My Nightmare Before Christmas

The story begins a little less than a week ago, Friday night about 9 pm CST. I get a message from the buyer as part of the Request Total service after purchase that they need this item in time for Christmas, can I please quote them a postage cost that will see that happen.

 

Hmm. Buyer is in Florida. I'm in Winnipeg. Tracked Packet USA is no longer an option, Xpresspost USA is delivered in five business days and TIGHT with it being technically one day or two now past that by the time this starts moving on Monday so I do some research into Priority which ebay likes to pretend doesn't exist since there is no option to quote it on Calculated Shipping or even use it as a line on an invoice. 

 

Priority USA will get it there in one to two business days and will cost $68-74 depending on what if any discount I can get when I print the label directly through Canada Post EST. I quote the buyer the delivery times and costs for Xpresspost USA and a self-subsidized rate amount and delivery standard for Priority USA. She picks and pays for Priority. We talk. This is for her son, he wants it more than anything else for Christmas, he has special needs it is very very important it arrive in time for Christmas. 

 

I assure her I understand. I promise her I will pack it tonight and print a label tomorrow and take it directly to the postal counter as soon as it opens on Saturday morning. I do that.

 

It's 9:10 am on Saturday morning in Winnipeg and the temperature is minus -490 degrees Celsius with the windchill and I am at the authorized agent nearest me. The regular lady isn't working, the staff person who's manned (womanned) the counter for 20 years but it’s open so that’s all that matters. 

 

I give the parcel to the new girl. I ask for some clarification about exactly how many business days it will take to get to Florida. She is confused, and doesn’t know. She’s holding it in her hands and says, “Where is it going?” to which I reply with concern that the label is somehow illegible to her, “You cannot tell?” because the type size is about six points and I thought it hard to read myself so I outlined the destination in yellow highlighter. Maybe no one can read it? This might pose a problem. But, no, she just hadn't attempted to read it. 

 

She gets all huffy. “It would have told you how many business days when you bought the label.” I said, “Yes, but it didn’t make sense that it told me zero days.” “Zero days is not a thing,” she says. “I know,” I said, “that is why I’m asking you.”

 

Annoyed she has to weight this now to get a delivery estimate. “Did you pay $74 to buy this label?” she asks. I say, “No, I paid $68.14 because I used my Solutions for Small Business Card for the modest discount.”

 

She tells me the guarantee delivery is for Dec. 20. Fine. I am satisfied. As I turn to leave, I ask her if I can get the receipt to show I dropped it off. She says no, and that I already have a receipt because I bought it online. I tell her that she can print a receipt here that shows it was accepted because I get one all the time. She huffs again and does that, telling me that I don’t have to be so NASTY about everything. 

 

At this point, I have just been accused of being NASTY because I asked this person three questions to which she didn’t know the answers. I really wasn’t being nasty. I gave her no attitude there was no tone, I just wanted to mail a package. I explained that wasn’t nastiness and I didn’t appreciate being accused of that as a customer to my embarrassment at the people standing in line behind me. She tells me that she’s unconcerned because she’s the store manager. Remember this is an authorized dealer inside a drug store. Maybe she's a manager of some aspect of the store but it's not the postal counter, I can tell you that.

 

I take my Acceptance Scan Receipt and seethe all the way home. Nasty. I call the 1-800-number to complain to Canada Post about how I was treated rudely when I did nothing worse than ask questions to which she had no answers and it made her feel inadequate I suppose, and that they’ve staffed their counter with someone who knows less than the people she’s attempting to serve. The Customer Service Rep is apologetic and I take an incident number for my complaint.

 

I watch tracking for this because, after all, it is important. Priority USA is a weird hybrid service where Canada Post outsources the parcel to FedEx for movement across the border so it shows only Electronic Information Submistted and Accepted at the Post Office until mid-afternoon on Dec. 20 at which point I decide this is not right and I call Canada Post.

 

Sure enough, the parcel is nowhere to be found. Not delivered, not even locatable within the postal system. Apparently, what is supposed to happen when a customer (me) brings in a Priority package is that the agent (nasty girl) calls Canada Post head office to have them schedule a pick-up with FedEx to get the ball rolling and it goes from there.

 

That did not happen. I speak with three people at Canada Post, initiate a high-priority trace and explain my situation with the buyer and promise and her child with special needs. “Do you have another one you can send?” is the question they all ask. 

 

As I am opening a claim with FedEx for the lost parcel and standing at the top of a ladder with a phone in one hand and two dozen diecasts airplanes in another, I find a spare to send the lady and create an account with FedEx so I can ship it directly with them and I have a pick-up scheduled within the hour. FedEx man comes, takes my package away, it’s in Tennessee within two hours and was delivered ahead of schedule to my buyer in Florida today.

 

I gave my buyer an abbreviated (polite) explanation as to the reason I was sending her another and thanked her in advance for her patience. 

 

What do you think happened to my original package? I have a sneaking suspicion the drug store employee pulled the postal equivalent of a ‘waiter spitting in your food’ and when I mentioned the trouble I had that morning on drop-off to the senior CSR at CPC, she was shocked and suggested the same thing as my worst fear: that the girl dumped it into lettermail or filed it under G because she was angry with me for asking questions that made her feel stupid.

 

This is the very reason I compulsively watch tracking on my outbound packages. I made a promise to my buyer and it would have been broken had I not taken matters into my own hands and fixed it before the buyer knew there had been a problem.

 

Gave her my word as both a mother and a toy seller that she would have this for Christmas and, come heck or high water, she now does.

 

The end.

 

I wonder if FedEx will reimburse me for the lost package. It seems odd that it becomes their responsibility to do so when it never reached them at all. We'll see. 

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Except that they lost it, and I had to send another or break my promise to the buyer who NEEDED IT for Christmas.
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I intend to call Canada Post back to follow-up on my original incident report about the rudeness of the worker with a complete breakdown of what happened afterwards. As a customer, I find this to be unacceptable. I cannot do my job as a seller if I have to micromanage what my carrier is supposed to be doing


 

Not only is that sort of treatment unacceptable but in this instance it cost you a lot of money.  After your earlier posts I figured the clerk put your package into the "Surface Mail" bin once you left the store.  A sly and cowardly thing to do.  Did she think you wouldn't know?  Did she think you wouldn't guess who did it?  This is worse than underhanded, it has cost you money.  Someone somewhere owes you your item (or it's value) and the postage cost of having to resend the item.  Unfortunately the post office won't be docking the clerk's salary for that but it would certainly cure her of doing such a thing to anyone again.  I hope you have a really fun evening then to take your mind off 'work'.   🙂  

 

 

 

 

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Supposedly. Worldwide Priority is the fastest service available.

... and presumably priority should mean just that!   

 

The moment the counter person saw Priority Post, she should have been giving that parcel her full attention and giving you top service.  Even if she was completely untrained (actually especially if she was untrained and just an emergency fill-in person), she should have immediately been on the phone to someone at Canada Post who could walk her through the steps required to get that parcel properly and promptly dealt with.  If I'm not mistaken, most postal outlets also have binders full of directives and information on the various CPC services. 

 

If her problem was ignorance of CPC services, it would have been a simple matter to refer to one or the other source for information. There is no excuse for mishandling your parcel, and even less for being rude about it.  It's hard to imagine someone being so vindictive as to deliberately misdirect or ignore your parcel, but that is the other possibility. 

 

If this place is a drugstore or convenience-type store, I think I'd be in touch with the upper echelons of management after the holidays to lodge a formal complaint.  The monetary loss to you is only part of the issue.  Had you not acted quickly to remedy the situation with your buyer, it could have had serious repercussions for your seller reputation on eBay. 

 

I consider myself very fortunate in having a "real" post office with exceptionally well informed and thoroughly trained people at the counter.   I have to add that they are Canada Post (union) employees, which means this is a career for them, and they take their jobs seriously.  I do think it makes all the difference.  I've had the opposite when I lived in Victoria, BC and had only a drugstore postal outlet to deal with -- an endless parade of minimally-trained, bumbling, feckless post-teenagers with no appreciation for the gravitas of their job.  

 

The way I see it, FedEx is responsible to you for actual non-delivery, but the private company that allowed such a person to be behind the postal counter (along with Canada Post itself) is answerable to you for the manner in which your parcel and you were treated.  There is no question that you are due a full refund at least, and a personal apology from someone, at best.  In writing.  

 

By the way, do you have an official Canada Post Office anywhere within reasonable driving distance where you could hand over important parcels like this?  It shouldn't be necessary to have to do this, but it might be safer if you ever need to use Priority again.  Personally, I'd expect a postal employee to practically jump up at the sight of a "Priority" parcel -- they know what the sender is paying for the service. 

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A dictionary definition of "priority": 

 

"priority -- The state of having most importance or urgency."

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I meant to ask -- were you able to get the discounted rates for FedEx through eBay when you had to pay for the second shipment?  

 

I was curious to know, just in case I ever have to turn to FedEx. 

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Actually, I didn't use ebay to sign up for FedEx.

 

I was on the phone with FedEx Customer Service scheduling a pickup while packing the new order and generally having a very high level of anxiety and it didn't even occur to me to do it any other way than on my own since FedEx is offering new small business 30 per cent discounts for six months which I believe is the same as the ebay deal.

 

Also, I have read stories on an industry blog (Or maybe ebay Community USA?) that assert there is much trouble to claim losses if packages are damaged or go missing this way because FedEx expects ebay to open the case as the client and not the seller. Red Tape galore.

 

My original package was intercepted while out for delivery in Florida and returned. It is presently sitting on my desk. Along with a GIGANTIC GIFT BASKET FROM FEDEX thanking me for joining their family. I repeat, giant gift basket of chocolates and wafers. Completely unexpected. Yum. How sweet is that? 

 

It would seem FedEx values its new clients. My bill for shipping the replacement package arrived in my email inbox today too. It cost less with my new-client-discount than sending the original via Canada Post.

 

I don't suppose Canada Post has any inkling of exactly how badly this mistake that person made will cost them. I'll make that call to them later. They need to know. What happened to me with this was inexcusable. And it pushed me straight into the open arms of a competitor. One who comes bearing gifts. For less. And collected the parcel from my doorstep.

 

If I worked in senior management with Canada Post, reading this thread would turn my hair white overnight.

 

 

 

 

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Don't know the reason it's appearing sideways but here's the loot from my new best friends.image.jpeg

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What a wonderful gesture!!  Enjoy them!!

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The irony of your gift basket from FedEx is that they were almost as much a victim of the original delivery fiasco as you were.  I imagine someone, somewhere at FedEx seeing a Priority parcel arrive in their hands already late and having a conniption over it.  At least it seems the message around all this got passed up the line to someone in management who directed the gift basket be sent to you.  That's how you win over a customer.  Canada Post should take note. 

 

At any rate, in my estimation the main responsibility for your fubar experience rests with the private company who permitted that person to handle the Canada Post counter in their store, and -- to a lesser degree -- Canada Post itself, for not ensuring management of the store was up to the task.  If the woman really was the manager of the store, it's even worse.  And if this was a Shopper's Drugs, etc. sort of store, head office needs to be told.  They're really the ones who owe you a gift basket and an apologetic letter.  

 

If Canada Post can't guarantee better service by this outlet, they should take their contract away from that store and give it to an outlet that understands the seriousness and importance of handling mail.  The "manager's" actions and behaviour were gross negligence at best, or willful negligence at worst, and in most circumstances would be grounds for Canada Post to terminate the store's contract.  

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I have still to place a follow-up call to Canada Post to alert them to the outcome of her actions and, at the store level, some detective work. I want to first speak to the woman who's worked at that counter for 20 years before calling the chain corporate office for the drug store.
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@mjwl2006 wrote:
I have still to place a follow-up call to Canada Post to alert them to the outcome of her actions and, at the store level, some detective work. I want to first speak to the woman who's worked at that counter for 20 years before calling the chain corporate office for the drug store.

Tread carefully, the girl could be a relative.  

 

If, however, the woman SHARES your views on this, ask her if she would verifiy this if Canada Post wishes to contact her about it. Then when (if) you make the call CP will have a reference contact.  

 

 

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mjwl2006 wrote: 

My original package was intercepted while out for delivery in Florida and returned. It is presently sitting on my desk. Along with a GIGANTIC GIFT BASKET FROM FEDEX thanking me for joining their family. I repeat, giant gift basket of chocolates and wafers. Completely unexpected. Yum. How sweet is that? 


 

Very!  I almost wish something would go horribly wrong here one day so I could get one, too.   🙂  

 

 

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Canada Post already has an incident report with the girl's name on it. I'll be calling later this week to provide additional details in terms of how much this will cost Canada Post in future business. From the 20-year woman at the counter herself, I only seek clarification on the woman claiming to be a 'store manager'. The regional CPC manager will be speaking with this postal outlet in the near future, so the long-term employee is going to bear the brunt of that call so I thought it only wise to give her a head's up in advance. That way, she'll know to whom this incident refers and not the others. I don't want any of the others who work at the counter to be blamed for this debacle. 

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Oh, I see, yes, you're right, good idea.  

 

If anything interesting arises, let us know.   🙂  

 

 

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@i.am.vivian wrote:

mjwl2006 wrote: 

My original package was intercepted while out for delivery in Florida and returned. It is presently sitting on my desk. Along with a GIGANTIC GIFT BASKET FROM FEDEX thanking me for joining their family. I repeat, giant gift basket of chocolates and wafers. Completely unexpected. Yum. How sweet is that? 


 

Very!  I almost wish something would go horribly wrong here one day so I could get one, too.   🙂  

 

 


It's not a basket to express condolences for the parcel that Canada Post lost, I don't think, it is to welcome new business.

 

Postcard: We're grateful for your business.

 

Dear (me):

 

Thank you for taking the time to speak with me recently, At FedEx, we strive to make every customer service experience outstanding. One team is focused on providing you with the reliable solutions you need and delivering the exceptional service you deserve.

 

We appreciate your business and look forward to serving all your shipping needs.

 

Sincerely,

(FedEx lady)

 

 

But now that I think of it, I think this was the name of the lady who took my initial claim when it went missing. I've spoken to several people with FedEx now and didn't take as meticulous notes as I usually do given what else was happening at the moment. 

 

So now I wonder..... what did prompt the basket? I assumed it was to sweeten a new client but maybe it is to apologize for a mistake that FedEx didn't even make.......

 

Hmmmmm......

 

Either way, it makes Canada Post look so much the worse....

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...... I imagine someone, somewhere at FedEx seeing a Priority parcel arrive in their hands already late and having a conniption over it.  At least it seems the message around all this got passed up the line to someone in management who directed the gift basket be sent to you.....

 

This was precisely what the FedEx person said to me on the phone when encouraging me to use them directly for any urgent-to-USA parcels. Her words were, "Even if it floats along in the mail for only a few days before someone at Canada Post notices it was meant for us, it still blows your delivery guarantee. This happens more often than you want to know.'

 

As I explained to everyone exactly how important it was that this parcel reach it's destination for Christmas -- the little boy with special needs waiting for it -- the agents at FedEx and Canada Post all groaned because they totally 'got' that this was the worst possible thing to go missing. I am grateful for that. No one tried to downplay the severity of what had happened. not FedEx and not Canada Post. The people at the 1-800-number for CPC were top-notch professional about this too. 

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So here is how this saga ends.

 

The recap: As you all know, the little boy got his package in time for Christmas because I sent a spare directly via FedEx at my own expense and it arrived in time. Later on, my original package was found, intercepted and returned to me by FedEx. I have it back because the second one got there in time. It has been re-stocked.

 

I followed up with Canada Post, explaining how terrible an experience it had been and how it was utterly avoidable: all caused by the actions of one hostile person working the counter.

 

FedEx took my incident report about the late package on the day I sent the second one. 

 

I received a giant gift basket of chocolate and tea-time goodies from FedEx on the day after Boxing Day. For no apparent reason other than to say, 'We just called to say we love you.'

 

The update: Last week, I finally spoke to the 25-year postal manager at the authorized agent where this happened. She was back form her annual post-holiday vacation. I told her my tale, she was shocked. The lady who told me 'not to be so nasty' for asking questions about Priority USA for which she had no answers who then filed my precious parcel under File 13 is, in fact, a store manager of the drug store side. I guess she volunteered to fill in for an hour or two that morning at the postal counter between shifts of actual trained postal staff because she knows how to work the tills. Anyway, I let the postal manager (who probably sits equal to the chain of command of the young woman who made the dreadful error) know that the CPC Regional supervisor would be talking to her about this, and what had happened. So that she was prepared. 

 

And then I received a letter from Canada Post apologizing for the incident. It was worded very sternly and honestly about how the service I received in this case had been beyond substandard. (It's like they looked at the nature of my complaint as a whole, not just that my package was late but that it got that way either from ignorance or spite because my original complaint to CPC had been about how this woman had been SO rude.) And then today, I received a cheque from Canada Post (not FedEx) for a reimbursement of my postage paid.  

 

So, it's over. Thank goodness.

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I'm truly glad this whole scenario turned out for you the way it did.  Although perhaps Canada Post could have been more effusive in their apologies (such as your next Priority shipment free of charge??).  I think they owed it to you. 

 

I'll remember this awful experience of yours and will avoid going to a drugstore counter to send a vitally important parcel by Priority (or even Xpresspost) around Christmastime.  It would be worth it to drive the extra few miles to a "real" post office to get professional service for important deliveries.  Mind you, so far at least, I'm fortunate in that we have a little P.O. just 2 kms down the road, staffed by people who are both friendly and very knowledgeable.  

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If I was inclined to use a postal counter to send Priority USA again, I would clarify the person at the counter was aware of the process to follow and then stand there (scowling, probably) until they did: stuff the parcel in a special bag marked for FedEx and call the CPC 1-800-number to set in motion that someone orders a pick-up.  

 

But FedEx has been *really* nice. (Chomp chomp chomp.) I'll be using them to send super-fast package to the States now. 

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FedEx has been *really* nice. (Chomp chomp chomp.) 


 

Oh, must you eat that in front of me.  Mmm, I can almost smell the chocolate. And crispy wafers. With a nice cup of coffee.   😞  

 

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