what about a virtual meeting place... I saw something on CNN where a US Senator (or some political figure) set up a virtual meeting room on Second Life and then invited people to attend his meeting.
I am all for the concept of pooling our resources, but the last time I booked a hotel room it was a lot more expensive than $50.00 and there was the travelling expenses and eating costs. We are looking for ways to save money, not spend the hard earned money we make from selling on eBay in one weekend.
I would prefer to do this online in some fashion, with our without webcams, no matter. One of the reasons for their being an internet is for online communication to cut down or eliminate the need to be travelling across the country to have a meeting.
Bill.
I am all for the concept of pooling our resources, but the last time I booked a hotel room it was a lot more expensive than $50.00 and there was the travelling expenses and eating costs. We are looking for ways to save money, not spend the hard earned money we make from selling on eBay in one weekend.
I would prefer to do this online in some fashion, with our without webcams, no matter. One of the reasons for their being an internet is for online communication to cut down or eliminate the need to be travelling across the country to have a meeting.
Bill.
3 hour drive to Kitchener, meeting time, 3 hour drive back.. I have 6 plus hours available for an online meeting. That would be more productive 6 plus hours than sitting in my car alone.
We dont have to have a voice conference, we can type.
Bill.
We dont have to have a voice conference, we can type.
Bill.
sounds like a social gathering. Who's bringing the munchies ?
I think we can accomplish what we need to do just fine online. We could have had a lot of ideas on the table, instead we have 64 messages and we haven't learnt much more than what we already know or are already doing.
Bill.
I think we can accomplish what we need to do just fine online. We could have had a lot of ideas on the table, instead we have 64 messages and we haven't learnt much more than what we already know or are already doing.
Bill.
HI Fitz.. I tried emailing you at the email you have listed at the end of your post, however it bounced back, so I sent you a message through the email seller link on one of your auction listings.
This is what bounced back...
This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
Your message was not delivered because the destination computer refused
to accept it (the error message is reproduced below). This type of error
is usually due to a mis-configured account or mail delivery system on the
destination computer; however, it could be caused by your message since
some mail systems refuse messages with invalid header information, or if
they are too large.
Your message was rejected by g.mx.mail.yahoo.com for the following reason:
delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.ca account (fitzheueinternational@yahoo.ca) [0] - mta220.mail.re2.yahoo.com
The following recipients did not receive this message:
This is what bounced back...
This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
Your message was not delivered because the destination computer refused
to accept it (the error message is reproduced below). This type of error
is usually due to a mis-configured account or mail delivery system on the
destination computer; however, it could be caused by your message since
some mail systems refuse messages with invalid header information, or if
they are too large.
Your message was rejected by g.mx.mail.yahoo.com for the following reason:
delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.ca account (fitzheueinternational@yahoo.ca) [0] - mta220.mail.re2.yahoo.com
The following recipients did not receive this message:
Pooling resources? Where did you get that idea from? Sharing ideas is one thing but sharing money? I'm not doing that. Sorry. That's a very bad idea in my opinion.
The drive is an issue for me and probably most others outside of the GTA. There are many online venues beyond eBay for discussions. Yahoo comes to mind, MSN comes to mind.
FutureTeck it sounds to me like you want to exclude anyone who can't attend a real face to face meeting. I have lots of ideas and solutions that I use to make my selling on eBay more profitable, but I am not driving 150 miles in a blinding snow storm on a weekend to share them when I can just attend an online meeting in the comfort of my home and have the same conversation (either spoken or typing) Not everyone likes to or is able to travel, but one thing we all have in common is a computer and an internet connection.
Bill.
FutureTeck it sounds to me like you want to exclude anyone who can't attend a real face to face meeting. I have lots of ideas and solutions that I use to make my selling on eBay more profitable, but I am not driving 150 miles in a blinding snow storm on a weekend to share them when I can just attend an online meeting in the comfort of my home and have the same conversation (either spoken or typing) Not everyone likes to or is able to travel, but one thing we all have in common is a computer and an internet connection.
Bill.
Bill, you certainly make it sound that you want it your way or no way. I have not seen where anyone is trying to exclude you. It makes no sense for the majority to drive to Barrie or for the majority to have a web conference when (so far) you are the only one to express interest in it. I also have no interest in a web conference or chat room or discussion board for the purpose discussed. Does that mean that I'm also trying to exclude you?
IMHO you are making every effort thus far to exclude yourself.
The drive is an issue for me and probably most others outside of the GTA.
I am located outside the GTA and would be prepared to drive within an hour so please don't speak for me. Most others are outside the GTA and have already expressed a willingness to travel so I'm really not sure who (beyond yourself) you are speaking on behalf of.
Frankly, you can decide for yourself to attend or not, but I, for one, am not interested if individuals call the shots despite the expressed interests of the majority. Either the majority rules or count me out.
Bill treasure-pot
IMHO you are making every effort thus far to exclude yourself.
The drive is an issue for me and probably most others outside of the GTA.
I am located outside the GTA and would be prepared to drive within an hour so please don't speak for me. Most others are outside the GTA and have already expressed a willingness to travel so I'm really not sure who (beyond yourself) you are speaking on behalf of.
Frankly, you can decide for yourself to attend or not, but I, for one, am not interested if individuals call the shots despite the expressed interests of the majority. Either the majority rules or count me out.
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Wow... If I can't express my opinion here are you even going to listen to what I have to say anyways. I understand that the meeting is not going to take place in Barrie, we were asked to make a location suggestion. That was my suggestion, I was prepared to drive 50 miles south if others were prepared to drive 50 miles north, but no... someone came up with the idea of Kitchener, so I said that was too far for me. I can't travel that far. So I suggested online meeting, but no one wants that either. I have somehow gotten the distinct impression that if you don't show up at this meeting that your not going to be a part of this group, so yes I am trying to get the location moved closer or promote an online discussion because I don't want to be excluded.
The OP asked for our input, I am just making sure that my voice is heard and not drowned out by others.
Bill.
The OP asked for our input, I am just making sure that my voice is heard and not drowned out by others.
Bill.
Bill, you're absolutely welcome to express your opinion. Heck, we all are. But it is coming across as aggressive. My way or the highway kind of thing. Some people want to do face to face and you're pushing for not because you can't/won't drive a certain distance.
In a way it reminds me of eBay Live. Number one they don't do conferencing. They relay some notes afterwards and only recently for specific classes have they recorded them. But not every location is going to be convenient for everyone to get to. eBay picks the location and people decide if they want to go there or not.
Forgive me for being so blunt but 50 miles from your location isn't much of a compromise. Even if everybody went 50 miles from their location we'd still not be that much close together. Suggestions are great to get ideas tossed around but they don't all have to be accepted.
Barrie doesn't seem very popular. Next suggestion? And who says you'd be excluded? Who says it'll even actually happen despite people showing interest? Who says there won't be another? Who says if there is that it will be in the same location?
Smile. Take a deep breath. No need to get offended. We're just talking. Not all ideas are going to be accepted by all. :)
In a way it reminds me of eBay Live. Number one they don't do conferencing. They relay some notes afterwards and only recently for specific classes have they recorded them. But not every location is going to be convenient for everyone to get to. eBay picks the location and people decide if they want to go there or not.
Forgive me for being so blunt but 50 miles from your location isn't much of a compromise. Even if everybody went 50 miles from their location we'd still not be that much close together. Suggestions are great to get ideas tossed around but they don't all have to be accepted.
Barrie doesn't seem very popular. Next suggestion? And who says you'd be excluded? Who says it'll even actually happen despite people showing interest? Who says there won't be another? Who says if there is that it will be in the same location?
Smile. Take a deep breath. No need to get offended. We're just talking. Not all ideas are going to be accepted by all. :)
Not exactly accurate.
It's fine to make your opinion heard but you have suggested that others are trying to exclude you because they don't accept your ideas and that was far from the case. I don't know where you got this impression that if you don't show up at this meeting that your not going to be a part of this group but I have reread the thread and can find no such suggestion.
Others from Windsor, Goderich and London have suggested that they are prepared to dive farther than you. Check the thread again and you will see that only three from the GTA have expressed interest - certainly not the majority by far.
You made your suggestion of Barrie and no one wanted to make that drive. You made your suggestion of a web conference and no one wanted to take part. You made your suggestion of a chat room or discussion board and no one has expressed interest in those either.
Your concerns about a "blinding snowstorm" could be valid or it could also be a pleasant near spring day like today. I can assure you that I far more fear snowstorms near Chatham and Woodstock than I do near Barrie.
If you chose not to attend it is your choice and not the effort of someone to exclude you. Stop blaming others for their unwillingness to allow you to determine an initial meeting format or location.
Bill treasure-pot
It's fine to make your opinion heard but you have suggested that others are trying to exclude you because they don't accept your ideas and that was far from the case. I don't know where you got this impression that if you don't show up at this meeting that your not going to be a part of this group but I have reread the thread and can find no such suggestion.
Others from Windsor, Goderich and London have suggested that they are prepared to dive farther than you. Check the thread again and you will see that only three from the GTA have expressed interest - certainly not the majority by far.
You made your suggestion of Barrie and no one wanted to make that drive. You made your suggestion of a web conference and no one wanted to take part. You made your suggestion of a chat room or discussion board and no one has expressed interest in those either.
Your concerns about a "blinding snowstorm" could be valid or it could also be a pleasant near spring day like today. I can assure you that I far more fear snowstorms near Chatham and Woodstock than I do near Barrie.
If you chose not to attend it is your choice and not the effort of someone to exclude you. Stop blaming others for their unwillingness to allow you to determine an initial meeting format or location.
Bill treasure-pot
And now I must depart... we are driving 85 kms to my daughters apartment for dinner.
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