Don't Let a Few Bad Apples Spoil the Senate - Opinion

"The difference between a statesman and a politician," someone once said (I can't recall who), "is that the statesman thinks he belongs to the State, and the politician thinks the State belongs to him." There is more reality to this keen observation than we might suspect.


The kind of politics we have been experiencing for some time now sees you and me as mere supplicants to be manipulated through the offering of the odd morsel. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to note that our present political dysfunction finds its centre in the low regard with which parties views the average citizen -- a judgment which sees the reverse administered in equal measure. Mutual contempt. If things remain this way, we won't be able to negotiate our way out of our present predicament.


We often forget just how many great Senators have kept rampant politics at bay through reasoned and compelling arguments that often put the present House of Commons to shame. James Clarke once wrote that, "A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman of the next generation." The Canadian Senate has most often acted in ways more like the latter than the former. Despite its recent troubles, the Senate has often shown the valued propensity to rise above the squalor and partisanship of the House.


Surely Canadians can spot the difference between a Mike Duffy and a Romeo Dallaire, or between a Pamela Wallin and Muriel Ferguson! The quality of character and intelligence in Senator Hugh Segal simply dwarfs the rather sad record of Patrick Brazeau. The average citizen can sense the distinction a kilometre away.


Let's leave the Duffys et al to their fate and consider the others just mentioned.


I worked fairly extensively with Romeo Dallaire on a number of initiatives and simply came away dwarfed by his experience and commitment. The reception he receives while speaking in the Senate is no less profound than when he challenges university students to pick up the mantle and lead Canada into the next generation. He is a saddened heart always on the move, driven by memories of Rwanda and a Canadian global influence lost. Dallaire is one of the greatest individuals of his generation and he is a Senator.


Muriel McQueen Ferguson is a virtual unknown to most Canadians, yet the ripples stemming out from her courageous actions over the years continue to have effect today. In 1972, she was the first female Speaker of the Senate and the first female Speaker in Canada's Parliament. She opened up the Page program for the first time to female students. She was a true Canadian champion of the first order and to this day no one really knows what her political affiliation was.


Hugh Segal has been labelled the "Happy Warrior". He has served with distinction in the Senate and has developed a remarkable ability to cross party lines, and co-chaired a Senate committee that put out a major report on poverty and Canada's social safety net. A "Red Tory," he was appointed to the Senate by Paul Martin (one of three Conservatives). Past Conservative PMs have, on occasion, appointed Liberals or Independents.


Distinguished Senators like constitutional expert Eugene Forsey guided the partisan House of Commons through many rocky shoals and built legislative and research records that still serve useful purpose today. They lived as examples of James Clarke's lesson of those who think of the next generation instead of just the next election campaign.


Sadly, the record of the Senate in recent years has been a troubled one, with the quality Senators being eclipsed by those in the Senate who possessed lesser lights or overtly partisan intentions. Reform is clearly required and wholesome debate on the subject is necessary.


But I was elevated and informed by the likes of the Dallaires and the Segals -- so much so that I developed a sense of hope from the chamber down the hall from the Commons where I worked. I was reminded again of how often politicians come across as those with whom it can be easy to disagree, but how certain key Senators persuaded me and assisted in clearing my mind, embracing new research, and working with them for a better Canada.


They are the kind of people who couldn't function in the House because its partisan trappings would only undermine their spirits, as they did mine. With a reformed Senate in place, we can clearly do better.

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''The message is chilling: Stay in the good books with the boss, and things will  go your way. Cause him headaches, and you won’t have a friend in the world.''

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Duffy+fickle+friends+have+abandoned/8463708/story.html





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"It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are."--Unknown
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You often put in here quotes from Mike Fuffy. He's not as much of a hero now?





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http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/06/05/mike-duffy-senate-meetings_n_3388513.html 


 


"The highest committee attendance in a single year for Duffy occurred during his first year as a senator, when he went to 34 meetings out of the 60 scheduled for the two committees on which he sits."


 


I guess he meant well when he started as a senator.

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Power and money corrupts Pierre. Look at our mayor, Federal cabinet minister pension $100,000, as London mayor $100,000.

"It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are."--Unknown
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Just move your cursor over the senator to see expenses....... http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/02/15/senate_finance_data.html 





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OLD NEWS!!!!!!  

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"OLD NEWS!!!!!!  "


 


Maybe so but it still does not make your Boss look any better, does it?


 


Instead of constantly attempting to deflect attention from "mistakes" made by the Conservative Party, its leader and members (including appointed senators), it would be nice to see some acknowledgement of the problems.

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Right now Harper and his motley crew are scrambling to figure out not only what to say, but also repaint his image, because he knows the election next time will be much different than in the past.





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Maybe so but it still does not make your Boss look any better, does it?


 


hmmm did not see my bosses name anywhere on the list--maybe I got a new job---been with the company a LONG TIME but you never know!!!


 


Lets take a look at the TOP 3 spenders


#1--Nick Sibbeston-LIBERAL   travel-$374,263.08 living-$30,208.63


#2-Terry Merver-LIBERAL     travel-$366,104.60 Living $47,980.03


#3--Pamela Wallin-Conservative  Travel-$350,461.42 Living-$26,677.36


 


 


NOW LETS LOOK AT ALL THOSE THAT GOT ZERO!!!!


 


Denis Batters-CONSERVATIVE


Lynn Beyak-CONSERVATIVE


Douglas Black- CONSERVATIVE


Thanh Hai Ngo- CONSERVATIVE


Victor Oh-CONSERVATIVE


David Mark Wells-CONSERVATIVE

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Pamela Wallin.


 


Is she the one who claims to live in Saskatchewan, but uses a Toronto address when she sits on a few boards in Toronto?


I don't why Harper chose Duffy, Wallin and the guy who lost the boxing match to Trudeau as senators.


He must have been having shock treatment at the time.


 

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LOL





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I don't why Harper chose Duffy, Wallin and the guy who lost the boxing match to Trudeau as senators.


 


The answer to the question relative to Duffy and Wallin is simple.  Harper fears the press.  Harper hates the press.  He fears that they are out to get him - and no doubt, they are.  Duffy and Wallin were two members of the press that seemed to be on Harper's side.  Thus, he rewarded them with Senate seats.  Maybe hoped that other members of the press might see this and try to get on his good side.


As for Brazeau, my guess is that he is the token First Nations senator.  Harper wanted to do something to show that he was not anti-native - something that he could do without actually giving the natives anything.

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Harper wanted to do something to show that he was not anti-native - something that he could do without actually giving the natives anything.


 


He could have appointed the anti-semite native leader from western Canada if he wanted a native on the senate.


 

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Harper fears the press.  Harper hates the press.  He fears that they are out to get him - and no doubt, they are.


 


Actually he fears the press because they ask questions he won't answer and they won't let him go until they get a real answer. Harper, is a coward.





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sort of like people who hide on ebay chats with a mask and hidden identity right?

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hidden identity


 


???


 


That's funny. The pot calling the kettle black!


 


At least, I do not hide!

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Sort of like people who are no shows. But..... if Mohammad won't go to the mountain then the mountain will go to Mohammad. Just need directions.


 


 





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