AM I THE ONLY CANADIAN SELLER WHO GETS THE FEELING EBAY is NSA or WORSE

To Whom

 

   I get you'd like to control SALES on your auction site,  but since when is answering a question from a buyer ( confirmed )  questionable

that I might be TRYING  to sell them something OFF SITE ( no commission etc )  This individual is in the process of paying for an item won on YOUR SITE,  so guess what - YOU ALREADY GOT COMMISSION ETC, so what is it you're really attempting to keep from happening?

I'd like to inform before you go off half ( normal for your site ) cocked,  NO PHONE NUMBERS WHERE BEING EXCHANGED, NO EMAIL ADDRESSES WHERE BEING EXCHANGED , and  NO PRODUCT was being attempted to sell or exchange.    

 

SO WHAT THE   _____ IS THIS SITE 'S PROBLEM 

 

If ( EBAY ) is losing that much business ( commissions etc )  to their customers selling off their site,  MAYBE you'd do well to look into what would GET solid sellers to LIST MORE, instead of trying to CONTROL EVERYTHING at the etc,etc,etc,

 

AH TO ___ WITH IT , I know I'm a slave , CORPORATE HELL bought YA'S OUT  so why WASTE me time.    Live with what the SLAVE MASTERS  allow. 

 

ROUNDTWO

John F Brain, LS, CD, Retired,

 

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In this case, I guess venting is cheaper than therapy.

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I just went through the same thing, although I was able to be calmer about it due to my distinct lack of testosterone.

My buyer bought items one priced in USD one in CDN, and I wanted to tell him I would send him a combined invoice directly through PP, with the eBay transaction numbers on it to tie the invoice into the billing.

And I got that rather snippy Notice.

Interestingly, eBay puts the buyer's email right on the Sold page, so sending a PP invoice is quite easy.

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Venting is not good. It is the negative expression of thoughts, verbalized. Leads to "I should not have said that".

 

I have acquiesced to my inner Moderator. I stay on topic, no matter how much it hurts. I subscribe to "say nothing".

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I can understand what the OP is upset about, and he has a point (although made rather violently).  I too had a very similar experience when trying to sort out some shipping questions with a buyer who had already purchased a few items. 

 

In my case, after having carefully composed my message on eBay Messages, I hit the send button and -- lo and behold -- the whole message got scrapped by eBay, and I was left with a blank screen and a paternalistic pop-up rapping my knuckles which must have been triggered by my having used the word (get this!) email in my message to the buyer.  Not any actual email address, but the word itself.  The sentence was something along the lines of "Please email me if you have any further questions....". 

 

Well, you know what I did?  I said the heck with this, grabbed my Paypal transaction record and sent my message to the buyer directly from my personal Yahoo account. 

 

Now I ask you, what did eBay gain from that?  Had I actually been inclined to enter into an off-eBay transaction, having my initial message to the buyer dumped by eBay would have probably angered me enough to do exactly that, through my own email system (if I weren't the rational person I try to be). Woman Very Happy

 

You know, eBay has become so paranoid about protecting itself from outside sales that it's making inside sales difficult.  You can't send a normal message to a buyer anymore without worrying which word will set off the eBay bots.  You certainly have to be very careful if you send a message to a previous buyer, inviting them to contact you if they are interested in having you list something else for them.  In the real-world, this is called follow-up marketing - virtually impossible to do in any direct way through eBay.

 

This was not the first time this has happened to me either.  The trouble is, on this occasion I forgot to copy my message before hitting the "send" button, in case the whole thing got taken down.  Next time I probably won't bother to use the eBay message system at all.

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they have been filtering out a lot of words, very soon there wont be any remaining and we will have to learn Morse code to communicate LOL

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A balance between HST/ GST and eBay's FVF

 

(1) refund $1.00 to an Ontario buyer.

 

Save 13 cents on HST,  and eBay takes 9 cents as FVF

 

The saving is 4 cents

 

 

(2) Refund $1.00 to an Alberta buyer

 

Save 5 cents on GST,  and eBay takes 9 cents as FVF

 

The loss is 4 cents

 

 

The net effect overall..

 

A 4 cents saving with an Ontario buyer equals a 4 cents loss with an Alberta buyer.

 

 

The net effect is that Revenue Canada loses... while eBay gains... always.....

 

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All refunds on Paypal are noted as discounts on eBay's sales reports.... yet there is no refund of FVF on a refund made through Paypal..... unless the total payment is refunded

 

Yet... one gets the impression that buyers  have a difficulty making multiple  purchases and not paying the total for shipping as if each purchased item was being shipped in separate parcel... There has to be something wrong here.....

 

 

 

 

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I disagree, venting is necessary, otherwise you get built-up and you may end up releasing it all in wrong moment on wrong item/person. Usually your loved ones because they are with you the most and those are people who deserve it the least. Use ebay forum full of strangers to vent, spare the family.

 

Back to topic, ebay is not sales lead site but sales site. I also hate they try to control every aspect of transaction and that will be eventually be death of them when they will try to repack and remove all marketing materials, which they are "probably" already dong in GSP forwarding center.

 

In the meantime, use letterhead. Does not need to be anything fancy, but you are required to give receipt with total and GST acct # for sales over $4 (search revenue canada website for more details), so put name of your company, website, email addy, staple business card onto it, add a flyer or brochure, etc. He buys something small and wholesale order will follow.

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@dipmicro wrote:

In the meantime, use letterhead. Does not need to be anything fancy, but you are required to give receipt with total and GST acct # for sales over $4 (search revenue canada website for more details), so put name of your company, website, email addy, staple business card onto it, add a flyer or brochure, etc. He buys something small and wholesale order will follow.


I think many sellers are already doing this.  Printed paper promotion via snail mail is at least the one thing eBay has no control over (yet). 

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Surprisingly not that many sellers on Ebay I buy from even add proper invoice. I get fliers from $1 China trinkets, but not often from semi-large US sellers.

 

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@rose-dee wrote:
 

You know, eBay has become so paranoid about protecting itself from outside sales that it's making inside sales difficult. 


I agree.  And they have no problem with directing potential buyers to their sponsored sites, making "inside" sales even more difficult.

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I think it's safe to add:

 

What happened to the man who suffered from gluttony? He exploded... greed always has consequences.

Janet and Paul
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@mr.elmwood wrote:

Venting is not good. It is the negative expression of thoughts, verbalized. Leads to "I should not have said that".

 

I have acquiesced to my inner Moderator. I stay on topic, no matter how much it hurts. I subscribe to "say nothing".


Just squeeze your rage into a bitter little ball and release it at an approprate time. Like that day I hit the referee with a whiskey bottle. Remember that, when daddy hit the referee?

 

HJ Simpson

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@froogal_electronic_parts_and_overstock wrote:

@mr.elmwood wrote:

Venting is not good. It is the negative expression of thoughts, verbalized. Leads to "I should not have said that".

 

I have acquiesced to my inner Moderator. I stay on topic, no matter how much it hurts. I subscribe to "say nothing".


Just squeeze your rage into a bitter little ball and release it at an approprate time. Like that day I hit the referee with a whiskey bottle. Remember that, when daddy hit the referee?

 

HJ Simpson


Then they wonder why they are in trouble and do not get their way. The "not me" crowd that believes excessive and destructive behaviour is okay.

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OK, let's try semaphore -- anyone remember?  Calling all former Brownies....Woman Very Happy

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We're having brownies?

 

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Last night I tried several times to send a note to one of my buyers through the eBay messaging system, but I kept getting the warning to remove the e-mail address from the message. There was no e-mail address; I was simply acknowledging the purchase and providing shipping information. I removed the parentheses, the dashes, the quotation marks, and all punctuation except for the period. To no avail! Finally, I sent the message to her personal e-mail address which is precisely what eBay is trying to prevent. This morning it occurred to me why this happened. I had addressed the buyer by name in the message and her name contained the letters "aol". Honestly, eBay needs a better computer program. I'm LOL now but I was really ticked off last night.
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