What do you think is going to happen to our shipping on May 2?

So de minimis on China/Hong Kong made goods goes away May 2. If history is any lesson, there's going to be bedlam at the border.

 

I'm wondering what the shippers like Stallion and Chit Chats are going to do, while we are allowed to continue to ship non-China goods across the border, I'm expecting chaos while they're sorting all the packages to determine what can go, and what is subject to 145% tariffs (which no longer apply to electronics from what I read in the US forum).

 

With 145% tariffs, no one will be using services like Stallion and Chit Chats to send their items across duties paid, it would cost the seller money to sell the item with those types of tariffs. But it won't likely stop some people from trying to sneak their China items across under the guise of them being from a different COO.

 

There was talk a few weeks ago about needing manufacture name and address info for the shipments. That's going to cause chaos for those of us who ship vintage goods. Declaring it as "vintage" instead of providing a manufacturer was correct according to CBP, but whether or not that's accepted under the new rules is anyone's guess.

 

I think I'm going to have to go offline a few days before May 2 (yet again, for the fourth time) to wait and see what happens. There's no sense in continuing to sell if they just decide to treat all shipments as if they're Chinese (like I was told they were doing when the de minimis on China items first went away, February was it?) Stallion told me all my packages were going formal entry and tariffs were going to be charged back to my account even though I didn't ship anything made in China, they were treating all the packages as if they were made in China, then they repealed the rules and put de minimis back, and at that point my packages made it across the border (without tariffs).

 

It's just complete chaos, and this "wait 30 days" for things to happen and having to stop selling every 30 days to make sure we can comply with the new rules is exhausting.

 

For those of us who've decided to just ship Canada Post, I still think there's going to be bedlam at the border, significant delays in Canada Post packages, customers getting mad and filing INRs. I don't think shipping the items from Canada and letting the tariff be the buyer's problem is necessarily going to help escape the chaos that's pending. Plus the fact I think numerous packages will not be claimed due to tariffs. If the tracking is anything like the EU packages that are refused due to tariffs then a lot of customers will be entitled to refunds. Although I knew my EU package was refused, the integrated tracking didn't show what the carrier tracking showed me, and eBay forced me to refund the customer $50 because he didn't want to pay VAT on his import. I'm expecting with US tariffs to see a lot more of that noise.

 

C.

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Is that minimum flat minimum $100 tariff (soon $200) per item applicable to China made items coming from Canada as well? Or is it for the packages coming from China directly?

 

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How we're they shipped? Canada Post? Or cross border service?
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@itolduandso wrote:

I got rejected many packages at the border because they didn't have the Country of Origin labels on them, essentially a sticker that needs to be attached to the item or to some packaging the item is in (can be a closed transparent bag etc if it's not the original box of the product). Those are non-chinese items and I mailed them already last week they got to border Saturday, all returning.


Are your items over 20 years old? From what I read on the link posted yesterday if it's over 20 years old (prior to import) then it doesn't need an affixed sticker.

 

Also it doesn't need a sticker if putting a sticker on will damage the item (like picture an old aluminum token, you wouldn't put a sticker on that).

 

I guess I'll see if my packages are rejected, they're supposed to get to the border today (if they haven't already).

 

C.

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@itolduandso wrote:

Is that minimum flat minimum $100 tariff (soon $200) per item applicable to China made items coming from Canada as well? Or is it for the packages coming from China directly?

 


My understanding is it's "China made items" no matter where they are shipped from.

 

Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

C.

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How will CBP know that the item is over twenty years old?
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@marnotom! wrote:
How will CBP know that the item is over twenty years old?

It depends on the item. I sell coins, most of them are dated.

 

C.

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@sapphyres-designer-jewellery wrote:

@marnotom! wrote:
How will CBP know that the item is over twenty years old?

It depends on the item. I sell coins, most of them are dated.

 

C.


@sapphyres-designer-jewellery 

In some categories you can get away with Year - Unknown. Many categories require a specific year. In those cases I just leave blank. Even older books can be very challenging to pin down precisely. 

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