Availabilty of ebay ids, feedback, and results on ebay safety

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Message: From my past experiences on ebay, I wish to offer the following suggestions which I feel will help to make ebay a safer place to do business.



1. It is much too easy for ebayers to have many multiple ids on ebay. All a person needs is another email address which are quite easy to get, and or another credit card etc and they are on there way with a new fresh ebay id.



The availability of these ids undermines the already small protection that feedback offers. While I believe the ebay feedback system is a fine idea, the major fault of it is the ability to get another id.



My experiences on ebay have led me to know many ebayers use a lot of ids. People engaged in less than enjoyable activity, are the main people that use many multiple ids.



Recently I opened up another ebay id for Buying purposes only, electing to have a seperate id for most sales. This was to protect my ability to leave appropriate feedback when buying without damaging my selling rating. The same benefits I get from this other id, also give the less desirables an extra chance to do less than honest activity on ebay.



If it was only possible for ebayers to get a maximum of two ebay ids, etc, it would lead to a much better use of the feedback system for all ebayers.



As it stands now, If i wanted too, I can open 10 ebay ids right now without any problem whatsoever! Even 20. All I need is another family member or freind with an shaw isp account and unused available email addresses, and I can open ebay ids like crazy, and access all this email on my own home computer.



Seeing as almost anyone can be twenty different people right now on ebay, the integrety of all ebay activity is greatly hampered.



I know you people at ebay know, i am very right here, so if you want to get more bad people away, you need to at least limit each person to two ebay ids. Let them have one for selling and one for buying, and only let them use one email address.



Those that have many ebay ids could be given the one time opportunity to have all these ebay ids merged, to the new limit.



Dave in Canada.

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Tell you the truth you can't even tie number of ebay transactions to knowledge or experience either. Look at bargainland liquidation lol. Number 1 on ebay in the usa and number 4 in Canada for ebay transactions, with the absolute worst feedback record ever set by titanium powersellers.

Where price comes first and service Last. never seen anyone make so much money advertising how bad they are!!!
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treasure-pot
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Do you just make this stuff up? Please do point us to where you secured this information.

That seller is not a powerseller, let alone a titanium powerseller and never has been. You cannot be a powerseller with less than 98% positive feedback for more than a few weeks (until eBay does their monthly reviews). And they are perfectly above board with what they sell. They thrive on people's greed. Where else are you going to get a colour TV for .99 cents. When people get that TV they are somehow upset that they paid .99 cents and that it doesn't work. Little surprise that the seller gets a lot of negs. They hardly care because another greedy-gus is lining up right behind the last one.

They are also not #1 on eBay or #4 in Canada. Even they consider/promote that they are third with positive feedbacks on eBay. Check out the seller pugster888 who currently has close to 1.3 million transactions. I'm not certain they are number one but I know that they have more feedback than the outfit you are referring to. To my knowledge, soundcitybeaches is still number one in Canada.

Look, you are entirely welcome to your opinions (as are we all) but quoting statistics that don't exist for the sake of furthering your argument is not going over all that well. For a look at the top performers on eBay (the list is updated every few weeks) visit:

http://www.topsellerlistlive.com/modules.php?name=Seller_Top100

Bill treasure-pot


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Fraud is not as small a thing on ebay as everyone thinks. For the most part, with further ebay changes, there will be no standard ebay purchase protection for money order transactions anymore, forcing all transactions to go to a more electronic method such as paypal.

When you go to paypal to pay for an item, and you click pay with credit card button, a page always comes up saying , "are you sure you want to use a CC. Paypal offers up to 1250.00 in protection". Paypal has it set up this way as they would prefer you not use your credit card, as it offers more protection than paypal can offer.

Paypal protection is commonly limited to the funds being in the Paypal account of the seller. Not enough all you get is what is there, with only paypals assurance note, that every action is being taken to recover your money.

With Credit Card you get your money back right away. if the money is not in the paypal account of the seller, Paypal is now eating a loss, and has to pursue collection costs on the ebay seller. This is where the id finally gets annexed, as it remains registered when the loss in your hands but becomes deregistered when the loss is in paypals hands.

Just as paypal designes its systems to limit there losses for fraudulent sellers, Ebay does the same with setting up parameters for ebay.

I think I have substantiated quite well how these multiple ids are commonly used for undetected shill bidding, and other scams.
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treasure-pot
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eBay SPP was not working anyway - it will not be missed. For current PayPal protection visit:

http://www2.ebay.com/aw/ca/200701.shtml#2007-01-09154033

No, few of your claims have been substantiated. You use opinion as fact as with your claims of statistics in post 60 above. That won't sway many people. I'd still like to see where you got that information.

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whoscloset
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u-deserve-it,

I don't know what your sudden problem with me is and in reality, I couldn't care less. However, I suggest you re-read the thread and maybe you will realize who it was that began belittling people who didn't agree with them.

Have a great day!
Monique



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Monique

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Of course hes not a powerseller the feedback is too low a score to qualify. Dont get lost somewhere. they sell more than almost any powerseller out there, with bad feedback as stated lol, certainly much more than you. not that it matters.

Ebay operates as a Corporation, designed to maximize profits. Problems with fraud be it may, Ebay will deal with these problems while at the same time trying to maximize profits while doing so. If this means ebayers suffer from imperfections in the system, that is the cost ebay is willing to pay to maximize profits while dealing with these issues.

Muliple ids are profitable for ebay at present, but not profitable when they begin to suffer losses through paypal. Hence ebay ids get annexed fast when paypal suffers a loss, but dont when paypal does not suffer a loss.
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Post 60 doesnt have much with to do with multiple ids bill. Im not trying to sway anyone. thats what you do.
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u-deserv-it
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i really don't need to re-read..i already did and once is usually enough for me...i already know who the first person was to shoot out a personal attack..and it certainly wasn't me..

...i said my peace..
Kat
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Which claims about muliple ids that I have made would you like to challenge bill?
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whoscloset
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So, I suggested to my sister, the owner of two Home Hardware's in Cambridge, that she require everyone that walks through the door of her store to check-in at the cash register with their SIN number and Driver's License in case anything goes missing during the day. Don't know why she looked at me so oddly.....it seemed like a good idea. :)
Monique



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Monique

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I dont expect you to agree with me if i said most apples are red, but thats all you really want is a debate.

Im still waiting to hear from you about why these ids are necessary so much? How does the seller or buyer benefit?. What positive effects do they lend to the ebay experience?

I see few benefits of these ids vs the costs.
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treasure-pot
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Sorry, once again I should have realized that your words have little to do with accuracy and should be allowed the widest range of interpretation according to u-deserv-it.

You persist in taking cheap shots at me because I won't accept your opinion as fact. If post 60 has little to do with multiple IDs I'm left to wonder with how it found it's way into this discussion in the first place. Regardless, you are now avoiding supplying evidence to back up your claims.

Look I'll say it right out... you are fabricating whatever you need to try to justify your little crusade. You have already admitted that your been stung a number of times (including off eBay sales) and some of your listings clearly violate eBay policy (choice auctions). You maintain that you are trying to be an honest, upstanding eBayer but I maintain that those that live in the grey areas of eBay are often the first to get stung.

Good luck with the crusade...

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LOL. I see monique is back to play games making fun of her own sin suggestion.

I knew you were playing games from the start monique, thats why i suggested , "maybe that or some other TAG"

Seems paypal has the tags, but ebay doesnt.
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treasure-pot
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ROFL Monique. I'd be willing to bet she bounced you from the store.

tgcbas, I have already listed reasons why multiple ID's benefit both sellers and buyers. Maybe in your haste to press home your crusade you missed those posts. Try reading through the thread again.

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What cheap shot bill? your the one that came on here making claims , substantiate them, bill.
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run bill run lol
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whoscloset
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Im still waiting to hear from you about why these ids are necessary so much?


I'm really, really confused here. You claim to be college and university educated and to have worked for "Canada's largest retailer" (although I still have to give that one to Canadian Tire), and yet you can not grasp the concept of branding.

When Canadian Tire bought Mark's Work Warehouse recently, did they change them all to Canadian Tires? Do the Hudson's Bay Company, Sears, and a million others not operate under multiple names depending upon the goods they are selling and their target market?

If I want to sell home decor and car parts why shouldn't I be able to separate them under multiple names just because I'm selling them on ebay?
Monique



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Monique

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Comon bill! pick a post i made about multiple ids and tell me what I must clarify, or why it is inaccurate.
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Is that your idea of a defense? "I know you are but what am I?"

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go home monique your posts always follow bills and you have already demonstrated your intelligence and demeanor to other ebayers. Bill is your king, and you are his queen.
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