eBay

robbwell · ‎10-31-2016

I committed to Buy It Now for a Netis WF2419 router sold in Canada by a seller with a very good rating.

As I was about to pay, I noticed the Seller had added 13% sales tax when it should be 5% for YT.

Before paying I sent a message asking if Seller could correct this so I could pay.

Nothing happened but on trying to buy it again I noticed the Seller is now declining purchases from me.

I didn't think this is the way eBay works.

momcqueen · ‎11-02-2016

That's what I thought. The business entity has to have a physical presence of some kind in the province to collect the provincial sales tax on that transaction.

robbwell · ‎11-02-2016

So how do you know *******canuck is in the UK?

Also, I believe all who collect GST - possibly true for PST/HST also - are required to have a tax number and display it on their invoice.

kitschnvintage · ‎11-02-2016

when I click on his user id it says UK - so a chinese seller based in the uk that drop ships from toronto I think is how the ball is bouncing ?

kitschnvintage · ‎11-02-2016

oops my mistake I really thought I saw UK under his id for some reason I must be going blind sorry about that

kitschnvintage · ‎11-02-2016

actually I'm not wrong, when I go into his store he has listings in GBP ???

pjcdn2005 · ‎11-02-2016

When I go to his store I see Cdn dollars.

i.am.vivian · ‎11-02-2016

@pjcdn2005 wrote:
There may be more than 4 wrong. They can collect gst/hst but they are only supposed to collect pst if they are located in that province.

I saw that, too. Didn't bother to mention it, because I should only pay 5% unless the seller is in my province. I find it cagey that the seller does not list a province, just rakes an extra percentage off all the sales from a nation of people who are used to paying it without question.

I am in BC and when I order something from Ontario I only pay 5% GST. For a brief time we had a blended HST so it was the total but that was short lived. A real Canadian business seller would know all about that and have to keep adjusting the charges to suit. It is another issue that has me completely convinced that this seller is elsewhere, and therefore in violation of any number of eBay policies, not to mention Canadian and International Laws.

i.am.vivian · ‎11-02-2016

@pjcdn2005 wrote:
When I go to his store I see Cdn dollars.

You do if you're in Canada. But if you go to ebay.co.uk, and ebay.com you will find listings priced in UK pounds and US dollars. Just do an Advanced search for "seller".

Total foreign drop-shipper illegally scamming taxes. Nowhere near this country and that's why they SAY Canada Post but never use CP, -- because they can't. Where the seller REALLY is, well, I know what I think.

kitschnvintage · ‎11-02-2016

The Seller's store on dot ca has US, Canada and UK listings ... you don't have to actually go to the ebay UK site or dot com site they are all "here" ... you just have to go further through the store listings and they are there ... because the Seller ships to Canada from UK and USA using GSP ... so as a Canadian you can either potentially pay too much Cdn sales tax or pay customs fees ... your choice no extra cost 🙂

i.am.vivian · ‎11-02-2016

Collecting taxes from Canadian buyers isn't an "either/or" choice that can be legally offered from a drop-shipper in another country. All this seller is doing is listing on other sites where the seller then has the item mailed to the GSP Hub instead of directly to the buyer by claiming the items to be in that country. Just like claiming the Canadian items are in Canada. They're not. Nor are the UK and US items located there. The seller and the items will be located in Asia. Unless it is something forwarded from the buyer's local Amazon. Seems clear to me.

ypdc_dennis · ‎11-02-2016

@i.am.vivian wrote:

I am in BC and when I order something from Ontario I only pay 5% GST. For a brief time we had a blended HST so it was the total but that was short lived. A real Canadian business seller would know all about that and have to keep adjusting the charges to suit. ...

That's not true. BC does require sellers outside BC to collect sales tax for them under certain conditions with the base exemption being $10000 in targeted BC sales. Difficult to enforce, particularly for internet sales, but it does exist.

https://www.thebalance.com/does-your-business-need-to-register-for-bc-pst-2948446

However, the seller has to be registered with the government before collecting taxes.

If the seller can not supply proper tax registration numbers, then they are tax scammers. And the various tax agencies tend to be very aggressive about these sort of thieves -- so feel to report,

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Elsewhere: The A-river for .CA does collect taxes for sellers who must supply their registration numbers first -- no registration number, then no tax collected.

Food for thought: If they are scamming the tax, what else are they scamming?

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pjcdn2005 · ‎11-03-2016

That's not true. BC does require sellers outside BC to collect sales tax for them under certain conditions with the base exemption being $10000 in targeted BC sales. Difficult to enforce, particularly for internet sales, but it does exist.

That probably wouldn't apply to most of us here unless we are specifically targeting BC.

i.am.vivian · ‎11-03-2016

@ypdc_dennis wrote:
BC does require sellers outside BC to collect sales tax for them under certain conditions with the base exemption being $10000 in targeted BC sales. Difficult to enforce, particularly for internet sales, but it does exist.

Pardon my suggesting that you are going to great lengths to create a non-issue to pick at. I have to wonder what "need" people have to do that. I actually live here so there is a good chance I might know how actually worked when shopping online during that brief period when we had HST. The reality was exactly what I said it was. When the weather warms up you might like to wander about all over Toronto letting people know it is illegal to swear in a public park. Or in Windsor, where they are not allowed to play an instrument in a public park. And Oshawa, where it is against the law to climb a tree. What a wonderful time you'll have.

@ypdc_dennis wrote:
the seller has to be registered with the government before collecting taxes.

If the seller can not supply proper tax registration numbers, then they are tax scammers.

Totally agree. Exactly what I said about this fake ...canuck here. A real 'canuck' would know better. I think this one registered here to rake in that extra percentage from every Cdn sale. Some of these people, they're nothing if not clever. Or maybe the account was hacked and stolen but I doubt it. Most of the FB is from this last year, only a bit from around 6 years ago. It seems a long time to sit idle.

marnotom! · ‎11-03-2016

@i.am.vivian wrote:

Pardon my suggesting that you are going to great lengths to create a non-issue to pick at. I have to wonder what "need" people have to do that.

I think it's important to consider that these boards serve more than those actually contributing to the discussion. They can be found by people doing Google searches. Somebody may be looking for information on this issue and stumble on this thread. They may find Dennis' information to be relevant to their particular search.

One person's nit-picking may be another's useful elaboration.