Lack of eBay enforcement for stolen images/text

regaz
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I have encountered a major problem with other sellers taking photos and text right off of my auction page and using them on their own. In one case I reported the thief on four separate incidents. Each time eBay removed the auctions but took no auction against the person that copies my auctions. I have found another seller using my text, word for word, and it has been almost three days since they were reported to eBay. These auctions haven't been shut down yet and the seller will probably just keep doing it once he/she discovers that eBay does not enforce their policy for repeat offenders.

Have other sellers encountered this type of situation as well?
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whoscloset
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I had a seller copy my entire listing. I reported him but it did no good his listing wasn't removed. It's very frustrating when you spend hours making your listings as professional as possible and someone just comes along and steals them.

Monique

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your-chic-shopper
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Use a Java script that prevents them from copying the text

Like this

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3083765779&category=20385

Try copying the text

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llee2
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It's an unfortunate but common thing. I've had people even use images that I've altered to include my email address on the image. I've even gotten questions about auctions that weren't mine. The laziest person I've had just linked his auction image to my hosting URL. I fixed that by replacing the image at the URL with a rather rude photo.

I know that eBay is slow to act upon image an URL theft. Usually the auction sells through before anything is done. From my experience though, they usually send an email to the offender cautioning that what they've done is against eBay policy. If they continue, they may be suspended. I've actually had one person forward me the letter and apologizing for using my images. Don't count on the auction being pulled though unless it's a repeat offender.
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whoscloset
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YCS,

I'd appreciate it if you could e-mail me that Java Script.

Monique

Monique

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your-chic-shopper
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You like that Ah .....I have not been able to find the Java script ...I thought I had it.. I will continue to try and find it . Very nice ah???
Todd
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whoscloset
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Todd,

I really like that one! I have one that will not allow people to right click and steal images and text but it doesn't stop them from copy and paste with their left mouse button.

If you do find it please let me know!

Thanks,
Monique 🐵

Monique

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aa-surplus
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This is very intereting as I have EBAY act quickly never had an issue go longer then 24 hrs till it was dealt with. I think ebay has done a great job for me on this issue and I commend them on this.

Now why you all are having trouble with this is out of my control but just make sure you are reporting it correctly and sending the original text or photo to them as well 🙂

Cheers,

aa-surplus
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brownboxit
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I reported to ebay a similar thing & they did nothing but waste my time, made me report 3 times, each time with another lame excuse. The seller was naru'd a few weeks later for non related matters (he was ripping people off while his listings appeared to be mine, very nice.)

To make things more laughable, the seller was US based, but had copied all my canadian Expedited Shipping info word for word with the listings, I asked ebay how they could overlook the fact that he had copied shipping services word for word that he could not access via USPS!?, meaning his auctions had not way to ship... Not good enough, ebay is more often than not full of crapola.
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shooger
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I take great digital photos of every card I list, against my kitchen hardwood tabletop. I always arrange the cards in exactly the same way. My pictures, being rather well done and attractive, are sought after by sellers. I don't do anything to stop it, mostly because I really don't care. One seller, though, was saying "I took this picture myself so you can see the condition of the cards you're bidding on!" That kind of blatant lie is uncalled for, and I reported him. EBay couldn't prove that he was using stolen photos, so they did nothing. Oh well.
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ajandjamie
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Thankfully it's been awhile since anyone used my pictures, when they did the auctions were ended when i reported the use. Of course, if they copy your text, but alter it slightly, ebay will rule that it's not identical. That is my one pet peeve, if you are going to copy what someone else is selling, at least be original about it!

But my biggest laugh came just last week as i was browsing through other seller's auctions...someone who had lifted my wording maybe 1.5 years ago (long enough ago that we accepted Billpoint, or as i worded it "ebay payments") This other seller only sold something once in a blue moon using my original text from back then, and a new auction boldly states that they accept "ebay payments"...not bright enough to create their own wording, and not bright enough to read what they are posting!
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cutecoins
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I have had much the same experience as mentioned here and done almost the same. There are two things I do that seems to help.
1. Write most of my text on the picture...it doesn't allow copying.
2. make sure you write "Copyright by Bla Bla 2007" over top of the corner of your item you are selling...Include the word copyright....darn I have even miss-spelled it too... your name or initial and last name and the date.
Have not had the problem for a while.... or maybe I have but don't know it....
All the best in the three foot piles of snow...they have gone down some...
Jim B.

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During the fall this was a recurring problem for me as well, especially the pilfering of my supersized scans for out-of-print DVDs. To demonstrate both the condition and authenticity of my own offerings, I always take the time to scan them front, back, and top seal. For lazier sellers, this was something just too tempting I guess...


For the most part, those ripping-off my images responded reasonably well to a strong warning...typically, something along the lines of "Hey, that image is not stock or clip art--it's my scan of my item. Just because yours looks similar, you have no right to use mine and call it your own." But basically, I just got tired having to go through that Ask Seller A Question routine every other week.

For what it may be worth, here are my best solutions:


  • Develop a personal style of photography, scanning, and listing layout. Even if someone tries to rip you, savvy buyers will recognize your distinctive image/listing style...in fact, many eBayers will even flag you about such suspect activity. It's a kind of 'branding' which also works for you in terms of 'bidder recognition'.
  • Most of those ripping your images/text do so because they're just plain lazy...make your listings hard to block copy through use of tables, columns and other HTML layout tricks. For example, I've added an auto-sizing column to my listings which not only serves the info-flow pretty well, but also is one beggar to copy effectively. Develop an HTML template that's relatively easy for you to use, but difficult for others to make work without time consuming tinkering and tweaking. Again, we're talking mainly about laziness here as the motive for ripping. Kill 'em with complexity.
  • Add an overlay signature to your scans. Lots of ways to achieve this, and some folks have pretty much automated the process through macros in their photo-editing software. For me, it's a manual but simple process: just a scanned sig with a solid gray background that I quickly plop in through copy/paste, make transparent by sliding off the background channel under my layer options, then flatten, resize and position. Choose a strategic spot where it will be all but impossible for the ripper to remove, but still reasonably unobtrusive to the viewer. Be creative--again, there is an opportunity to promote your own image while thwarting the rippers.
  • Don't bother doing anything to scans that are going to be uploaded to eBay at the standard image/size listing resolution--no one will bother with those, and even if the do, the results when they do list will look so crappy, it won't help them anyway.
  • And finally, take heart...I think most frequent users of the system do recognize these rips when they see them, especially if they're familiar with a particular type of item or genre. They may not remember exactly where or when they saw an image before (although your regulars quite often will), but they will probably go "Ah-a...that image was taken from another listing!" or "That's another writer's style!"
  • Finally, if you are using image hosting and finding other listings linked to yours, try a rude "bait and switch". After their listing is already active, and especially after it has bids on it, simply rename your original image and substitute something nasty instead...ideally just scatological or salacious enough to get their auction pulled.


    Of course, no guarantees with any of this, but since I've implemented some of these practices, my image/listing rips have become almost non-existent.
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    BTW, you did indeed spell copyright correctly Jim.


    -- Steve
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    Seems at one point in the time we've all been victims of image theft by quick buck artist. I've also had complaints from bidders who bought stuff from someone else, and thought it was mine.

    There are a few scripts out there. Here is a neato one I found. It disables the right mouse button. People can still steal your text by left selecting it and then using the drop down copy function. This prevents the ultra lazy casual thief. The folks that do the most damage.

    One note, you must insert it manually on the E-Bay site. Turbolister won't recognize it and discards it. So you must manually revise a listing and insert it in HTML. Oh, you might wanta change the message. Just a sentiment to thiefs.



    Kelvin
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    Regarding the last message, don't worry about the manual insertion part. It works in TurboLister, just make sure it's at the very end of the HTML.

    Just seems to be fussy in my constantly changing version of Turbolister.

    -Kelvin
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    tipoftheice
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    HI,
    I was very interested in this topic as I have posted several auctions with pictures I was concerned would be copied They end on Monday(tomorrow). I just wonder if all the trouble trying to protect my images with "copyright protected" hurts the look of my pictures. It's hard to see all their details. But these stickers I'm selling could be copied and people could just print out their own. Not sure if I did the right thing. Could someone take a peak at my auctions and give me an honest opinion? Did I make it look to messy?? I appreciate any input!

    Toni
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    deltone
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    I think your auctions look lovely. I don't think the wording hampers the pics. I think most bidders get the idea.
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