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tryubik-useonlyasdirected · ‎02-05-2025

How are we handling antique or old items from China? Are they handled the same?

i.e. A 150 year old piece of Chinese porcelain? I mean, it's ridiculous to apply tarrif's on this is it not? (Not that ridiculous isn't the l'orange stupide's middle name.)

fh991586 · ‎02-05-2025

Unfortunately, Canadians have no say in how the USA will proceed with his tariff policy regarding other countries.
But if you plan on shipping any chinese item to the USA, even from Canada, you will experience difficulties right now.

byto253 · ‎02-05-2025

I don't think it has ever mattered with regards to indicating the country of origin for customs purposes. Duties for items over $800 were assessed according to the HS code product classification and unless there is an HS Code category for ancient items the age of a product does not matter. This is international as well.

In a blanket tariff applying to country of origin, such as been applied to China by the US, I don't see where there would be an exception based on age. And with the $800 de minimus removed some products may have an existing tariff in place that is in excess of 10%.

sin-n-dex · ‎02-05-2025

@tryubik-useonlyasdirected wrote:
How are we handling antique or old items from China? Are they handled the same?

i.e. A 150 year old piece of Chinese porcelain? I mean, it's ridiculous to apply tarrif's on this is it not? (Not that ridiculous isn't the l'orange stupide's middle name.)

I'm in the same boat, I've got items from Hong Kong that are 100 years old (coins and banknotes, stuff with dates), I also have Hong Kong stamps with Queen Elizabeth.

Not sure how they're handling that, took everything down while I wait to find out what they're going to do.

C.

reallynicestamps · ‎02-05-2025

@devon@ebay

Another twist to draw to the attention of your crew.

tryubik-useonlyasdirected · ‎02-05-2025

There are HS Codes that specify age, we use them frequently. Over the years we've also run into direct issues with Country of Origin, as Italian items can sometimes trigger strange duty (though we havent' run into this in well over a decade, its more they like it specified).

When you are filling out the customs form a good rule of thumb is i.e. 'antique glass vase (two-digit country for origin)' it saves a bundle of questions. If it's over the de minimis and antique (greater than 100 years) and you send i.e. FedEx there are also Antiques Declaration forms that are required.

Items over a certain age often come with duty and other exceptions. In the old day tariff's and duty often didn't apply to items that were being repatriated as it was considered increasing the wealth of the nation.

tryubik-useonlyasdirected · ‎02-05-2025

This^ right?! Don't even get me started with trying to sort out Country of Origin for antiques from Europe.

Oh no, sorry to hear you have taken that route. This is all so unnecessary.

mrdutch1001 · ‎02-05-2025

agreed. Although, I was never into "Made in C***a" products new,used,or vintage; have sold some Japanese vintage over the years but mostly been more true to North American vintage items. Thankfully, all but a handful of vintage items left and those are being sold via FB Marketplace.

devon@ebay · ‎02-05-2025

@reallynicestamps wrote:

@devon@ebay

Another twist to draw to the attention of your crew.

Hi @reallynicestamps! I will be sure to have this passed to the appropriate team.

byto253 · ‎02-05-2025

Great info. Love to learn something new. Thanks.

sin-n-dex · ‎02-05-2025

I received word from Stallion, if it's from China or Hong Kong, does not matter the vintage or whether or not Hong Kong was part of China at the time it was made, it's subject to tariffs.

Macau which is part of China, is not included in the tariff.

A senior member of the Stallion team responded to me, so I'm taking their comments to be accurate. I guess CBP doesn't want to sort out when stuff was made (kind of like the pre embargo vs current embargo goods).

Also as an interesting aside, in the US sellers forum, lots of people think the tariff applies only to items shipped from China, and have failed to understand it's on Chinese made goods shipped from any country. Stallion is now requiring country of origin and tariff code for US shipments.

There is one reprieve, if the tariffs are later applied to Canada, perhaps it will be on Canadian made goods, those of us that have goods from other countries will still be able to ship without tariffs. (But I'm not sure if they'll just discriminate against all shipments from Canada as being Canadian made, I'm sure shipments from China are assumed to be Chinese-made goods).

C.

reallynicestamps · ‎02-05-2025

Interesting that the US State Department /USPS/ Border Authority does not realize that Macau is a part of China.

Originally it was a Portugese colony.

Perhaps they think Portugal is part of Spain? Or Puerto Rico?

38e_avenue · ‎02-05-2025

@sin-n-dex wrote:

Stallion is now requiring country of origin and tariff code for US shipments

I use mainly CP TP since last April. The shipping labels contain HS code and country of origin.

Hopefully, it's enough. To all international shipments I add also the packing slip outside of the package.

Until now, I always wrote "Canada", even if only 1% of my inventory is Canadian (most of my items were imported from UK, Germany, France, Italy, and USA).

tryubik-useonlyasdirected · ‎02-06-2025

I typically update things to contemporary space-time i.e. Austria or Germany or Canada as they don't have duty etc anyhow but from now on for antiques I'm tempted to put the actual country of origin and they can figure out a two digit code for i.e. Silesia or Prussia or New France. Other times this is simply not possible because things were made *waves hand somewhere over there in a different space-time* and frankly its not known. What it is is perfectly acceptable and above board healthy person to person level trade. So much of this is about trust.