10-28-2021 11:03 AM - edited 10-28-2021 11:07 AM
10-28-2021 12:00 PM
@teenytrinkets wrote:
Some of my listings need more visibility. I can't believe the low listing views these days. It's really bad, and I figure they're just low demand. But then I see items like mine that sold by other sellers... and for more! Why? Obviously the dreaded search algorithms eBay is using are failing us. Or maybe there's just too much out there. Maybe both. So how do we increase visibility? The only thing I can think of now is promoting... but is it worth the cost?
I'm pretty Clueless about the "ad rate". For my listings, they range from ~3% - 10%. What do we set it at to achieve optimal exposure, while not paying too much in FVF? Most of my items are less than $20-30, so it's a big hit for ebay to take another 10% of that.
Wondering if anyone that's successfully used the promoting features could share their strategy, or any other insight into the benefits of promoted listings. Thanks in advance!
Approximately 1/3 of my listed are promoted. I have run sales in several categories during Sept/Oct with crickets in results. It is apprearing that the only sellers getting eyes (the ones with deep pockets) are the those that can afford to promote EVERYTHING to the hilt. The megasellers or offshore folks (often with 12 stores selling the same products).
Since the recent category switches (where a good percent of my items are located) my traffic on dot com has fallen off the map. Below is the current report for Sept 28 to Oct 28 2021. It's barely budged in 3 weeks. On dot ca everything is heading in the direction of listings being noticed.....for lack of a better word, via external meaning Google etc. For every 5 searches, 2 are eBay and 3 are external. It was NEVER like this in the past for my listings. In the past, speaking to a variety of sellers on a regular basis, they had no problem selling to the USA or even Internationally. For me, currently a sale to a US customer is an anomoly.
Going forward, unless buyers happen to choose the exact search words from eBay there is limited chance your item will be spotted there and/or sold. Because of these factors and a few others like VAT & high shipping costs, it is just going to be more difficult for Joe or Judy seller to compete when their items are now sooooo difficult to spot.
-Lotz
10-28-2021 12:24 PM
Thank you for posting this! I had never seen the views breakdown like this so decided to try and find it on the Seller Hub and lo and behold there it was under "Review Your Traffic" (as obvious as and intriguing as that sounds I hadn't really paid attention (to many things on that overview page!) so I had never looked!) Interesting indeed! Thanks for that!
10-28-2021 12:40 PM
@msau4301 wrote:Thank you for posting this! I had never seen the views breakdown like this so decided to try and find it on the Seller Hub and lo and behold there it was under "Review Your Traffic" (as obvious as and intriguing as that sounds I hadn't really paid attention (to many things on that overview page!) so I had never looked!) Interesting indeed! Thanks for that!
I only have a very small assortment of items listed on dot com. Majority are on ca. In the past there was overlap between the 2 sites for those traffic numbers. Now dot ca is approx. 3000 views for the last 90 days vs the comparison to dot com with basically 0 views.
As a side note you can update the display period. In further testing of this any information prior to Oct 2021 appears to have been purged (On dot com...Accessible on dot ca).
-Lotz
10-28-2021 01:19 PM
Until sometime last year about 85-90% of my sales were to the USA.
In a review of destinations, I noticed that has dropped to about 50% of sales. Actual number of sales hasn't dropped, I'm shipping more to Canada. And most of the sales are still on dotCOM in USD.
This is over all my accounts, not just this one.
10-28-2021 02:53 PM
@teenytrinkets wrote:
I'm pretty Clueless about the "ad rate". For my listings, they range from ~3% - 10%. What do we set it at to achieve optimal exposure, while not paying too much in FVF? Most of my items are less than $20-30, so it's a big hit for ebay to take another 10% of that.
The SUGGESTED rates are just that and they come from eBay so hardly unbiased!
Quite a few sellers have posted that they use a 1 or 2% rate and do get results, a lot would depend on how many other sellers are promoting similar items and the rate they have used. Obviously eBay will give priority exposure to listings that have the highest likelihood of selling AND are paying the highest rates.
On a $20 sale total, fees are just shy of $3.00, a 2% PL rate would add 20 cents, not a huge amount especially if it makes the difference between getting a sale or not.
The circumstances are different for every seller so your best bet it to experiment and see what happens, it's a very small investment to try so run some experiments on a selectiuon of listings and see what happens.
Personally I've used it very sparingly, a 1% rate which does seem to bring an increase in exposure but I've applied it only to what I would consider "dead stock" so the actual amount of resulting sales has been very small.
No amount of promotion will instantly create sales if the items or the pricing isn't what buyers actually want.
10-28-2021 05:49 PM - edited 10-28-2021 05:50 PM
I'm strapped for time tonight so this isn't as eloquent as usual.....
In my 20+ years, the best thing I've ever done is started using promoted listings. (in terms of minimal cost and maximum return).
Generally everything is only 1%, I strongly suggest ignoring the recommended %.
About 66% of my items are promoted, some day I need to make them all promoted.
Generally 50% of my sales are promoted items. Remember this means the person looked at the item because it was promoted, if 100% of ones items were promoted there would still be items selling that were not found that way and not costing the promoted fee.
Often in multi sales, one item was promoted and the rest were not.
A caveat, I list in a LOT of different sub categories so I think that spreads my stuff around that I get better results than someone who does not use a lot of different sub categories.
10-28-2021 11:28 PM
10-29-2021 04:14 PM
Some other notes regarding promoted listings impacts:
I can tell if I have repeat customers with a relative idea of how long ago they purchased something. I've noticed "promoted" listings bringing back customers that haven't purhased in several years. (about 50% of my sales are to repeat customers)
I've noticed that some regular customers, despite being regular customers come back "because of" Promoted listings at least that is how it looks, virtually everything they buy is promoted. I would have thought regular buyers would come back directly to my store to shop from time to time, but there is at least part of the crowd that wouldn't without the promoted listings. I also suspect my store categories are now "too big" for searching beyond searches so people need prompts to find specific stuff.
Unfortunately I don't buy enough to see this from the buyers perspective, but I've also noticed a "new" buyer purchases something (usually promoted) and within the next 3 or 4 days they purchase another few things, often similar to the first, all promoted. This makes me believe the promoted stuff selects/shows them similar stuff to what they've purchased whenever they're back on eBay prompting secondary and thirdary purchases.
10-29-2021 07:44 PM - edited 10-29-2021 07:45 PM
This thread finally reminded me to finish making all my items promoted so I just did that a few minutes ago.
It will be interesting to see if there's any sales volume change on the weekend, my impressions will jump for sure (I added just over 1,000 items).
It's a good thing this thread came up, it finally provoked me to do one of my "to do"s that's been waiting a long time to get done! (Now on to the other 467,213 on the list 😉)
11-01-2021 02:32 PM
@ricarmic wrote:This thread finally reminded me to finish making all my items promoted so I just did that a few minutes ago.
It will be interesting to see if there's any sales volume change on the weekend, my impressions will jump for sure (I added just over 1,000 items).
It's a good thing this thread came up, it finally provoked me to do one of my "to do"s that's been waiting a long time to get done! (Now on to the other 467,213 on the list 😉)
Regarding the info on the new programs has anyone been able to confirm if new Promoted Listing Advanced/Promoted Listed Express (or whatever their called) are live on dot ca? The other thing I am reading is it is only available for APP users. So not from Sellers Hub. Not cool for the folks that still find it easier to list on a PC. Lastly, curious to know how easy it is to A)Test and/or cancel if you choose to...Mid Campaign. The rates some sellers on dot com are seeing are a little whackadoodle so not sure how much it would pump up sales for "some" sellers or how costly it could end up being. See link.. Auctions only?!?! Head scratcher!!
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/listings/promoted-listings-overview?id=5295
In quick testing pages are not currently available to dot ca.
-Lotz
11-01-2021 03:06 PM - edited 11-01-2021 03:08 PM
I don't know about the "per click" promoted items, I think I mentioned it somewhere but I don't plan in the forseable future to use the "per click" promoted items because most of my items are not multi item listings.
I expect that it is really only good for stuff one has lots of to make it worthwhile, and I really don't have much of anything with enough quantity to warrant it at this time. (plus the 1% regular style is working gangbusters still for me, a strong weekend, my extra 1,000 promoted items and related burst of views (50,000 more impressions on Sunday than the previous highest day in the last month) etc has made a difference, perhaps only temporary but I'll take what I can get!).
11-01-2021 03:30 PM
All I am seeing is an uptick(^) in listings being viewed from google(^) vs eBay(-) on dot ca. My listings have religously sold better from an eBay search. And in checking my store on dot com crickets in ANY searches since category updates went live in October (18 Page Views/895 Impressions) 1100 + listings.
-Lotz
11-01-2021 06:10 PM
My organic impressions are very stable, both on .CA and .COM
I'm not sure these numbers are really of any use to anyone other than stamp folks but here's my numbers:
.COM 2,895 promoted listings
Average impressions in the range of 175,000 per day before I made everything promoted, now looks like average will come in around 225,000 per day.
Organic impressions very consistently around 20,000
.CA 1,018 promoted listings
Average impressions in the range of 40,000 before I made everything promoted, now looks like it will come in around 55,000 per day
Organic impressions very consistently around 10,000