02-06-2013 01:24 PM
I spoke to 6 representatives as of today, February the 6th, 2013 and all of them agreed that I have a point, but they couldn't help me remove a negative feedback due to eBay's policy.
Here is the story:
In the past 4 years I had zero negative feedback, until not long ago a buyer who doesn't speak English bought 4 battery cases for iPhone appeared.
The listing was listed in Accessory -> Case, Cover & Skin section, and throughout the listing we made clear list of items that is included, with detailed pictures and description. Everything says the battery really is a battery but this buyer thought the battery is a phone.
Buyer panicked and ask for full refund. (wrote in terrible grammar with misspelled words and fragmental sentences) Though it was against our return policy, we accepted his request anyway and instructed him with return instruction and explained there might be restocking fee if the returned items are damaged.
Buyer panicked again. Kept saying "full refund" non-stop and filed a PayPal claim against us, which got us confused because we already offered what he asked for and as long as the return stuff is in good shape he will get his full refund.
We explained and tried to comfort him again but this time buyer left negative feedback.
So we did little research on the eBay policy and the buyer broke the followings:
1. Claiming an item is significantly not as described when the item condition is consistent with the description in the listing - item was exactly identical to the listing, just that buyer couldn't read English
2. Not following the terms of the seller's return policy - Didn't use the return authorization number we provided, didn't agree following restocking fee policy, asked for money back while only qualified for merchant credit.
3. Claiming an item is not as described in order to circumvent a seller's return policy - claiming a battery should be a phone as a reason for refund.
What eBay needs to reconsider about the feedback policy:
1. May I mention again, all 6 representatives heard my story and agreed that this is inappropriate, but they just cannot break the eBay's guideline of feedback removal.
There has to be an additional guideline for special case like this. We accepted buyers every request (against our own policy) but buyer still panicked and we had no way to communicate with someone who cannot understand English.
2. There has to be a monitored resolution record between seller and buyer, which has direct influence on qualification of feedback removal.
When buyer filed the PayPal claim he actually lost it. PayPal resolved the issue in our favour, yet eBay still wouldn't remove the feedback.
3. eBay needs to restrict new member's rights until they reach certain rating.
This specific buyer has only 10 feedbacks, so he is quite new to this environment. Registering number membership takes very little time and newbies can have the power to sabotage well established reputation in a snap, especially ones who cannot communicate and refused to resolve issue in a peaceful manner.
Please advice
02-06-2013 01:33 PM
Sorry but you will have to move on and accept eBay's policy does not allow for the removal of the feedback.
The problem is simple : your listing clearly showed what appears to me to be a iphone!
http://6degreesmobile.com/product_images/uploaded_images/mipow-clone-1.jpg
One cannot blame the buyer exclusively for misunderstanding what he was buying.
02-06-2013 01:55 PM
Its a completely normal way to show an accessory product with something like an iphone and the listing is clear on what is offered. Agree something should be done about sellers being punished over bad fb left for any reason (or no reason) the buyer wished, but it isn't likely to happen anytime soon
02-06-2013 02:05 PM
While on the whole I agree with you that eBay should either monitor feedback more closely or drop it entirely, I also have worked retail for many years and dealing with customers working in their second language can be a challenge for both merchant and buyer.
If this ever comes up again, try sending your message in the customer's language, using GoogleTranslate or a similar service. It can be helpful.
Since there was obviously already a problem, then this was adding to it not helping:
2. Not following the terms of the seller's return policy - Didn't use the return authorization number we provided, didn't agree following restocking fee policy, asked for money back while only qualified for merchant credit.
If he can't understand that he was buying a battery and not a phone, how did you expect him to understand all that?
You should understand that eBay/Paypal returns are much simpler. Return the item (with Delivery Confirmation) get a full refund of all your original payment.
Personally, I would be annoyed if, on returning unsatisfactory goods, I was offered only a merchandise credit. Only if an item is not working should a replacement be offered and even then refund remains on the table.
02-06-2013 02:08 PM
Many sellers will put something in a photo that is not for sale...
and then forget to say that the sale is not for that additional item.
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Ran into a situation with a set of 6 books banked by two gorgeous bookends in the photo.
Seller did not say bookends were not included.
Sent an email... and listing was immediately revised... Bookends are not for sale.
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List a vase with flowers in the vase in the photo.... Buyer says where are my flowers... Seller says vase only... but it was never noted that flowers were not included in the listing..
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It may seem logical to have "that" in the photo... but if it is not for sale... why put it in the photo?
02-06-2013 03:03 PM
I agree that the FB system is unfair.
I have no idea how to change it though because it's the only thing that keeps some sellers under control.
You mention that 6 reps were on your side.............. that means diddly squat. Some of the things they've told me have been out of this world stupid crazy and just plain dumb.
I don't see anything wrong with your listing per se, but your buyer did............. that's what matters.
IMO bringing up things like "restocking fees" with a buyer is just such a bad idea even when there is no language barrier.
I wonder if that wasn't your biggest mistake?
That said: I'm sorry it happened to you. You didn't deserve NFB but there are some firecrackers out there when handling one that's lit you have to be very very careful.
02-06-2013 04:10 PM
""" When buyer filed the PayPal claim he actually lost it. PayPal resolved the issue in our favour................ """
Just curious: Are you saying that the buyer filed a claim to return the 4 items and lost the claim thus being stuck with 4 unwanted cases?
02-07-2013 09:26 AM
This message is to femmefan1946:
I know I am nowhere near a Top-Rated seller yet but looking at your listings please help me understand how you can sell an item for 9.99 and charge ship rate for 9.99 and maintain your Top-Rate seller status.
I am in Canada and I ship on the day of payment, only charge what CP charges me, not a penny more, send good communication and try to describe to a tee however my stars rate 4.8 on shipping and handling?????
At this rate forget TOP RATED SELLER Status. I give up...