I see March 24th us non-essential Ontarian sellers are having to shut down anyway...
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03-23-2020 03:10 PM
Just saw an announcement that I'd have to shut down tomorrow anyway, all non-essential businesses have to shut down!
(The list is to come, but alas I don't think "stamp dealer" will be on the essentials list).
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03-23-2020 07:52 PM
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03-23-2020 08:13 PM
It would be hard to decide what is "essential" at the border.
A shipment of insulin purchased in Manitoba and going to a single patient in Missouri?
A CPAP filter from New York to Labrador?
A prom dress custom made for a plus size teen?
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03-23-2020 11:15 PM
@cottagewoman wrote:
Quebec official statement fully allows ecommerce to continue.
Ontario's backgrounder document states this also ... 3rd sentence from the top
The "essentials" make for a lengthy list.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2020/03/list-of-essential-workplaces-2.html
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03-23-2020 11:51 PM
List as per Government of Canada:
4.1 What is an essential service?
Under the PSLRA, an “essential service” is defined as “any service, facility or activity of the Government of Canada [that] is or will be necessary for the safety or security of the public or a segment of the public.”
Examples of government services or activities that may be considered essential include, but are not limited to:
- border safety/security
- correctional services
- food inspection activities
- accident safety investigations
- income and social security
- marine safety
- national security
- law enforcement
- search and rescue
Although the notion of “safety or security of the public” is not defined in the Act, some examples may be found in jurisprudence. (See Annex A for examples).
As Per Wikipedia 2011 - Unverified.
587. The following do not constitute essential services in the strict sense of the term:
- radio, television, and newspaper
- the petroleum sector
- ports
- banking
- computer services for the collection of excises, duties and taxes
- department stores and pleasure parks
- the metal and mining sectors
- transport generally
- disinfecting and specialized cleaning generally
- airline pilots
- production, transport and distribution of fuel
- railway services
- metropolitan transport
- postal services
- refuse collection services
- refrigeration enterprises
- hotel services
- agricultural activities, the supply and distribution of foodstuffs
- the minting of money
- Emergency Medical Services
- the government printing service and the state alcohol, salt, and tobacco monopolies
- the education sector
- mineral water bottling company
References
- ^ International Labour Organization, Freedom of association - Digest of decisions and principles of the Freedom of Association Committee of the Governing Body of the ILO. Fifth (revised) edition, 2006.
Something where personal opinions and jurisdictions will vary greatly.
-Lotz
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03-24-2020 12:43 AM - edited 03-24-2020 12:46 AM
ILO - The International Labour Organization is a United Nations agency whose mandate is to advance social justice and promote decent work by setting international labour standards.
It does not set the rules for Canada.
PSLRA - Federal Public Sector Labour Relations Act
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/p-33.3/
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03-24-2020 08:48 AM
@kawartha-ephemera wrote:
@cottagewoman wrote:
Quebec official statement fully allows ecommerce to continue.Ontario's backgrounder document states this also ... 3rd sentence from the top
The "essentials" make for a lengthy list.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2020/03/list-of-essential-workplaces-2.html
Excellent news, I'm glad that I was wrong in my interpretation, certainly this thread got lots of communication going which is a very good thing too! THX for sharing the link!
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03-24-2020 10:08 AM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-list-essential-businesses-1.5507687
The Ontario government says: "For the purposes of this order, businesses include any-for-profit, non-profit or other entity providing the goods and services described herein. This does not preclude the provision of work and services by entities not on this list either online, by telephone or by mail/delivery. Note that teleworking and online commerce are permitted at all times for all businesses."
Our business shall be standing in solidarity with the essential courier workforce as much as possible and limit exposure due to personal threat category qualifications.
While I am pleased to see that eBay has waived post delay penalties for the immediate situation I do not fully understand how they are calculated so as not to get in trouble when they come back into effect.
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03-24-2020 11:32 AM
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03-24-2020 01:55 PM
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03-24-2020 07:14 PM - edited 03-24-2020 07:27 PM
@forester_studios wrote:
Normal post office hours here in BC. The lady there assured me they plan to remain open.
My local (Ontario) Shoppers postal outlet cut hours this week down to 9am-5pm, Monday to Friday.
Too many of the trained staff are staying home in this week to keep longer hours. I suspect first cases of COVID-19 showing up this past weekend in my city and the non-essential announcement in Ontario was the tip point for many. The postal manager also mentioned that their postal storage area has lots of empty spaces as parcel volume has fallen in the last 2 weeks.
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03-24-2020 10:54 PM
Official confirmation from ChitChats blog- normal operations in ON and QC.
https://chitchats.com/blog/update-on-essential-services-covid-19
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03-24-2020 11:57 PM
I work from home but have shipped via UPS and CPC as recent as yesterday. In my experience most things seem normal, but we also have reduced hours at the drop off points for both services (9-5)
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03-25-2020 10:36 AM
It is also important to note that the St. Johns thus Newfoundland CPC is currently closed and listed as such on the Canada Post website. They are currently undergoing a "deep clean" due to multiple covid-19 cases reported within the post office.
Something perhaps to keep in mind.
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03-25-2020 11:12 AM - edited 03-25-2020 11:14 AM
@tryubik-useonlyasdirected wrote:It is also important to note that the St. Johns thus Newfoundland CPC is currently closed and listed as such on the Canada Post website. They are currently undergoing a "deep clean" due to multiple covid-19 cases reported within the post office.
Something perhaps to keep in mind.
Currently 1 positive case, 13 in isolation who had contact with the person.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/canada-post-employees-covid-1.5507388
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/mail-covid-kenmount-1.5509288
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03-25-2020 01:53 PM
Is there a re-opening date?
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03-25-2020 02:19 PM
@reallynicestamps wrote:Is there a re-opening date?
Check https://www.canadapost.ca/cpc/en/our-company/news-and-media/service-alerts.page for updates.
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03-25-2020 11:02 PM - edited 03-25-2020 11:14 PM
@ypdc_dennis wrote:
@reallynicestamps wrote:Is there a re-opening date?
Check https://www.canadapost.ca/cpc/en/our-company/news-and-media/service-alerts.page for updates.
Canada Post (March 25 update):
The St. John’s mail processing plant remains closed.
Delivery of mail and parcels, as well as pickup services, will continue to be suspended in St. John’s and Mount Pearl for the remainder of the week and delays should be expected elsewhere for all of Newfoundland and Labrador.
Start point was 13 postal workers attending a wake/funeral March 15-17 who were exposed to COVID-19.
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