here, without comment, and hopefully at next Wednesday's Board session we can get clarification.
"Also, I was able to confirm that you actually can have separate CSDs on .COM and .CA. You need to log into my.ebay.com and my.ebay.ca and go to the shipping preferences and set up CSD for each site (in one currency)."
Is that not a complete contradiction from what I was told?
Not helping to clarify anything at this point
It is a contradiction to what was said on the weekly chat but it makes more sense as that is how your shipping discount appears to work right now, I see it on both sites.
Only because I have 0 set up for additional items on both sites.
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06-01-2017 04:21 PM
@dutchman48 wrote:
@pjcdn2005 wrote:
@dutchman48 wrote:
@rose-dee wrote:So, I've just had further information on this subject in a message from one of the eBay Canada reps ('a.depour').
I'm just going to post it here, without comment, and hopefully at next Wednesday's Board session we can get clarification.
"Also, I was able to confirm that you actually can have separate CSDs on .COM and .CA. You need to log into my.ebay.com and my.ebay.ca and go to the shipping preferences and set up CSD for each site (in one currency)."
Is that not a complete contradiction from what I was told?
Not helping to clarify anything at this point
It is a contradiction to what was said on the weekly chat but it makes more sense as that is how your shipping discount appears to work right now, I see it on both sites.
Only because I have 0 set up for additional items on both sites.
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But based on what the rep just told rose, you could set it up different rules on each site. It works with both your Canadian and us $ listings now. If you couldn't set it up on a second currency I would only see the 0 for each additional item In one currency. At least that's how I see it. Does that make sense?
Or am I missing something?
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06-01-2017 04:40 PM
One thing that I noticed about your promo shipping rule. I realize why it shows up only in the listings generated on .com but why is it only available to US locations and not Canadians on those listings? Does the promotional rule apply only to domestic sales? Dutchmans shipping promo show to both Canadian and US buyers but I don't know if he has his set up under promotional shipping or flat rate.
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06-01-2017 04:46 PM
I am going to do some playing in the next few days by changing things to see what happens on both sites and with items.
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06-01-2017 04:47 PM - edited 06-01-2017 04:51 PM
@pjcdn2005 wrote:One thing that I noticed about your promo shipping rule. I realize why it shows up only in the listings generated on .com but why is it only available to US locations and not Canadians on those listings? Does the promotional rule apply only to domestic sales? Dutchmans shipping promo show to both Canadian and US buyers but I don't know if he has his set up under promotional shipping or flat rate.
My shipping is all flat rate for both Canada and the US and each additional item is 0 on both sites
One issue I do have is shipping on the .ca listings is free so I don't have to pay FVF's on shipping if the sell to the US
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06-01-2017 04:50 PM
@rose-dee wrote:So, I've just had further information on this subject in a message from one of the eBay Canada reps ('a.depour').
I'm just going to post it here, without comment, and hopefully at next Wednesday's Board session we can get clarification.
"Also, I was able to confirm that you actually can have separate CSDs on .COM and .CA. You need to log into my.ebay.com and my.ebay.ca and go to the shipping preferences and set up CSD for each site (in one currency)."
Clarified by Rodney and a depour on the chat.....
If you'd like your buyers to be able to combine items and pay individually, you can actually do that by setting up a combined shipping rule. You can do this in My eBay, on either eBay.ca or eBay.com, in the site preferences section. Rules you set up on eBay.ca will apply to listings you create on eBay.ca. If you list on eBay.com, you can also go to eBay.com and set up rules for your eBay.com listings there. You can even have different rules on both sites if you wish.
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06-01-2017 04:58 PM
How did you set it up? Did you use a flat rate shipping rule or the shipping promotion options at the bottom of that page?
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06-01-2017 05:45 PM
Flat rate

