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10-24-2014 06:13 PM
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10-24-2014 06:17 PM
Seems the link doesn't work. I'll have to copy and paste.
National Post Oct 24 2014
OTTAWA — The Conservatives are understood to be considering new legislation that would make it an offence to condone terrorist acts online.
There is frustration in government, and among law enforcement agencies, that the authorities can’t detain or arrest people who express sympathy for atrocities committed overseas and who may pose a threat to public safety, one Conservative MP said. “Do we need new offences? If so which?”
Sources suggest the government is likely to bring in new hate speech legislation that would make it illegal to claim terrorist acts are justified online.
The Prime Minister told the House of Commons on Thursday that Canada’s law and policing powers need to be strengthened in the areas of surveillance, detention and arrest. He said work is already under way to provide law enforcement agencies with “additional tools” and that work will now be expedited.
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10-24-2014 07:05 PM
I don't think it effect's our freedom of speach.?
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10-24-2014 07:23 PM
Good stuff. Hope it's tighter laws that will help reel in some of the worst of the 90 who had their passports lifted and before they become
mujahids.
"Sources suggest the government is likely to bring in new hate speech legislation that would make it illegal to claim terrorist acts are justified online."
Wonder where I've read that justification! I've heard it on radio call in programs.
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10-25-2014 01:03 AM
Well it depends on the definitions. We could start with that overused and often misused word 'terrorism'. If the government deems something terrorist, then that's all there is to it from an authoritarian Harper point of view. History has shown that one person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist. Even the word terrorism was first used by the British to describe the American revolutionaries who are now considered heroes and fathers of the nation. I come from a long line of rebels who fought and finally won their freedom after 400 years but during that time they were labeled terrorists. So when it says in the article > "Sources suggest the government is likely to bring in new hate speech legislation that would make it illegal to claim terrorist acts are justified online." that takes freedom of speech and opinion away and a person or group can become an authorized target by the government. There are people and groups out there who are fighting for their freedom and for justice and based on the Harper government's view if someone happens to disagree with them......then those people are in deep trouble. We do not live in China or Saudi Arabia or other countries where if you disagree with the government you become an enemy of the 'state'. We live in a democracy and one of the foundations of that democracy is freedom of speech and thought and and that applies to everyone.
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10-25-2014 08:48 AM
Relax Prior, new laws will be nothing compared to this:
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10-25-2014 02:16 PM
Their lives valve, their traditions. Did you know in England they use to hang children, yes that's right 'children' for stealing something as small as a loaf of bread. Did you know that they use to burn people, especially women, who they claimed were witches! But do you know why those things don't happen anymore? Because we learned and we changed and it wasn't done at the point of someone else's gun or bombs dropping on us, we evolved on our own. These other people and their traditions will as well through education, not military ordinance. But if we start pushing them, they're going to push back and have. We are not the Marshall of the world. We are not the Moral Police. Neither are we without stains on our own hands, in our own countries.
If you believe, I mean really believe in helping women like this then open up your house to them and take them in. You have a fairly nice home and live in an affluent part of the city, they'll really appreciate your help.
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10-25-2014 02:26 PM
@Fortunatelyprior-of-verity*shake-hands-with-your-devil wrote:Their lives valve, their traditions. Did you know in England they use to hang children, yes that's right 'children' for stealing something as small as a loaf of bread. Did you know that they use to burn people, especially women, who they claimed were witches! But do you know why those things don't happen anymore? Because we learned and we changed and it wasn't done at the point of someone else's gun or bombs dropping on us, we evolved on our own. These other people and their traditions will as well through education, not military ordinance. But if we start pushing them, they're going to push back and have. We are not the Marshall of the world. We are not the Moral Police. Neither are we without stains on our own hands, in our own countries.
If you believe, I mean really believe in helping women like this then open up your house to them and take them in. You have a fairly nice home and live in an affluent part of the city, they'll really appreciate your help.
Fortunately most cultures have evolved past hanging children or burning witches.
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10-26-2014 01:17 PM
They still hang children and the mentally challenged in Texas.
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10-26-2014 03:37 PM
Please show us where they hanged a child in Texas, or any other Western country .
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10-26-2014 07:11 PM - edited 10-26-2014 07:12 PM
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10-26-2014 11:00 PM
Marvin Wilson was 54.
No children have been executed in Texas.
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10-27-2014 08:25 AM
Please take a look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_juvenile_offenders_executed_in_the_United_States_since_1976
The first one on top of the list is from Texas.
So is the third one.
So are the fifth ans sixth ones.
etc....
It is quite clear that Texas dominates the list of states where children have been executed.

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10-27-2014 08:41 AM
The youngest person on the list was 23 when they were executed. Hardly a child.
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10-27-2014 08:55 AM - edited 10-27-2014 08:56 AM
"Marvin Wilson was 54. "
That name related to mentally challenged, not children. With an IQ of 61, Wilson was considered mentally challenged legally.
http://rt.com/usa/texas-executed-wilson-court-177/
While you may argue about this and that, it does not change the theme of the discussion: other civilizations with other moral values often look at our Western society as barbaric. And they are correct in many instances.
Two wrongs never make one right but let us not be blind to our wrongs while discussing different values in other societies.

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10-27-2014 08:57 AM
However NU at 17 when the crimes were committed they were much too young to know the difference between right and killing someone. I think NU that may be Pierre's concern.
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10-28-2014 07:20 PM
Melting pot? How about cesspool! Are you aware that if everyone who was not born here voted for the same guy and all that were born here voted for another, we would be ruled by immigrants.
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10-28-2014 08:00 PM
Melting pot? How about cesspool! Are you aware that if everyone who was not born here voted for the same guy and all that were born here voted for another, we would be ruled by immigrants.
That isn't true.
Approx. 6.8 million of Canada's current population of 35 million was born somewhere else.
That means that at least 28 million was born in Canada.
In 2011, Canada had a foreign-born population of about 6,775,800 people. They represented 20.6% of the total population.
http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm/2011/as-sa/99-010-x/99-010-x2011001-eng.cfm
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Unless each day can be looked back upon by an individual
as one in which he has had some fun, some joy, some
real satisfaction, that day is a loss.
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10-29-2014 12:44 AM
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10-29-2014 04:16 PM
Melting pot? How about cesspool! Are you aware that if everyone who was not born here voted for the same guy and all that were born here voted for another, we would be ruled by immigrants
excuse me
Cesspool? unless your a First Nation or possible early Asian person (theory not proven) you are being rude to all immigrants on Ebay.
Immigrants built Canada from the ground up, who do you think built all the cities and railroads of Canada the tooth fairy.
Sure there are bad immigrants that is true in every aspect of life, get real with your cesspool comment, any normal
reader knows you take the good with the bad in life.
