03-15-2013 12:04 PM
I really go the extra mile when I sell something on eBay - I gift wrap all my items, I started a Gift-With-Purchase program and I include other extra gifts like genuine astronaut souvenirs of when my brother went into space. I do all these things so the buyer remembers me, and files positive feedback. It is very frustrating to me that even though I include a Thank You card with my item giving item number and my seller name etc, and politely requesting feedback, about half or more of my buyers do not file feedback. This is even after they have emailed me and said they loved their item. It is also even after I've sent, every two or three weeks, a polite friendly email asking for feedback and saying I will do the same for them. I want to get as high a positive feedback number as I can get because I'm very ill and selling everything I own before it is too late. I spend the money to buy nice gift wrap and ribbons. I can't imagine that some people have a negative reaction to the souvenirs of my brother - about half of my buyers say they found it really neat. I just can't understand why a lot of people don't file feedback - for example about half of my February sales did not file feedback even though some of them sent me emails saying they loved their item. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? And also on how to get more sales? I'm alone, and really trying hard here. Thanks.
03-15-2013 07:59 PM
"I don't think I say in my listings 10 days"
It does. Click on the Shipping and Payment tab. You will see it.
That information comes from you when you fill the "Sell your Item" form (or whatever program you use to list on eBay).
03-15-2013 08:02 PM
It was my understanding that it says Will ship WITHIN (or up to) 10 days. Let me take a look.
03-15-2013 08:02 PM
"My feedbacks show that most people have found they received their packages very fast"
While that may be true, you have no way of evaluating how many potential buyers hit the back button when they saw "10 days". I know I would never buy anything online if I had to wait two weeks for the item being shipped. Not when most other sellers offer 1 or 2 days.
03-15-2013 08:03 PM
Good point. I agree. Let me see exactly what it says on the Sell Your Item form.
03-15-2013 08:03 PM
Mary is calling me "Stop playing with your friends on the computer".
Time to go. 🙂
Good night.
03-16-2013 11:10 AM
Hi! I took a quick look at a couple listings, and I also think you have way too much there, anything after the description of the item isn't (in my opinion) what the buyer cares about anyway and is very unlikely to read. This is on the very big assumption they even bother to read the listing details, I've mentioned in other discussion threads that it is clear that a growing number of people (through phones etc) seem to be only looking at the title and pictures, it is very clear that that many do not read anything in the description at all (I even put "PLZ Read description" in my title and that has limited to no effect).
I agree with Pierre et al that while it may be true in the odd case, generally your customers do not care about you. They care about the sweater or whatever they bought and if it meets their needs. Some conscientious ones will take the time to let you know directly or through feedback if they are happy or not, others will not.
I know that it is very very hard, but it is important to not take the stuff personally, you are in "business" if you are doing your best that is all you can do, and no matter how good a job you do, eventually you will encounter problem situations which you again do your best to resolve and move on....a lot easier in words than in practice ....
I'm not sure if someone else put an answer to this but you need to understand the total cost of the item you're selling which includes original cost, costs of selling (ebay fees, paypal fees), envelopes, costs of the cab to the post office etc....and a mark up after that.....
I do think it is not good to follow up with people for feedback, I bought something which the seller asked for feedback 3 times, which really irritated me. Irritating buyers is a very bad thing to do.....
Hopefully some of this is of use, I'm way behind so I need to stop before I write a book myself....have a great weekend!!!
03-16-2013 11:18 AM
Hi, Thanks for your comments. I have been making changes based on the comments of others and the excellent comments by Pierre, who was kind enough to send me many messages. I have reduced my "handling time" choice on the Sell Your Item form to two days. 98% of my items I was able to send out in that time anyway, and I didn't realize that when I chose 10 days, an Exception message was being sent to buyers. Also, I have reduced my text a lot. I still feel it necessary to say some things but it is now much smaller. See for example my hat listing 120971319230. I'm also not sure if it is worth it to include Testimonials. The eBay rep said it was, but I've found people barely read what I've put in item description, and that is a good point that if they are using phones nowadays to look at listings - maybe I should remove the testimonials as well. That will take another big chunk of text out of my listings.
03-16-2013 11:42 AM
Received the same advice from Pierre & others years ago.
Keep it simple, keep it clean, has worked for me.
I had at one time plenty of text in my listings, now just the basics. Doesn't seem to have hurt sales.
Constructive Criticism is helpful as we usually don't notice the errors in our listings until it is mentioned to us.
03-16-2013 12:08 PM
Personal opinion but for sure take out the testimonials.....
03-16-2013 12:09 PM
PS if you ask 5 different eBay reps what you should do you will get 6 different answers.... 🙂
03-16-2013 12:23 PM
Thanks everyone.
PS if you ask 5 different eBay reps what you should do you will get 6 different answers..
That is the truth. They don't have the eBay people that help sellers any more - I forget what it was called, but you phoned and made an appointment and someone would call you back and for 1/2 hour give you suggestions re. your store.
Now, customer service for eBay is in India or Phillipines.
03-16-2013 03:46 PM
"I recommend Designer and luxury items be sent by insured mail with a tracking number, which may cost a bit more than the postage shown in the listing.
Use Calculated Shipping.
The cost of Postage depends on many factors - buyer address, size/weight of box, insured or not, air or surface, etc.
Well, yeah. Irrelevant. Use Calculated Shipping."
Calculated shipping can be very problematic and risky for the seller if you're selling items with a wide range of value and weights/sizes. Buyers are inevitably going to choose what's cheapest, and don't understand or care about differences between shipping options, especially if they're in the U.S.
With all due respect to femmefan, Pierre, et al, sellers who concentrate on primarily one area of merchandise, especially when those items are relatively small and lightweight, have a far simpler task where shipping is concerned. I would not leave a U.S. buyer to decide what shipping to choose on a $200 garment that must go in a large box.
Simply put, because of the type of items I sell, I make the decisions on shipping in advance. All my listings are flat rate. This ties in with the comments by others about not giving too much information on shipping in listings - aside from asking international buyers or buyers with multiple purchases to request a total.
I have a suggestion for "tigergirl1" that may help with shipping anxieties, and lower the FVFs on shipping somewhat, and make customers happy: Like you, I sell garments that are expensive and rather large that really must go insured with tracking. For these I show a flat rate that is a few dollars below the true shipping cost. This of course varies with the price of the item and the weight/shipping size. For example, on a $200 item, I can afford to show a shipping cost of $5 or more lower than reality; on a $50 item it might be only $2.00 lower.
So, I show the rate for say, Tracked Packet as $15.00 when it's actually perhaps $20.00. I say nothing in the listing about discounted shipping (unless it's a really huge discount on a particular listing). When the item is purchased, I send a thank-you email to my buyer, telling him/her I'm going to upgrade the shipping at no charge to them. I may also tell them what the actual cost would have been. Then, when processing the online shipping label, I pay the difference for the upgrade. I often build this loss into my pricing, but on occasion I just rack it up to promotion and good business (oh yes, and I keep track of these discounts for tax purposes).
For me, with the wide range of sizes, shapes and values I sell, this has worked well, kept my DSRs for shipping up, and has made repeat customers. This strategy is a compromise between offering free shipping on everything then rolling the cost into my prices, or letting the customer pay full shipping and myself pay full FVFs on the shipping.
On the subject of KISPP (thank you Pierre:-x), although I agree that almost all of the text not dealing with the item description or the seller's personal situation should go, with some categories of items I think people need and want fuller descriptions, and the listings have to be exciting and attractive besides. This is especially true with clothing. Although some categories of items can be completely and sufficiently described in a few lines, many cannot. There is "completeness" and there is "attractiveness" - qualities that have to be reconciled in advertising (I worked in the marketing industry for years, so perhaps have a more personal take on this than others). A "KISPP" listing isn't necessarily the right touch if you're selling designer clothing for example.
The above isn't to say that I disagree with those who believe buyers no longer read descriptions...the challenge is to make the descriptions interesting enough that buyers may read at least the important parts. I work on the premise of packing the essentials and excitement into the first 2 paragraphs -- after that, I assume only truly interested buyers will read on.
One other suggestion to 'tigergirl1' (is it Kathy?): Can you afford to spend money on an auction management service? I use Auctiva (used to be free, now it's $2.95/mo.) and they have some really attractive templates. There are some free services - I think maybe Inkfrog still is (eBay's is rather poor in comparison, IMHO). These allow you to store "boilerplate" for "Shipping", "Terms of Sale", "About Us", and "Contact" that go into tidy little paragraphs at the end of each listing. You don't have to do anything once you've set them up.
I disagree with the opinion mentioned above that you shouldn't bother with testimonials. There is a place for these, but I agree that place is not in the listings. I can't recall whether you use eBay's "Store Pages". Using that tool (access it through "Manage Store") you can set up a page where you can highlight the best of customer testimonials -- buyers who are interested can look them up, others don't have to bother. You can set up other pages too, like "FAQ" for example, to handle those pesky repeated questions. Then all you need to say in the listing itself is "See "Store Pages"", and hope they will. By the way, like other store boxes, you can locate these where you want them, change the fonts, colours, etc. to grab more attention. I may be telling you things you already know, but since you mentioned problems with FAQs, I thought I'd add these notes here.
Oh yes, and one final note: if you haven't already done so, check out what your listings look like over the eBay mobile network - Yikes! it was an education for me, and forced me to change the whole concept and layout of my listings.
And yes, femmefan, I'm over 50 too, don't own a mobile phone, don't want one, don't care to use one, but no doubt there's much more to come in mobile/online shopping access.
03-16-2013 03:57 PM
"One other suggestion to 'tigergirl1' (is it Kathy?): Can you afford to spend money on an auction management service? I use Auctiva (used to be free, now it's $2.95/mo.) and they have some really attractive templates.
My apologies, I just took another look at one of your listings, and I see you have Auctiva -- but do you make use of their templates and "boilerplate" tools? They have a tutorial on their site that's worth taking to use it to full advantage.
Cheers!
03-16-2013 04:05 PM
One more thing I noticed on looking at your store - just in my opinion - I'd reduce the huge number of visible categories.
I don't know if you're aware, but eBay has an option in the "Categories" set-up to either show or hide sub-categories. If they are hidden, buyers only see them when they click on a main category. Makes for a much cleaner-looking store presentation.
03-16-2013 05:00 PM
" In most cases my items have the store and price hang tags on, and/or are in the original boxes, my items are NEW and UNUSED. My items are in my non-smoking, child-free clean dry uncluttered home and are stored in bags in humidity-free clean closets and drawers or dust-free rubber boxes. Garments are kept in new plastic or cloth garment bags and in some cases in cedar closets."
I just noticed this and thought I'd add a note. I'm looking at these comments from a buyer's perspective -- I'd leave out the "child-free clean dry uncluttered home" all the way to "dust-free rubber boxes". A buyer who has kids might be offended, and buyers may feel that if you have to make a point of saying your home is uncluttered and clean, etc., there must be something wrong. Here "KISPP" works - I'd simply say:
"My items are carefully stored in my non-smoking home in dust-free, dry conditions, in plastic or cloth garment bags, or cedar closets."
I think that's enough for buyers to get the picture. I'll stop chatting and go away now... 🙂
03-16-2013 06:45 PM
Hi Rose-Dee,
While I appreciated femmefan's suggestions of Use Calculated Shipping, I have tried all the different choices on the Sell Your Item form and the only one that is practical for me is to select a country or countries and select the actual shipping method and put in my closest guess as to what I think it might cost. In other words, on the International shipping part of the form, I select France, United Kingdom, Germany, whatever, I select Surface Parcel International, and I put in my best guess for cost because it varies depending on which country I'm sending to. Then I selected a second International shipping part and I put in Australia, Japan, Asia, etc. and did the same, with a higher price.
Thank you, thank you, rose-dee for understanding that for me, with so many varied sizes and weights of items, it is impossible to use some of the eBay shipping like Calculated Shipping, and it is a very difficult task for me to get close to exact postal prices when I am doing my Sell Your Item form. I don't know where the buyer will be, so even if I pre-wrap my item (which is almost impossible to do with over 500 items), and measure it and weigh it, I still won't know what the postal cost will be until I know where the buyer is.
As far as I know, I am using the "flat rate" system. I have a problem with getting a tracking number, in other words, if I know I will want to send an item by a Canada Post method with a tracking number - which is Tracked Packet, Expedited or more expensive methods - the cost of these methods is high - at least it is high enough that buyers email me and say how can the shipping cost be so high? They forget they are in the US and USPS is much cheaper. But for me to try and sell my item at the lowest price possible, I often have to choose Small Packet Air which no longer has insurance, and does not have a tracking number. This leaves me vulnerable to claims by buyers (honest or not) who say they didn't get their item.
I also do not use eBay online shipping labels. I tried once and it was so confusing and did not offer the price reduction eBay promised it would. So I make my own shipping labels and take the parcels directly to Canada Post. I don't see any disadvantage in doing this. Maybe I'm wrong????? Comments???
Since I'm disabled and on a small disability pension, I have no tax advantage and cannot write off any postage charges etc.
As you say, rose-dee, a listing for clothing, for example a suit, cannot be done in a few lines. There is a need to give fabric, label, size, made in, colour, trim, cuff details, sleeve length, measurements of both top and bottom, whether it has hood, lining, pockets, belt, what is the closure - zipper?, my notes on condition, which can be lengthy because I try and include everything so as to avoid problems, any other details of the garment, etc.
I did use Auctiva and opted out when they started charging a fee, although I notice that an Auctiva rolling display of my items is still on my eBay pages. In Manage Your Store, I have filled in Custom Pages where I give my Shipping, Terms, etc. I must admit I forgot all about them, and only revisited them again after Pierre got me thinking -- I revisited them this morning and made huge changes since they were out of date.
I do have three Store Pages, but will look into setting up a Testimonials page - thanks for the suggestion.
I don't have a mobile device, but will ask my doctor and see if I can look at one or more of my listings.
I did for a while hide my sub-categories, but was getting emails saying Do You Have Suede Jackets? and yes, I did, in the Fur and Leather section. So I thought it might be clearer if I showed the sub-categories up front.
I must admit I added the Clean uncluttered home line after watching a few episodes of Hoarders on TV. I thought, once again, that adding that info would reassure buyers. People do seem to appreciate the Non-Smoking Home details.
Thanks for taking the time to share so much with me.
03-16-2013 06:47 PM
I'm in the process of revising my Handling Time from 10 days to 2 days, per Pierre's good suggestion.
Does anyone know how I can do this for all of my listings all at the same time?
A month ago, I spent about 2 weeks going to each of my individual listings and taking out the line I had about Have A Merry Christmas. It was a long and tedious process.
Do I have to do it all again to change my Handling Time, and change the words in my text, i.e. to remove child free home?
03-16-2013 07:09 PM
"I don't have a mobile device, but will ask my doctor and see if I can look at one or more of my listings."
Kathy, you can go to this link on a home computer and it will show you exactly what your listings look like on a mobile phone (no need to have a phone) --
I've put the link on my Favourites so I can look at my listings through the mobile system from time to time. Just plug in one of your item numbers or do a search in the usual way. It's a real eye-opener. This is what all those under-50 "kids" see out there!
All the best!
03-16-2013 07:27 PM
Well one learns something every day, I've never used this method of looking at my listings. I've used phones before and the phones I've used have shown "more" than is here.
When I look at my lots with pictures embedded in the description, the pictures do not show at all....so anyone who's phone is using this style view doesn't see the pictures at all and certainly won't be likely to notice the disclaimers saying to read the details in the description. I only have embedded pictures with the more "dangerous" lots I sell with the intention of getting the buyers to read the disclaimers above the pictures.....rats so that doesn't work, that also explains some of the "never read the description" issues I've had. It also means in those cases the exact opposite is happening of what I intended, they're seeing the least pictures possible for my most "dangerous" lots....argghhhhhh.
Sigh, the description is also terrible looking too. I guess I'll have to redesign that someday....in my spare time......
THX so much for putting that link out there, it has answered some questions and is very helpful!
03-16-2013 08:15 PM
When I look at my lots with pictures embedded in the description, the pictures do not show at all....so anyone who's phone is using this style view doesn't see the pictures at all and certainly won't be likely to notice the disclaimers saying to read the details in the description.
Sigh, the description is also terrible looking too. I guess I'll have to redesign that someday....in my spare time......
THX so much for putting that link out there, it has answered some questions and is very helpful!
You're very welcome! And this is exactly why I had to go back and revise my listings. The embedded photos (which I use through Auctiva) didn't show up at all, so I had to go into every listing, add the photos on the eBay revision page to the gallery (up top, below the main photo) for them to show up on the mobile system.
Also, you're right about descriptions - they can get muddled in mobile format. Before you make major changes in your descriptions though, I'd suggest checking your listings on a couple of different mobile phones -- the description portion may show up more fully on some phones than others.