$50,000 Fine For Seller if Caught Lying About CoO

[wilsonharborsales]

I have been speaking with a shipper this morning who had an entire load rejected at the border because a package was opened by a customs official and the item was improperly declared.  If the item is made in China/Hong Kong or 51% or more of the product is made in China/Kong, you are NOT to ship those items with carriers at this time.  I believe that only DHL, FedEx and UPS are currently brokering Made in China items.  In the case of the rejected load, the shipper (the small business who lied on the form) will be fined $50,000 as well as the costs for the load being rejected (hundreds of thousands of dollars).

Please do not try and sneak things through by lowering the value or lying on the CoO form.  The company I spoke with is furious over the rejected load, as they had spent 14 hours trying to clear it at the border and one small time t-shirt seller got the entire thing rejected.  Load rejections will lead to suspensions and below standard metrics for other e-commerce sellers who have packages on that load as the trucks and planes continually get rejected and the packages don't receive their USPS acceptance scans.

[sin-n-dex]

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@wilsonharborsales wrote:

I have been speaking with a shipper this morning who had an entire load rejected at the border because a package was opened by a customs official and the item was improperly declared.  If the item is made in China/Hong Kong or 51% or more of the product is made in China/Kong, you are NOT to ship those items with carriers at this time.  I believe that only DHL, FedEx and UPS are currently brokering Made in China items.  In the case of the rejected load, the shipper (the small business who lied on the form) will be fined $50,000 as well as the costs for the load being rejected (hundreds of thousands of dollars).

Please do not try and sneak things through by lowering the value or lying on the CoO form.  The company I spoke with is furious over the rejected load, as they had spent 14 hours trying to clear it at the border and one small time t-shirt seller got the entire thing rejected.  Load rejections will lead to suspensions and below standard metrics for other e-commerce sellers who have packages on that load as the trucks and planes continually get rejected and the packages don't receive their USPS acceptance scans.

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Is it Stallion? My Monday shipped item came back to Stallion and my Wednesday shipped items have not gone over yet, they're still showing as processing.

My items are clearly marked on them where they are from, we might have some exceptions of tokens that commemorate a person where you can figure who made it (like a US presidential medallion).

C.

[sin-n-dex]

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@carlmarxx wrote:

Vintage toys  have  never  been   issue  with tarifff's  since it is for  current  production  good's   .   

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I hope you're right! Not sure if things may have changed in this crazy new ever-changing the rules world!

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There's no distinction (that I'm aware of) between new and used goods in Trump's executive orders. If it's made in China (or Hong Kong), the tariff applies.  Other countries may have carveouts for vintage toys, etc in the tariffs that they charge.

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Stallion says Hong Kong coins that are 100 years old, or stamps with Queen Elizabeth are subject to tariff.

I took mine down until things are sorted out and I know what I'm supposed to do if one sells, one option is to use Canada Post (where people will expect tariffs), the other option is to pay the tariffs if Stallion allows these items to ship with tariffs paid.

C.

[tryubik-useonlyasdirected]

Have you found this in writing anywhere? I'm seeing conflicting reports and have not seen anything official as of yet showing that this new stunt of l'orange stupide is following standard protocols. While I'm following this rule of thumb (and don't really sell chinese items anyhow) it would be nice to have it in writing from an official reference.

[tryubik-useonlyasdirected]

If we're honest we should be trying to utilize Canada Post anyhow. The cost is on the buyer, the service is better, and they don't charge customers often illegal brokerage fees.

[tryubik-useonlyasdirected]

I suspect this is them being overcautious more than actually knowing the facts on the ground. The exectutive order didn't seem particularly well drawn out, illegal or not. We have a strict Canada Post only policy unless it meets oversized or over de minimis rules anyhow. This way we are supporting quality jobs in both countries as well as providing quality items.

[carlmarxx]

Here in U.S.  there  where new  protocol's  in place   to exempt  good's already  imported  in the wearhouse's and on shelfs  . this done  years back  before Orange butterball 45/47   during the  last trade  war's  . mined you this was before  there was  a Maga . 

[ilikehockeyjerseys]

Yeah, you can usually get a hint towards what they might need if you had the Canada Post HS lookup.

For example, instead of hockey jersey I might write men's 100 percent polyester hockey jersey, since the HS code lookup seems to distinguish between whether it's for adults or kids, and what percent of man made fabrics are used.

That is at least my interpretation of how to do it. I could be wrong.

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@carlmarxx wrote:

There is a distinction  between new and used goods  , Orange Buttballs  executive orders  will be over turned in  court .  over good's already  here  be it 40 years  sitting around .

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There is no distinction, it is irrelevant as far as Customs is concerned, find me any references to new vs used on any Tariff schedule from the US, Canada, UK, EU etc etc. (excepting certified antiques which I think are still set at 125 years just as it was when I bought back vintage kimonos from Japan in 1970.

The Trump tariffs on China have overwhelming support in DC from both parties, the elimination of the de minimis exemption for China is also widely supported. I don't think either will be changed.

Even the shmucks on the street think it's great although when the prices rise as a result they may not be so happy.

One group that won't be happy is Bezos, Amazon just finished establishing a spin off site specifically for sub $20 items sold and shipped from third party sellers located in China. This was done to compete with Temu which has been funnelling billions of Dollars of business away from eBay, etsy, Amazon, Wal-Mart etc.