Incoming U.S. Gov’t 25% Tariff Proposal on ALL Canadian Products

[wilsonharborsales]

The incoming U.S. administration has announced today that they will sign an executive order on January 20th that will add a 25% import fee on all goods entering the U.S. from Canada. Under the proposed law, there will be no exemptions for consumer goods.

[intimewithmusic]

Hi @recped 

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@recped wrote:

"The overwhelming share of exports from Canada to the US are of Canadian origin.

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   Thanks for the stats! The problem with them is they have nothing to do with online sales. From reading the posts it's clear many sellers haven't bothered with Harm Tax codes or COOs so they are not in documented categories. 

    I can't find new stats specific to eBay but the breakdown of average selling prices I have for eBay USA from 5 years ago for items sold on dot com (without shipping charges or taxes) were;

Over $100 US = 6%

$30 to $100US = 4%

<$30 US = 90%

<$12 US =50%

 I believe I got these figures from "eBay for Business". Considering 90% of all items sold on eBay are under $30 (US stats) most of us can rule out all the categories in your list except a few may have fallen under cat #10.  Most items were under the $800 de minimus  so this list doesn't really account for online sales. I'd expect items sold on eBay Canada would be similar.

 The question isn't about those categories but rather "Will the goods eBay sellers sell to the US that are not specifically "Made In Canada" but possibly  "Made In China" or another country Trump is attacking be duty free?" Now he's attacking pretty much everyone except Russia and Israel.   What is actually going to affect eBay Canada sellers?

   A year ago Biden was ramping up to stop major Chinese players like Temu from exporting into the US by exploiting the de Minimus.  When Trump eliminated the deminimus on China was he COO specific? I don't think so.  Correct me if I'm wrong. Were items sold by China but made in other countries allowed into the US tariff free? 

   It doesn't seem like he is acknowledging the CUSMA in that regard. Besides being about jobs for Americans he wants money for his "Sovereign Wealth Fund".  

  I guess we'll have to wait and see. It's too soon to speculate as he is reinventing his own wheel. In recent days he's been using the phrase ""goods made in Canada".

  If you're suggesting non "Made In Canada" items sold by eBay Canada sellers will be exempt I hope you're right! 

Thank you for your input!

[marnotom!]

I think a better avenue than getting eBay involved in another international forwarding program would be for Canada to pursue better trade relationships with the European Union and other major-ish trading partners that would allow it either to comply with, simplify, or even circumvent matters such as registration for compliance with the packaging waste directive.

[recped]

   Thanks for the stats! The problem with them is they have nothing to do with online sales. From reading the posts it's clear many sellers haven't bothered with Harm Tax codes or COOs so they are not in documented categories. 

Online (ecommerce) sales from Canada to the US are almost insignificant in terms of total exports from Canada.

If you're suggesting non "Made In Canada" items sold by eBay Canada sellers will be exempt I hope you're right!

I would never suggest such a thing, tariffs are based on Country of Origin (where they are manufactured) not the country of export. This applies to tariffs in any country.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Were items sold by China but made in other countries allowed into the US tariff free? 

There is almost nothing exported from China that is not made in China, there are some goods that contain non-China made components such as  Samsung phones/tv's where the screens are made in South Korea but the rest of the components are made and assembled in China.

[intimewithmusic]

Wow. Considering China is a neighbour to Mongolia, Russia and many other countries that make and grow stuff that's mindblowing.  Shows how little I know about communism.  A lot of soybean, wheat  and corn products are exported from China but you are right they do not grow them domestically. They process them. You could call a bag of popcorn "made in China" even though they don't grow corn. It relates to Mexico making a lot of parts for American manufacturers where the finished product is declared "made in USA". 

In the 80s Leo Fender sold his guitar company to CBS. They made a few in America but got the price down by making the strats in Japan. guitar players stopped buying the US guitars because the Japanes models played better and were much cheaper.  Eventually CBS sold Fender to a US company. They had the necks and parts made in Mexico. Many owners thought they were better than the ones made in the US. 

This opened the door for many small guitar pickup makers like Evans and Seymour Duncan because those offshore stratocasters were good but the pickups in them from asia weren't so good.  Those companies  thrived. 

This is relevant because Trump thinks the US can do everything domestically using US labour and tech. He doesn't recognize the value of foreign craftspeople. If he were to build a fuel efficient car completely out of US made parts, built by US labour using US technology Americans couldn't afford it.