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momcqueen · ‎11-05-2015

http://pages.ebay.ca/promo/2015/1105/2000Listings.html

List FREE - 2,000 auction-style or fixed priced listings Start Date * End Date

Pay no insertion fees on 2,000 listings when Canadian Dollar is specified as the currency. Learn More

Nov. 05, 2015

05:29:30 am EST

Nov. 15, 2015

11:59:59 pm EST

Invited sellers who activate the offer and then create a listing with Canadian Dollars specified as the currency in the auction-style format, auction-style with Buy It Now format, or fixed price format, pursuant to the terms and conditions set forth herein ("Qualifying Listing"), will pay no insertion fee per item listed ("Promotion") for up to 1,000 listings during the Promotion Period (as defined below).

The Promotion does not apply to listings with 1-day or 3-day duration, final value fees, or optional upgrade fees. Final value fees will be applied to the total amount of the sale, including the cost of the item, shipping, and any other fees a seller may charge—excluding any sales tax. Fees for optional listing upgrades (such as reserve price, bold, listing in 2 categories, etc.) still apply. For listing in 2 categories, you will be charged at standard rates for the second category. Please note: Not all upgrades are available in all listing flows. All existing selling limits on your account (as well as category and item limits) still apply, and may prevent you from creating the maximum number of listings in this Promotion. The Promotion is in addition to the free listings per month as part of the everyday rate plan.

Who's eligible?

This Promotion is available to sellers who: (i) activated the promotion from the invitation email or on the Promotion landing page; and (ii) meet eBay's minimum seller performance standards. Please sign in to My eBay and view your Seller Dashboard to verify whether your account is currently meeting the standards.

skylarstuff · ‎11-07-2015

My only concern is the accounting. If all of your 2015 sales have been in US dollars (Like mine are), you would now need to track what sales you made in Canadian dollars and keep those separate. On another note: Anyone who knows how to use Turbo Lister can convert USA listings and currency to Canadian on thousands of items back and forth in minutes. The best Ebay tool ever..........

dutchman48 · ‎11-07-2015

But then you also have to change prices, and shipping charges if you use flat rate.

You then also have to change your shipping discount currency as well.

Do you have an easier way to do it even in TL

jt-libra · ‎11-07-2015

This post is not in response to anyone in particular.

Please bear with me while I repeat a post I made very early in this thread (for ease of reference).

Okay ..... so we are allowed to have two listings for the same item, one as an auction and the other as fixed price. Can we then list one item as CAD fixed price on .ca and the same item as USD fixed price on .com, without it constituting a duplicate listing. I think I'm pushing my luck here .........

A couple of sellers indicated they thought it would be considered a duplicate listing.

This got me thinking this evening. I know of two sellers (and there are no doubt many, many) who sell identical items on many different sites. Their user name is the same except for the "suffix", i.e. username-ca, username-us, username-au and so on, with all items located in and shipped from the U.S. These are not duplicate listings, of course, because they are different accounts. They are both very high-volume sellers.

I'm wondering how one goes about doing this. Can you open an account, or store, on each of these sites, using your existing PayPal account but with a different e-mail address? That seems too easy. No doubt, the process is much more complex. But if someone was so inclined, they could get free listings on each of these sites and list from the same inventory. Has anyone thought about doing this? I'm curious.

dutchman48 · ‎11-07-2015

I was always under the impression if you listed the same item under different ID's, that was still a policy violation. Different countries may be a different story

I don't think currency will exempt that violation but possibly a good question for the weekly chat.

dutchman48 · ‎11-07-2015

I believe only 1 store per ID irregardless of where you list. I had a store on .ca and .com but had to have to have 2 ID's, separate addresses, credit card, bank account, email, etc. In other words, be like 2 totally different people.

It would be the same if you wanted a store on .uk and .ca and because of distance, a whole lot of extra work and expense

Then you get into tax repercussions, knowing all the laws, etc.

Do you have item numbers for these duplicated listings all over the place?

skylarstuff · ‎11-07-2015

I group my items by selling price and shipping. Then change those items in bulk. In my case shipping for a lot of the light items are the same for a number of the categories I sell. Photo, flyers and plastics all have the same shipping for the various countries I send goods to. example $4. for Canada, $5. for USA and $8. for the rest of the world.

jt-libra · ‎11-07-2015

@dutchman48 wrote:
I believe only 1 store per ID irregardless of where you list. I had a store on .ca and .com but had to have to have 2 ID's, separate addresses, credit card, bank account, email, etc. In other words, be like 2 totally different people.

It would be the same if you wanted a store on .uk and .ca and because of distance, a whole lot of extra work and expense

Then you get into tax repercussions, knowing all the laws, etc.

Do you have item numbers for these duplicated listings all over the place?

That makes sense. I thought there would be more to it than simply adding an e-mail address.

I didn't indicate the sellers' User ID's and I'm reluctant to list Item numbers, simply because these individuals may be doing nothing wrong, and likely are not, and would not appreciate any attention being drawn to them.

All I'll say is that they are media sellers.

dutchman48 · ‎11-07-2015

That is what I thought but still have to figure out with exchange rates as $4.00 US is a lot different than $4.00 Can especially with the exchange today and Ebay taking their percentage. It was much easier when the US and Can $ were at par and before CP jacked up all the postage rates.

dutchman48 · ‎11-07-2015

Sellers can list on various sites but only as many as the free listings allow. Also, in that category, if they are huge sellers, they may have many copies of each.

The other issue is are they from the US or just have merchandise stored there in a fulfillment center which Ebay is doing for some Chinese sellers.

They may also have branches or people in all these countries for addresses, etc.

No way to tell if anything is wrong and not our place to judge. It is however very difficult to see without more information.

skylarstuff · ‎11-07-2015

Yes you are absolutely right on the shipping costs being different when the exchange rate is so high.... right now 1 US dollar = $1.33 CDN. What some CDN sellers are doing is charging the shipping in US dollars at the CDN rate. Example if the item cost $5. CDN to ship they charge $5. USA. In that case there would be no changes to the shipping necessary as shipping would now be listed at the appropriate Canadian shipping cost.

momcqueen · ‎11-07-2015

@dutchman48 wrote:
I was always under the impression if you listed the same item under different ID's, that was still a policy violation. Different countries may be a different story

I don't think currency will exempt that violation but possibly a good question for the weekly chat.

I have been given impression that ebay knows how to link different accounts like these to one person(s).

Customer Service assures me that they do every time I call to report harassment from my very special friend, the one who has been threatening me for 18 months. I always ask, 'How will you protect me from retaliatory purchasing or feedback from (this member) if he/she creates another account to overcome being blocked?' and they always tell me they know how to recognize it now. Whether or not they do is another question.

Now, I thought that it was deemed acceptable to list on ebay.ca in CAD and ship within Canada and then the same item on ebay.com and in USD and ship-to only in the USA and then directly on ebay.co.uk and in the pound while shipping only in UK. This, I believe, was the outcome of my amazement that we were allowed a full complement of listings on both ebay.ca and ebay.com. Remember, I didn't know because I never actually check my Selling Manager on ebay.com and don't list in USD? I thought I even asked at Board Hour about it. The condition is that the range of that 'identical' listing NOT overlap. Like the ebay.ca in CAD listing ships only within Canada etc. Or maybe I'm simply concocting a memory where none exists.

dutchman48 · ‎11-07-2015

But if you change selling currency, it also changes shipping currency. Somewhere down the line adjustments have to be made or you overcharge or undercharge. If you are charging Canadian shipping in US dollars first, and change to Canadian you are still not allowing for the Ebay FVF% on shipping, supplies, etc.

Then if the exchange changes you have to adjust as well.

It can all be done but if you have a large number of items that are all different, it is still a lot of work. I certainly would not do it on a continual basis. Maybe if Ebay said only Can $ on .ca it would be OK to do it once in bulk piecemeal. For a listing special, it is not worth it to me, especially if I list on .ca and .com.

dutchman48 · ‎11-07-2015

It is still a duplicate (you are using the same ID - not allowed to list the same fixed price item under 1 ID on different sites) but who know how Ebay will look at it. I would not take the risk.

If it is the same item, and it sells on 1, then you have to pull it from the other sites which can be a nightmare without proper software. If you have a huge inventory of the same item, it is probably not an issue unless you get reported or the bots put 2 and 2 together

pocomocomputing · ‎11-07-2015

@mjwl2006 wrote:
@dutchman48 wrote:
I was always under the impression if you listed the same item under different ID's, that was still a policy violation. Different countries may be a different story

I don't think currency will exempt that violation but possibly a good question for the weekly chat.

I have been given impression that ebay knows how to link different accounts like these to one person(s).

Customer Service assures me that they do every time I call to report harassment from my very special friend, the one who has been threatening me for 18 months. I always ask, 'How will you protect me from retaliatory purchasing or feedback from (this member) if he/she creates another account to overcome being blocked?' and they always tell me they know how to recognize it now. Whether or not they do is another question.

Now, I thought that it was deemed acceptable to list on ebay.ca in CAD and ship within Canada and then the same item on ebay.com and in USD and ship-to only in the USA and then directly on ebay.co.uk and in the pound while shipping only in UK. This, I believe, was the outcome of my amazement that we were allowed a full complement of listings on both ebay.ca and ebay.com. Remember, I didn't know because I never actually check my Selling Manager on ebay.com and don't list in USD? I thought I even asked at Board Hour about it. The condition is that the range of that 'identical' listing NOT overlap. Like the ebay.ca in CAD listing ships only within Canada etc. Or maybe I'm simply concocting a memory where none exists.

I once asked that question in the weekly session of listing the same item on both eBay.com and eBay.ca with eBay.com shipping to the USA and Worldwide excluding Canada and eBay.ca being only Canada. I was told it was okay. Maybe 2-3-4 years ago.

This was to allow free shipping one Bay.com at one price and free shipping on eBay.ca at a different price. Since there was no overlap of countries, it would be okay. I never did list the same item this way. I figured that what I was told in the weekly sessions and what eBay would do might not be as I was told. The hassle of dealing with Customer Support to fix it if it went wrong would be too much.

dutchman48 · ‎11-07-2015

I think this will tell you what you need to know.

http://pages.ebay.ca/help/policies/listing-multi.html

jt-libra · ‎11-07-2015

@dutchman48 wrote:
Sellers can list on various sites but only as many as the free listings allow. Also, in that category, if they are huge sellers, they may have many copies of each.

The other issue is are they from the US or just have merchandise stored there in a fulfillment center which Ebay is doing for some Chinese sellers.

They may also have branches or people in all these countries for addresses, etc.

No way to tell if anything is wrong and not our place to judge. It is however very difficult to see without more information.

They are both huge sellers so it is very likely they have many copies of each. I made a point of checking some of their rare items which confirmed that these were identical items. Nevertheless, my intention was not to imply that these sellers were doing anything wrong; it just made me wonder if a lot of people, even small sellers, had ever considered doing this. But, from what you experienced, it's like creating a whole new identity which is more trouble than it's worth if you only have a couple of hundred items for sale.

Another good point you raised -- it didn't occur to me that eBay might have fulfillment centers for them in the U.S.

skylarstuff · ‎11-07-2015

I agree with you........I to am not a fan of listing in CDN dollars or this promo, but willing to give it a try and listed 2,000 items.

One strategy that I use is build in the shipping price into the selling price, and offer free shipping to Canada only. In doing that I don't need to alter a lot of the various shipping prices as I have inflated the selling price. Also if the person buys multiple items I do not need to refund extra shipping that I already built into the selling price. Also if some one buys an item outside of the free shipping country I am covered for any extra fees for packing material or FVF's.

jt-libra · ‎11-07-2015

@pocomocomputing wrote:
@mjwl2006 wrote:
@dutchman48 wrote:
I was always under the impression if you listed the same item under different ID's, that was still a policy violation. Different countries may be a different story

I don't think currency will exempt that violation but possibly a good question for the weekly chat.

I have been given impression that ebay knows how to link different accounts like these to one person(s).

Customer Service assures me that they do every time I call to report harassment from my very special friend, the one who has been threatening me for 18 months. I always ask, 'How will you protect me from retaliatory purchasing or feedback from (this member) if he/she creates another account to overcome being blocked?' and they always tell me they know how to recognize it now. Whether or not they do is another question.

Now, I thought that it was deemed acceptable to list on ebay.ca in CAD and ship within Canada and then the same item on ebay.com and in USD and ship-to only in the USA and then directly on ebay.co.uk and in the pound while shipping only in UK. This, I believe, was the outcome of my amazement that we were allowed a full complement of listings on both ebay.ca and ebay.com. Remember, I didn't know because I never actually check my Selling Manager on ebay.com and don't list in USD? I thought I even asked at Board Hour about it. The condition is that the range of that 'identical' listing NOT overlap. Like the ebay.ca in CAD listing ships only within Canada etc. Or maybe I'm simply concocting a memory where none exists.
I once asked that question in the weekly session of listing the same item on both eBay.com and eBay.ca with eBay.com shipping to the USA and Worldwide excluding Canada and eBay.ca being only Canada. I was told it was okay. Maybe 2-3-4 years ago.

This was to allow free shipping one Bay.com at one price and free shipping on eBay.ca at a different price. Since there was no overlap of countries, it would be okay. I never did list the same item this way. I figured that what I was told in the weekly sessions and what eBay would do might not be as I was told. The hassle of dealing with Customer Support to fix it if it went wrong would be too much.

You both may be right. I followed dutchman's link to the Duplicate Listings Policy and one sentence isn't quite clear:

"Separate listings may be created for the same item on different eBay sites, as long as the international shipping options don't result in the listings cluttering the search results of any individual site." ??

Followed by:

While separate listings for the same item may appear on different eBay sites, we recommend only creating one listing at a time for identical items.

The only reason I'm raising this issue now is because of the latest promotion. What better way to take advantage of it than being allowed to list an item on .ca in CAD, with shipping within Canada only, and the same item in USD on .com.

As dutchman also points out, if you have a lot of listings and do not have the proper software, removing active listings of items that have just sold would be a nightmare.

tobyshitzu · ‎11-07-2015

Yes you can list one on .ca to Canada only, 1 on com to USA only, 1 on UK to only ect And add other countries as lone as they are only to one identical item listing

Yes ebay now has some ability to detect duplicates across accounts, got the take down and warning to prove it from accdently putting up a dupe

Yes there are sellers with dupes that aren't getting caught. Figuring out how to make enough subtle change to make it not appear as a dupe to ebay might be part of it

"Can you open an account, or store, on each of these sites, using your existing PayPal account but with a different e-mail address?"

You can open numerous ids, then open a store for each on whatever site and use one paypal account. Of course starting now each account would have a very low selling limit for awhile. Not sure a brand new seller could jsut open numerous account right off the bat now with the extra securoty, it was no problem to open multiple ids a few years ago

jt-libra · ‎11-07-2015

@toby**bleep**zu wrote:
Yes you can list one on .ca to Canada only, 1 on com to USA only, 1 on UK to only ect And add other countries as lone as they are only to one identical item listing

Yes ebay now has some ability to detect duplicates across accounts, got the take down and warning to prove it from accdently putting up a dupe

Yes there are sellers with dupes that aren't getting caught. Figuring out how to make enough subtle change to make it not appear as a dupe to ebay might be part of it

"Can you open an account, or store, on each of these sites, using your existing PayPal account but with a different e-mail address?"

You can open numerous ids, then open a store for each on whatever site and use one paypal account. Of course starting now each account would have a very low selling limit for awhile. Not sure a brand new seller could jsut open numerous account right off the bat now with the extra securoty, it was no problem to open multiple ids a few years ago

Thanks Toby. That's very welcome information. I know what I'll be busy doing tomorrow -- not opening stores 🙂 but taking advantage of this promo.

Thanks again.