I posted a add on eBay and sold the item,was in working condition when I sent it,herd from the buyer when it arrived that it was not working advised him of a trick i do with rubbing alchool here is the original post he sent back "May have just been a tight fit, also could have been the rubbing alcohol. I put it in this time and realized the clip that holds it in the pci slot wasn't cliped took a lot of force haha thanks" not to sure of what to do any advice would be helpful also should say user is a new eBayer with a 0 history