05-16-2023 10:46 PM
05-17-2023 01:08 AM
Caveat emptor.
It's Latin (but you already knew that) and that's because it is a problem that has existed for thousands of years.
BUYER BEWARE
And not just eBay. Not just online.
until I found all of their exact product and identical photos on mercari under many different seller accounts.
EBay does not discourage dropshipping, which is a system in which a reseller contracts with the supplier to find customers.
But
It’s unique artwork, so it isn’t something that can be sold more than once or in the possession of multiple people
The dropshipping eBay allows is the one with the contract. Both supplier and reseller know the score.
What you are talking about is NOT allowed. The supplier has to be a willing party to the transaction.
(It is not required to let the buyer know.)
If your seller cancelled your purchase as "out of stock" they got a Defect on their selling account. Those are Very Bad News for sellers.
If the seller cancelled "at buyer request" you can report that to eBay (I'd suggest one of the social media covered by eBay reps) and again the seller may get a Defect.
On a tangent.
It’s unique artwork,
There's not much artwork that is truly unique these days. What medium was being used?
You could even post the number of the listing that you are annoyed about, just not the name of the seller.
05-17-2023 06:13 PM
05-17-2023 08:35 PM
....so I politely declined and was refunded “at my request”. ...and only then did they refund at buyer request.
As you likely know, "at buyer request" is a fault -free option.
The scammer has no penalty for the failed transaction even when it is blatantly dishonest.
I'm actually shocked by this, because one of my prejudices is that the Japanese are meticulously honest. Of course, just as we Canadians often list on eBay dotCOM, others can list on eBay dotCO dotJP.
Those are adorable! I had to google them, because I had them confused with netsuke.
And then I Searched and two listings for the same item showed up on the first page of my Search (I use Highest Price First ) and that with only 500+ lisitngs.
Could you have the Security team look into this?
The two I spotted were 314553191552 and 166076453049. A third showed up when I looked at these in the Sponsored Items 155500995409
05-18-2023 10:49 AM
@reallynicestamps wrote:
....so I politely declined and was refunded “at my request”. ...and only then did they refund at buyer request.
As you likely know, "at buyer request" is a fault -free option.
The scammer has no penalty for the failed transaction even when it is blatantly dishonest.
I'm actually shocked by this, because one of my prejudices is that the Japanese are meticulously honest. Of course, just as we Canadians often list on eBay dotCOM, others can list on eBay dotCO dotJP.
Those are adorable! I had to google them, because I had them confused with netsuke.
And then I Searched and two listings for the same item showed up on the first page of my Search (I use Highest Price First ) and that with only 500+ lisitngs.
Could you have the Security team look into this?
The two I spotted were 314553191552 and 166076453049. A third showed up when I looked at these in the Sponsored Items 155500995409
Hi @reallynicestamps! Thank you for sharing this with me and I will be sure to have these listings passed along to the Trust and Safety team.
05-21-2023 12:08 PM - edited 05-21-2023 12:13 PM
Thank you! I am not trying to target any international sellers, in fact many of the eBay listings by actual kokeshi sellers in Japan are being lost amidst this continuous grabbing and using of endless photos and listings found on mercari. Most individual sellers will only have a limited number of options available, so are not continuously posting new items. Because the potential resellers (who have yet to even bid on the item they’re selling) are posting pictures of almost every and any kokeshi listing they see, honest sellers are buried and less likely to find buyers for their items. All of the stolen images and items are from jp.mercari.com and a lot of the actual listings can be found under the search “こけし” (kokeshi). It’s also not the case that it’s the same seller using an eBay account since many accounts will use photos from many different sellers.
I think re-listing other seller’s products was just discovered to be profitable, diminishes the risk of something not selling or having to keep an inventory/storage and if an item sells out, that’s typically put on the unknowing buyer (unless you’re really assertive about changing the refund to sold out/seller’s request, which I only did after suspecting it was a scam). It harms eBay sellers too, so I don’t know why this practice has become so prevalent (at least for this particular search).
Again it’s always a singular, unique item being listed by three or four different sellers, none of which have made an actual purchase and are highly unlikely to have any agreement or contract with the real seller. Because they’re posting so many listings, they spend little time monitoring whether the mercari listing is still available. When someone unknowingly tries to purchase it here, they’ll finally check the original listing (likely for the first time since they’ve posted theirs). And again, these tens or hundreds of new listings are flooding out actual sellers with actual products that they’re entitled to sell.