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The cops really messed up with last St Patricks day and the 'riot'. They knew the area was a problem beforehand but didn't prepare. They were in the area and then left. When things started to go south they parked down the street and watched. At that point I was thinking they did it so that it would look good for more money on the next city budget.
As for the 'danger' of their jobs, they are no more dangerous and far less dangerous than many other professions that don't get paid enough money such as truck drivers, construction workers, door people at bars, hydro workers, hospital workers, farmers and the most dangerous profession they say is lumberjacks out west. I'm not saying a cops job is not dangerous but if you for instance take all the unheard of injuries and even deaths of construction workers across Canada and compare that to the yearly deaths of police the construction workers have far more. I figure the average constable should be worth about 40 to 52 grand a year tops, but they make much more.
Depends on what you mean by "tough". Knowing the area is a problem and not putting a cruiser or two there was just plain stupid. Sitting at the bottom of the street when things started to go wrong and doing nothing doesn't even have a classification. The cops blew it from the start and then just made it worse.
Stopping a car for speeding and being shot at rarely happens. You have more of a chance of being shot just for cutting someone off in the wrong city. There are many other people who work in dangerous situations all day five days a week and get paid less and they don't have guns, tazers, bullet proof vests or backup. I am not discounting that police face dangerous situations, I'm comparing their wages with the wages of others who face the same and make less in income and benefits or pensions.
Complaining about how much they make, let's look at some parasitic rip-off professions that society can almost get without, like lawyers, career politicians or real estate peddlers. Do you want the car peddlers be making double the police officer ? If officers have 80k, they deserve it way more than primary school teachers.
You're right about some of these. However lawyers and real estate agents are for the most part their own business so they can set the rates and people can chose to use them or not. A good lawyer or a good real estate agent can be worth it if they have proven themselves and they are not paid by the taxpayer.
Politicians, well don't get me started on them!
Teachers as essential as they are, I do think they get in many cases a good deal that is not equal to the work of others.
Personally I've always felt the guy in the ditch who works in the heat of the sun and the cold of winter and the pouring rain and breaks his back and comes home covered in mud and dirt just to keep the city running smooth, or working for a corporation, should be making a 100 grand a year. The nurses and support workers who have to bathe people and change diapers and clean up bodily fluids and at times be attacked and verbally abused, and watch people suffer or die, also should make a lot more money.
Why are people surprised when soldiers in a war zone - GET KILLED
And aren't paid near what cops are.
"some" people will never be happy with what the police do.
I'm happy with what 'most' cops do.....most, not all. But that's not the point. We're talking about what they make in wages and that is paid by the taxpayer and........it's getting to be a bigger and bigger invoice every year while at the same time crime is going down.
A cop I know well retired after 25-27 years (I forget exactly) on the police force. I asked him how many really dangerous situations he had been in. He said maybe two. I asked how many times he had pulled his gun. He said 'never', although he has had his hand on his gun on a few occassions. He also said he had put on 35lbs being on the police force because most of the time you're in a cruiser and driving and if you're not doing that then you're doing paperwork (a lot of that).
I do however believe that some police should be paid higher depending on the area they police, or the type of work they do, such as undercover or homicide (where you see things on a regular basis that you never forget).
maybe you should "google" the pay scale for Canadian military!
A third year private soldier makes approx 42-50 grand a year. A cop makes in some areas 75 to 100 grand a year, same length of time.
That is why in some norhtern parts of Canada they have a hard time findind teachers, doctors,police etc as why would you go to a remote location with a high cost of living to make the same that you could be making working in some smal hick town utside of London where houses are half the price etc
Incorrect. Nurses, doctors and other health professionals who go north make more money. They just don’t want to go because of the conditions and the seclusion. They would rather stay in the big city with all it’s perks and the possibility of promotion. Don’t believe me, then I recommend you “google’.
I know no one will believe this and I will have it thrown back at me later (but I am use to that and frankly don’t care), but by coincidence I have a customer out of Toronto who after 23 years of teaching police services, he is retiring. I asked him of his opinion of the police he has taught. He said the following:
- They are taught to be paramilitary and they have little understanding of people.
- He has noticed as soon as the black uniform goes on with the pants with 20 pockets, these cops change. He said many become bullies.
- Police do not get enough instruction about the psychology of people and they treat them all the same with an increasing emphasis on force, even brutality.
- If you are an officer who goes against the wishes of the rest of the ‘boys’ then you are ostracized in the group.
- And lastly he said he….. is glad he is getting out of it because of the new crop of police.
It's not an ex-cop, it's the person who has 'taught' police for 23 years.
I remember somone saying they only know as they are taught!
I was talking about children, not adults. One day when you say you "remember", you'll remember correctly.
well according to the Toronto police web-site
This may come as a shock to you, but there are other police in Ontario other than TO. If you compare everything to TO then you're always using the high end.
