09-01-2025 09:30 AM - edited 09-01-2025 09:41 AM
Watch your eBay emails for the following. Mine arrived overnight. Personally not ready to test something this far in advance.
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Dear Seller, | |
Starting in October 2025, eligible listings on eBay.ca and CAFR.eBay.ca may be automatically enrolled in the eBay International Shipping program. Sellers will receive a notification when they are fully enrolled. Enrollment in eBay International Shipping does not replace any existing policies you have in place for particular markets. Buyers in those markets will be able to choose from your existing shipping policy and eBay International Shipping. If you would like to opt out of the program before it launches, you can do so here. If you would like to opt out of the program after you have been enrolled, or edit your country exclusions, you can do so through the Shipping Preferences page on My eBay.
https://www.ebay.ca/srv/survey/a/eis-optout
Your mission, if you wish to accept it is to confirm this can or will work for you!!!
As a side, I recently spotted a discussion post from a US seller having issues with eIS and their business policies being in conflict. This could potenially be a major problem if this is the case. |
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09-01-2025 07:07 PM
Now that we know Zonos integration is a possibility to allow online platforms to collect duties at checkout and make it seamless, it makes no sense to limit sellers to eIS where on top of the duties, they force an additional cost of domestic shipping on to the transaction. Not only does it take longer to arrive, it becomes even more expensive. That is the opposite of adding value for the customer.
I would make more money with a higher amount of US sales due to lower shipping prices, and then covering the return label or refund on my own based on the percentage of returns I receive (which is almost none).
I am happy to see eIS to open up overseas shipping to all countries, but if their plan is to never bring Canada Post discounted Tracked Packet back to eBay labels because it requires DDP at checkout, I think that is a major misstep.
09-01-2025 07:11 PM
I'm feel there is new entity on the horizon, GTA eBay. Basically a site aimed the most populous part of the country at the expense of everyone else. I'm in Edmonton and there is no way to continue. The US market is huge and shares interests in pop culture, sports along with so many other things. Simply these changes add costs to everything, a real nickel and dime effect. The problem I see is even if the tariffs are dropped and di minimus goes back to $800 these shipping programs and Zonos are here to stay. I sell nothing that interests a buyer in Belgium or France etc. so international sales mean nothing to be. But I guess all good things come to an end. It's just a shame it's such a sloppy way of doing it.
09-01-2025 07:30 PM - edited 09-01-2025 07:32 PM
This won't be a major issue. It's very common for items to be consolidated and shipped to warehouses. Like with anything, there most likely would be a size/weight limit for a single box. You'd also have to package everything you're shipping prior to consolidating it into a box. People have been doing this for years with various shipping services without issue, in fact with Amazon FBA unless items require some sort of prep (like a glass mug), items are just sent in loose. What most people here are suggesting is that items are protected and prepackaged ready for individual shipment, and then placed into a batch together in one box. Ala Chit Chats.
eBay would need a system where a unique label meant to assist with their hub's sorting process would be added to each individual order, and then possibly a batch label to the outside of the box. Something as simple as individual barcodes for each order might work. But that shouldn't be a major hurdle.
Then I assume eBay would simply apply the carriers label over the packaging, just as they would do if you sent the item in individually.
Based on current shipping rates, it makes too much sense to allow consolidation of packages. Let's say over a weekend I sell 20 jerseys that weigh about 1 KG in poly bags. Those are going to cost me about $12 each to ship to eBay's hub using Canada Post or UPS with eBay's discounted rates. That is $240 dollars. I could ship those consolidated into one single box for $25-$30 at most. Assuming each order is worth $100 on average, add in $66 in optional insurance at the Canada Post rate of $2.75 per $100. Let's assuming $5-$10 wholesale for a box large enough to hold 24 poly bags and rated for the appropriate weight, we'll call it $100 to ship consolidated with full insurance and safely packed.
If you're sending two shipments like that a week, that's over $800 a month in additional revenue that you can either add to your bottom line or use to lower your item costs. Savings may increase or decrease depending on the size of the items, whether they qualify for Expedited Lite, the amount of total insurance needed on the consolidated box, and where the seller is located relative to the hub.
It would be a very efficient feature. Nobody wants to hear this part, but eBay could probably charge sellers a $1-$2 "sorting fee" per item and it still might be a cost saver for some.
09-01-2025 07:49 PM
@ilikehockeyjerseys wrote:This won't be a major issue. It's very common for items to be consolidated and shipped to warehouses. Like with anything, there most likely would be a size/weight limit for a single box. You'd also have to package everything you're shipping prior to consolidating it into a box. People have been doing this for years with various shipping services without issue, in fact with Amazon FBA unless items require some sort of prep (like a glass mug), items are just sent in loose. What most people here are suggesting is that items are protected and prepackaged ready for individual shipment, and then placed into a batch together in one box. Ala Chit Chats.
eBay would need a system where a unique label meant to assist with their hub's sorting process would be added to each individual order, and then possibly a batch label to the outside of the box. Something as simple as individual barcodes for each order might work. But that shouldn't be a major hurdle.
Then I assume eBay would simply apply the carriers label over the packaging, just as they would do if you sent the item in individually.
Based on current shipping rates, it makes too much sense to allow consolidation of packages. Let's say over a weekend I sell 20 jerseys that weigh about 1 KG in poly bags. Those are going to cost me about $12 each to ship to eBay's hub using Canada Post or UPS with eBay's discounted rates. That is $240 dollars. I could ship those consolidated into one single box for $25-$30 at most. Assuming each order is worth $100 on average, add in $66 in optional insurance at the Canada Post rate of $2.75 per $100. Let's assuming $5-$10 wholesale for a box large enough to hold 24 poly bags and rated for the appropriate weight, we'll call it $100 to ship consolidated with full insurance and safely packed.
If you're sending two shipments like that a week, that's over $800 a month in additional revenue that you can either add to your bottom line or use to lower your item costs. Savings may increase or decrease depending on the size of the items, whether they qualify for Expedited Lite, the amount of total insurance needed on the consolidated box, and where the seller is located relative to the hub.
It would be a very efficient feature. Nobody wants to hear this part, but eBay could probably charge sellers a $1-$2 "sorting fee" per item and it still might be a cost saver for some.
eBay has had issues with combined shipping concerns for years. How in Haiti's do you think they would ever be able to figure out a smooth way to consolidate mixed orders from one eBay seller?
As for your concept, it works. GE used it for years alligned with Fedex/UPS. I've also dealt with companies where their purchasing systems was 1 item per po number. No exceptions. (80ies). They all got packaged in a master box. Easy peasy.
09-01-2025 08:06 PM
09-01-2025 08:39 PM
Each order would still remain an independent order. It's not like Buy A+B+C+D get different shipping rates based on you consolidating it and they all have to wait for invoices based on how many orders you have.
eIS is supposed to charge your buyer your domestic shipping rate for the item along with the eIS rate. Some people here have concluded that might be a problem, and that there should be an option to set a specific domestic rate for eIS shipments.
In a world where we could have a flat rate set for eIS via a rate table, the way to make consolidated shipments work would be that the seller assigns whatever they feel is a fair average flat rate based on their flucuating levels of volume they face. Have them wait to print all the labels until the end of their handling period. And simply have some sort of button that says "Consolidate eIS Shipments To One Box".
Then it spits out a carrier label for the master box, a batch label for eBay's internal processing to be placed on the outside of the box, and individual labels for each shipment going into the box so that eBay can identify which transaction they belong to.
I have no insight into how eBay's website is programmed or their internal system, but that isn't the craziest idea. Chit Chats does the same thing. Amazon does the same thing.
09-01-2025 08:45 PM
Sooo... if you don't opt out, but you don't offer international shipping, can you assume that by automatically enrolling you, eBay won't automatically make your items available internationally....?
I turned off USA shipping last week (I think).
09-01-2025 08:48 PM
@ilikehockeyjerseys wrote:This won't be a major issue. It's very common for items to be consolidated and shipped to warehouses. Like with anything, there most likely would be a size/weight limit for a single box. You'd also have to package everything you're shipping prior to consolidating it into a box. People have been doing this for years with various shipping services without issue, in fact with Amazon FBA unless items require some sort of prep (like a glass mug), items are just sent in loose. What most people here are suggesting is that items are protected and prepackaged ready for individual shipment, and then placed into a batch together in one box. Ala Chit Chats.
eBay would need a system where a unique label meant to assist with their hub's sorting process would be added to each individual order, and then possibly a batch label to the outside of the box. Something as simple as individual barcodes for each order might work. But that shouldn't be a major hurdle.
Then I assume eBay would simply apply the carriers label over the packaging, just as they would do if you sent the item in individually.
Based on current shipping rates, it makes too much sense to allow consolidation of packages. Let's say over a weekend I sell 20 jerseys that weigh about 1 KG in poly bags. Those are going to cost me about $12 each to ship to eBay's hub using Canada Post or UPS with eBay's discounted rates. That is $240 dollars. I could ship those consolidated into one single box for $25-$30 at most. Assuming each order is worth $100 on average, add in $66 in optional insurance at the Canada Post rate of $2.75 per $100. Let's assuming $5-$10 wholesale for a box large enough to hold 24 poly bags and rated for the appropriate weight, we'll call it $100 to ship consolidated with full insurance and safely packed.
If you're sending two shipments like that a week, that's over $800 a month in additional revenue that you can either add to your bottom line or use to lower your item costs. Savings may increase or decrease depending on the size of the items, whether they qualify for Expedited Lite, the amount of total insurance needed on the consolidated box, and where the seller is located relative to the hub.
It would be a very efficient feature. Nobody wants to hear this part, but eBay could probably charge sellers a $1-$2 "sorting fee" per item and it still might be a cost saver for some.
There is another potential option for you. Purolator allows multi-box shipments and I believe they only add the volume / weight of each box to the overall calculations (no additional fees). Click Ship has some very nice Purolator rates and supports multi-box shipments in the software.
09-01-2025 09:07 PM - edited 09-01-2025 09:15 PM
eIS is not a perfect system. This trade war initiated by the orange clown will have casualities. And what I've read in these posts is that some Canadian sellers don't mind paying for tariffs. Well, to each his own.
I for one will not pay any tariffs and if eBay offers a service to allow trouble free shipping to the USA then I'm all for it. I also don't care if it takes a week or two longer to arrive. 77 million plus voted for this orange clown so they can suffer. I do feel for my blue state customers but this is the reality were are faced with.
It wasn't until January/25 that I started feeling shipping stress for my packages being shipped to the USA. The customs delays, lack of tracking and not knowing whether my packages will be returned for no reason.
For me, eIS solves most of my problems and I only have to successfully ship my customers packages to eBay's shipping hub in Canada. eIS Canada will take care of everything else.
09-01-2025 09:12 PM
Here's an example of multi-box shipments in Click Ship. This is for sending 3 boxes from Northern Ontario to Skydome (er Rogers Centre). The boxes (in inches) are 10x10x10 1kg, 6x6x6 500g, 6x4x4 250g. Prices include tax.
ICS (tracking not fully supported in eBay): $13.01
Canpar: $15.96
Purolator: $17.91
UPS: $25.58
For comparision, the rates for the same 3 boxes going from the parliament building in Victoria (they appear to be the same from Vancouver) to Toronto are:
Purolator: $22.42
ICS: $23.02
Canpar: $23.27
UPS: $31.46
Adding a 4th box (8x8x8, 2kg) increases the BC Purolator rate to $25.43 and the northern Ontario rate to $19.28. It looks like a very good option for when eIS Canada comes in.
09-02-2025 12:40 AM
The reason that I and most other Canadians do not buy from eBay in the US, is because the Global Shipping program is expensive and takes weeks.
I don't see the Americans purchasing from Canada for the same reasong if they bring in a similar shipping system in Canada.
09-02-2025 12:59 AM - edited 09-02-2025 01:05 AM
I am wondering about returns, yes they deal with it, but do I have to pay for return shipping, what about if a buyer says their item is not as described? I sell used collectibles and while I have had very few issues over the years, I do have the odd buyer that will say there is something wrong with an item, when there is not, to either get a partial refund or they just don't want the item anymore and don't want to have to pay for return shipping. Will I be charged those costs? My other question would be the fees associated with the plan, will I be paying overall higher fees for using this service (cause the fees are already high enough). I would need to know these things before deciding. I already have to charge less for items to my US counterparts to be competitive as shipping is general is higher from Canada, and I also don't want my buyers to have to pay additional fees for shipping. And with tariffs I don't know if buyers will purchase my items as it is! I just can't see ebay doing this for buyers without somehow being compesated for it?
09-02-2025 08:47 AM
I opted out. Not going to be a Guinea pig.
09-03-2025 08:44 AM
09-03-2025 09:09 AM
and then again, maybe sellers can get beyond that idea that they can't survive without sales to the USA; or have all sellers forgotten how DT declared that the USA doesn't need Canada! C'mon folks get positive and put some effort into finding new markets.
09-03-2025 10:17 AM
This will just destroy US sales one way or another. Ebay global shipping programs are always overpriced and slow. Personally...you'll find way more success with a slight price increase, DDP, Ebay.com, and using a smaller cross border shipper that accepts domestic US labels. Of course that depends on your margins. But for all those who say they refuse to pay tariffs, it isn't like we do so because we want to. Canada's economy will continue to get way worse in the next few years. Chinese sellers are already competing hard for the European and international market. I really don't see any way forward except DDP and a margin hit.
09-03-2025 02:09 PM - edited 09-03-2025 02:09 PM
@vintage_america wrote:
I have never used calculated shipping. And the info seems to suggest it’s not necessary to be eligible for Eis. They accept flat rate as well. How do they charge a buyer shipping costs without knowing the weight/dimensions of packaging? Not sure how that works.
It doesn't do it very well, @vintage_america, that's how it works.
09-03-2025 02:20 PM - edited 09-03-2025 02:21 PM
@3islanders wrote:Sooo... if you don't opt out, but you don't offer international shipping, can you assume that by automatically enrolling you, eBay won't automatically make your items available internationally....?
I turned off USA shipping last week (I think).
@3islanders, my sense from discussions on the .com discussion boards is that there instances where sellers have had no idea that they've been opted into eIS and they're wondering why someone registered outside of the US with an Illinois address has purchased their item. Remaining opted into the program means you'd like to make your items visible and available to buyers outside of Canada without actually going through the motions of creating shipments addressed for outside of Canada as you'll be shipping eIS shipments to a Canadian address.
09-03-2025 02:32 PM
I'll look into this, thanks for the heads up.
09-03-2025 05:06 PM
@rdemaree wrote:
The only way to survive will be to sell CUSMA compliant stuff and to ship it via chit chats/ stallion or MAYBE the upcoming EIS
This will overnight shutdown tons of Canadian businesses who don’t have access to chit chats or stallion and or don’t sell a lot of CUSMA products.
Hopefully the USA Supreme Court rules in favor of the rule of law.
Certainly a lot of businesses will be hurt. For myself, as a sell almost anything kind of guy, USA sales only made up 43% of my total sales last year (I only list on dot ca and have worked hard to get my shipping costs down in Canada, so that helps).
My personal plan for the immediate future is pretty simple. Double my listing count. (I realize that doesn't work for everyone, especially those people selling their own products, etc.) When eIS Canada comes in, that should give a bit of a boost to sales. Before that happens, once the border systems are somewhat stabilized, I hope to start shipping made in USA items to the States again (mostly books).