09-24-2015 07:02 PM
I noticed that Etsy was opening 'popup stores' for various cities, and checked it out.
In the process I learned what their fees are.
20 cents US for each listing-- I'm assuming monthly.
3.5% FVF
4% + 20cents payment processing fee.
And there was a loooooong thread in the Community section bemoaning that sales (and view) had dropped dead in Feb/ Mar/June/2015/2014/ August /etc /etc.
Plus ca change, eh?
I've listed there before, but I don't recall ever getting a sale. But my vintage patterns might do better now I have a decent stock of them.
10-20-2015 11:46 AM - edited 10-20-2015 11:48 AM
I've been doing fairly well there since I expanded to listing on that site several months ago. It fits my items to a "T", and despite having far fewer listings there, my turnover has been about 10% to 15% -- far better than here. You're right, all the fees are lower than here. The $0.20 listing fee is for 3 months, not one.
However, the competition has increased significantly over the last few months, partly because Etsy made the decision to permit "manufacturing partners", a sort of cutesy way of letting in commercially made goods. Although to a lesser extent than on eBay, this opened the gates for you-know-who. Now I see quite a lot of obviously mass-produced goods being sold there. This is allowed as long as the shop owner can claim the manufacturer is working as a partner in the "creative" process. Yeah, right.
The other thing I was disappointed to see was that Etsy went public this year. We all know what that leads to, with shareholders constantly nipping at the heels of CEOs.
I think the "pop-up stores" are just that -- temporary sales venues. It's a trial balloon, I believe, to see if the public has an appetite for any more permanent installations. So far I don't think it's been successful enough across the board to warrant franchising. They aren't going to be Tim Horton's of the crafty trade anytime soon.
And yes, there has been a definite slow-down in sales on that site since early summer that has mirrored what has happened on eBay. I see even long-time, established Etsy sellers with dozens upon dozens of interesting listings who are struggling to make a couple of sales a week, and it seems most of those sales are of the cheapest items they offer. These are people who were doing a roaring business 3 or 4 years ago.
All of this leads me to believe there may be factors at work beyond the usual site dysfunctions and bad policy-making at eBay and elsewhere. That is, unless Amazon is booming, having stolen everybody else's thunder. I don't know enough about Amazon to say. If their sellers are feeling the squeeze too, then perhaps its a demographic switch in online buyers, or a reflection of economic woes generally.
I am still planning to expand my offerings on Etsy, but with lower expectations than a year ago. EBay is still the better place if you want massive exposure.
11-07-2015 10:07 PM
It's funny that I never noticed this thread until now.
Amazon has eaten everything in its path, and that includes ebay and etsy.
It's even a bit alarming.
I love this headline http://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2015/11/1446913375.html
Sat Nov 7 2015 11:22:55 |
Has Amazon Found a New Way to Torture Sellers?By: Ina Steiner |
Amazon has found a new way to torture sellers, at least that's how it feels to some merchants who noted new performance metrics in their dashboards this week. The new metrics came as an unwelcome surprise to merchants, since Amazon hadn't given any advance warning..... |
11-08-2015 11:37 AM
"EBay is still the better place if you want massive exposure. "
I totally agree.
Despite all the technical problems (glitches), changes of policy (Cdn$ listings, new default policy, etc...) eBay remains the best online venue for most Canadian individuals wishing to sell their products online.
And all businesses, large and small, should always look at more than one way to sell their products.
11-12-2015 12:09 PM - edited 11-12-2015 12:10 PM
@mjwl2006 wrote:It's funny that I never noticed this thread until now.
Yes, welcome, we've been here in our quiet little corner for years.
What I like about this board is that it is ostensibly limited to the most experienced and serious sellers (Power Sellers of one level or another), with a balanced outlook on selling here on eBay. It also avoids some of the more "problematic" trolls who drift amongst the discussion boards.
You come here to have a meaningful and useful adult discussion, in other words.
11-12-2015 03:49 PM
We should use it more often.