Confused about a tariff shipping situation China made, bought in US, brought to Canada, selling toUS

[northstardc4m]

So this isn't going to be a common issue i get it but ill lay it all out...

So i have a collectible made in China in the early 1980s. Says "Make In the Peoples Republic of China" engraved on it clearly. (yes it says make not made very clearly, and yes the full PRC name is there as well... but all the items like this are the same so it's correct)

I bought it in the US at a comicon type event, and have a receipt, was chaged sales tax, etc. There is a serial number. This was 12 years ago.

I brought it back to Canada, I was under the exemption limit for customs including it for the trip so no paperwork there.

I now want to sell it and the buyer will likely be in the US.

The way i read it it should not have any tariff applied to it? Or does it... and if it could be avoided how can i ship it with the purchase documented to avoid the tariffs?

[flipistics]

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@northstardc4m wrote:

So this isn't going to be a common issue i get it but ill lay it all out...

So i have a collectible made in China in the early 1980s. Says "Make In the Peoples Republic of China" engraved on it clearly. (yes it says make not made very clearly, and yes the full PRC name is there as well... but all the items like this are the same so it's correct)

I bought it in the US at a comicon type event, and have a receipt, was chaged sales tax, etc. There is a serial number. This was 12 years ago.

I brought it back to Canada, I was under the exemption limit for customs including it for the trip so no paperwork there.

I now want to sell it and the buyer will likely be in the US.

The way i read it it should not have any tariff applied to it? Or does it... and if it could be avoided how can i ship it with the purchase documented to avoid the tariffs?

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As far as I understand it, Trump's tariffs apply to everything made in China and Taiwan that crosses the border into the USA. It doesn't matter whether it was made yesterday or 1000 years ago. I'd suggest putting it up for sale and excluding the USA for now, or just hold onto it until all this nonsense eventually goes away.

[sapphyres-designer-jewellery]

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@flipistics wrote:

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@northstardc4m wrote:

So this isn't going to be a common issue i get it but ill lay it all out...

So i have a collectible made in China in the early 1980s. Says "Make In the Peoples Republic of China" engraved on it clearly. (yes it says make not made very clearly, and yes the full PRC name is there as well... but all the items like this are the same so it's correct)

I bought it in the US at a comicon type event, and have a receipt, was chaged sales tax, etc. There is a serial number. This was 12 years ago.

I brought it back to Canada, I was under the exemption limit for customs including it for the trip so no paperwork there.

I now want to sell it and the buyer will likely be in the US.

The way i read it it should not have any tariff applied to it? Or does it... and if it could be avoided how can i ship it with the purchase documented to avoid the tariffs?

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As far as I understand it, Trump's tariffs apply to everything made in China and Taiwan that crosses the border into the USA. It doesn't matter whether it was made yesterday or 1000 years ago. I'd suggest putting it up for sale and excluding the USA for now, or just hold onto it until all this nonsense eventually goes away.

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Don't you mean China and Hong Kong?

I wasn't aware Taiwan was subject to tariffs with no de minimis (at least I can't find anything about that online).

C.

[sapphyres-designer-jewellery]

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@northstardc4m wrote:

So this isn't going to be a common issue i get it but ill lay it all out...

So i have a collectible made in China in the early 1980s. Says "Make In the Peoples Republic of China" engraved on it clearly. (yes it says make not made very clearly, and yes the full PRC name is there as well... but all the items like this are the same so it's correct)

I bought it in the US at a comicon type event, and have a receipt, was chaged sales tax, etc. There is a serial number. This was 12 years ago.

I brought it back to Canada, I was under the exemption limit for customs including it for the trip so no paperwork there.

I now want to sell it and the buyer will likely be in the US.

The way i read it it should not have any tariff applied to it? Or does it... and if it could be avoided how can i ship it with the purchase documented to avoid the tariffs?

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It's outside of the US now, so to bring it back in there will be tariffs.

I'm afraid there's no easy way around this, and if you ship it to your buyer via UPS or FedEx they may have to pay a $150 fee ($50 brokerage and $100 flat package fee for import, provided $100 is less than the tariffs they would charge).

C.

[flipistics]

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@sapphyres-designer-jewellery wrote:

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until all this nonsense eventually goes away.

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Don't you mean China and Hong Kong?

I wasn't aware Taiwan was subject to tariffs with no de minimis (at least I can't find anything about that online).

C.

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Sorry. Yes, that's what I meant.

[reallynicestamps]

While you are right and Taiwan is an independent nation, the USA has not recognized that status officially since - sometime around Nixon.

Mark it correctly- as Taiwan- and expect that your buyer will pay the tariff on Taiwanese made goods.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%E2%80%93United_States_relations

[sapphyres-designer-jewellery]

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@reallynicestamps wrote:

While you are right and Taiwan is an independent nation, the USA has not recognized that status officially since - sometime around Nixon.

Mark it correctly- as Taiwan- and expect that your buyer will pay the tariff on Taiwanese made goods.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%E2%80%93United_States_relations

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On Stallion's website you can indicate goods are made in Taiwan or Macau (which Google says does not have the tariff, but Chit Chats is treating Macau goods the same as China), and it will come up with USPS shipping as regular like every other country (except China/HK). I shipped a banknote made in Taiwan after the tariffs started and the buyer received it fine. It went with Stallion via USPS (clearing the border with their truck of items). I printed off a copy of the page in the catalogue with that banknote for Customs to identify it if they decided to open the package.

C.

[sapphyres-designer-jewellery]

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@flipistics wrote:

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@sapphyres-designer-jewellery wrote:

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until all this nonsense eventually goes away.

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Don't you mean China and Hong Kong?

I wasn't aware Taiwan was subject to tariffs with no de minimis (at least I can't find anything about that online).

C.

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Sorry. Yes, that's what I meant.

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I found this by searching (after reading one of the posts):

I don't know if I lack English skills or what, but it seems the statement contradicts itself.

C.

[cottagewoman]

Umm - Taiwan does have it's own country designation, it has a 2 letter country code of TW.  You may want to inform any potential buyer that some idiot at US CBP might not understand that fact, and they may be charged tariffs.  They are registered with the WTO as a separate entity from China:

WTO Membership:

Taiwan participates in the World Trade Organization under the name "Separate Customs Territory of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu

[cottagewoman]

Confirmed that in 2023 a trade agreement between the US and Taiwan was put into place.  They are not treated one in the same as China.

[reallynicestamps]

@sapphyres-designer-jewellery 

It's AI and cannot be trusted.

If AI doesn't have an answer it will "hallucinate" one.

If AI has contradictory answers, it will give both without weighing them.