Certain types of drop shipping not allowed now.

I came across this today on youtube covering drop shipping and how the rules have changed. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd4ZHViFt6U

 

It doesn't concern me but is good info for some sellers who do dropship.

 

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Yes, I read that last week:

https://www.ecommercebytes.com/2019/01/21/ebay-frowns-on-orders-wrapped-in-amazon-smiles/

I’m not certain what impact this will have on those that do. If a seller has built his whole business model on this now-prohibited practice, I can’t imagine he’d stop until he was forced to stop as opposed as merely told to stop. Glad it’s not me.
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I remember a buyer on .com complained that he bought it on ebay but it was delivered by walmart and the invoice on/in the box was a lot less than he paid.

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I don’t disagree with it. Buyers unquestionably feel ripped off if they see what you’ve described, whether or not that feeling is valid from a business standpoint.
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There are a group of sellers of books that are known as "book-jackers'

 

They will list a book.  When they sell the book they have another seller  of the book mail it to the buyer.

 

Many sellers of books list books at low prices.... just to "sell them"

 

Other sellers take advantage of this lower price  and list the book at a higher price.....  sometimes a much higher price....even though they do not have the book.  When the book sells the seller .... the book-jacker.....makes a profit... sometimes a very good profit.

 

Are there book-jackers on eBay?  There is a list of book-jackers on a website on the internet..... but maybe not on eBay...  

 

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@musicyouneed wrote:

I remember a buyer on .com complained that he bought it on ebay but it was delivered by walmart and the invoice on/in the box was a lot less than he paid.


This happened to me (something I was buying for someone else thankfully, they sent me the ebay link and asked me to buy it).

 

I've also purchased items on ebay that came directly from walmart (as opposed to through a 3rd party).

 

Ian

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I am having frustration with using a reputable Print On Demand service that eBay treats like any other drop shipper even though it is not the same. There are many reputable POD companies, that print original artwork by designers such as myself, on everything from leggings to furniture. Some are based in the US, some in the UK, some have locations in North America and Europe, among other places. The one I use has recently added eBay as a platform from which the designer can upload their items straight from the POD site.

I've been using them with Etsy for a while now with very good results but I never put all my eggs in one basket. Printful is one of the older POD companies and I have found them to have extremely good customer service, quality and reliability. My orders through Etsy have reached my customers within two weeks and I have had no complaints which is why I was thrilled to find that I could integrate my designs with my eBay store.

Unfortunately, probably because of the problems experienced with unreliable drop shipping companies, eBay paints them all with the same brush. They need to do a little research on the difference between print on demand and overseas drop shipping. Once my products are up on my eBay store, I can't edit them and they are given that little yellow flag warning customers that the item might take up to several weeks to ship, which is completely wrong. They insist its a "quantity based item" and they haven't bothered to investigate the difference between legitimate, well established and respected, print on demand companies and shady drop shipping places that lure in sellers with a get rich quick pitch. There's a huge difference.

They also won't allow me to tick off the "pay immediately with paypal" box. I am really hoping they will take a closer look at print on demand and see that although the fulfillment of the order, packing and shipping to the customer is the same principal as drop shipping, the rest is a world of difference. I don't have to sell my designs on eBay but since I already have an established store here with a good reputation, why wouldn't I?

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@ichopshop 

I've also purchased items on ebay that came directly from walmart (as opposed to through a 3rd party).

 

At one time, WalMart used eBay to learn about online selling. Target did the same.

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@Anonymous 

Do you show the location of your products as your own or as the location of your printer?

The correct one would be the printer's location, of course, which allows the buyer to judge time for delivery and the possiblity of import fees.

 

Does that change the time warning?

Since some eBay sellers use 'fulfillment centres' for shipping, including AZs centre, it might make a difference.

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Hi @Anonymous  - would you mind getting me a screenshot of what you're referring to? I've looked at a number of your listings and do not see any indication that your items would ship later than the estimated delivery dates. 

 

I'm also seeing the items' locations as United States. If you'll get me more detail about what you're seeing I'd love to help get this sorted!

When you do reply, please make sure to tag me so I get the notification. You can tag me by typing the '@' symbol followed by my handle: tyler@ebay. 

 

Thanks!

Tyler,
eBay
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They all say located in North Carolina but thank you for responding.

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tyler@ebay  Thank you for replying, I really appreciate it. I also hope I have not hijacked someone else's thread but as it does pertain to drop shipping, hopefully that is not the case.

Whenever I look at my listings and I am not logged in I see the little yellow flag. Also it will not allow me to check the "pay immediately with Paypal" box.

update: Okay, I can't see the little yellow flag any more either, but I would like to see eBay allow us more freedom to make changes to those listings. Some of my designs are really popular (although there are far, far more talented artists out there than myself) and obviously eBay can make money from allowing these listings from POD that are well established and completely reliable. Tyler I am really happy that you took notice of this, again, I thank you.

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tyler@ebay  Thank you for replying, I really appreciate it. I also hope I have not hijacked someone else's thread but as it does pertain to drop shipping, hopefully that is not the case.

Whenever I look at my listings and I am not logged in I see the little yellow flag. Also it will not allow me to check the "pay immediately with Paypal" box.

update: Okay, I can't see the little yellow flag any more either, but I would like to see eBay allow us more freedom to make changes to those listings. Some of my designs are really popular (although there are far, far more talented artists out there than myself) and obviously eBay can make money from allowing these listings from POD that are well established and completely reliable. Tyler I am really happy that you took notice of this, again, I thank you.


Hi @Anonymous  - happy to help, though I must admit I'm a bit confused as to what's happening here!

 

We shouldn't be preventing you from using the Immediate Payment Required box when setting up your listings. Will you get me an item number you are seeing that will not allow you to check the box?

 

I'm also not aware of any situation where we wouldn't allow you to use a (great) POD service, as long as you are accurately representing the item's location, there shouldn't be an issue. Can you get me more detail on any pushback you're encountering from the system?

Tyler,
eBay
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Well, tyler@ebay I don't know what you did, but suddenly I am now able to revise my listings from Printful. Somebody fixed something and I am happy but there was a catch: this is the very first time since I opened my eBay account about 1& 1/2 years ago, that I have been asked to verify it's really me. This happens on a lot of other sites because my internet is wifi, the only option for me in a remote area. I don't have a static ip, therefore I am often asked by companies such as Steam to verify it's me because they see it as a different computer every time I log in.

It has never happened with eBay before and it's not a huge thing but when you're really busy, it's annoying to have to get a text message with a code, especially since it has NEVER happened before on eBay.

lol solve one problem, find another I guess. I don't know if there's anything you can do about that but it seems I am able to at least start revising my items from my POD platform integration to check off "pay immediately."

update: spoke too soon. I just managed to get you a picture of the little warning flag I was talking about, printscreen didn't seem to work so I took a picture of my monitor with my phone.  shh don't laugh, I know it's sideways and I'm sorry. But you can see the flag. I guess this problem is not a consistent one which makes it kind of weird, but maybe you can sort it out. Thank you again Tyler.IMG_3711.JPG

 

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tyler@ebay
I just came across one that won't allow any revisions as I was going through them all to check off Pay Immediately.
This is the message, it came up with a red stop icon
It looks like there's a problem with this listing.

"Inventory-based listing management is not currently supported by this tool. Please refer to the tool used to create this listing."

for the record I cannot edit it from Printful, I spoke to their customer service and they have no control over how its listed here on eBay.

 

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Well, tyler@ebay I don't know what you did, but suddenly I am now able to revise my listings from Printful. Somebody fixed something and I am happy but there was a catch: this is the very first time since I opened my eBay account about 1& 1/2 years ago, that I have been asked to verify it's really me. This happens on a lot of other sites because my internet is wifi, the only option for me in a remote area. I don't have a static ip, therefore I am often asked by companies such as Steam to verify it's me because they see it as a different computer every time I log in.

It has never happened with eBay before and it's not a huge thing but when you're really busy, it's annoying to have to get a text message with a code, especially since it has NEVER happened before on eBay.

lol solve one problem, find another I guess. I don't know if there's anything you can do about that but it seems I am able to at least start revising my items from my POD platform integration to check off "pay immediately."

update: spoke too soon. I just managed to get you a picture of the little warning flag I was talking about, printscreen didn't seem to work so I took a picture of my monitor with my phone.  shh don't laugh, I know it's sideways and I'm sorry. But you can see the flag. I guess this problem is not a consistent one which makes it kind of weird, but maybe you can sort it out. Thank you again Tyler.IMG_3711.JPG

 


Thanks for the screenshot @Anonymous  - that's actually very helpful.

 

This is a typical warning flag to potential buyers when your total shipping and handling time exceeds certain thresholds. We want to ensure that members are well aware of such an extended processing time before they buy from you to help reduce any friction post-sale and leave you with upset customers. 

 

It is an informational-only flag, and does not prevent or block purchases.

 

 

Tyler,
eBay
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tyler@ebay
I just came across one that won't allow any revisions as I was going through them all to check off Pay Immediately.
This is the message, it came up with a red stop icon
It looks like there's a problem with this listing.

"Inventory-based listing management is not currently supported by this tool. Please refer to the tool used to create this listing."

for the record I cannot edit it from Printful, I spoke to their customer service and they have no control over how its listed here on eBay.

 


Also super helpful, thank you @Anonymous!

 

Are you revising these items through eBay or through your Printful account? The type of error message you received isn't one I've heard of through eBay before, I'm wondering if maybe their API is running into something unusual. While that wouldn't be something that I could help you fix, we could just have you switch to modify all your listings directly through eBay's tools (the Bulk Edit tool is actually pretty helpful).

 

Will you try to revise that same item directly from eBay? If you get the same error get me the item number and I'll have a go at it. 🙂

Tyler,
eBay
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tyler@ebay 

I'm sorry Tyler I should have been more specific. I was trying to revise it directly from eBay and that was where I received that error message telling me I couldn't make any changes. I only mentioned I can't edit from Printful to make it clear there's no way to solve it from their end.

Also, the little flag only shows up on some listings and not on others although the turnaround time is exactly the same. I could be wrong but I actually think it is on some of my earlier listings from Printful. I don't like it because it is a perception issue, it might put customers off.

I used to love the bulk listing edit feature but they took it away unless we pay for a professional account, something I am not in a position to do yet.

I really appreciate your help with this. The item number is 132893681780. Again, I thank you.

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“I used to love the bulk listing edit feature but they took it away unless we pay for a professional account, something I am not in a position to do yet.”

They? Who is the ‘they’ in this scenario: eBay or the Printful place? There is no upsell for the bulk edit tool on eBay.... of which I’m reasonably aware. It’s not a tool reserved for store subscribers, for example, unlike markdown manager or vacation holds.
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tyler@ebay 

I'm sorry Tyler I should have been more specific. I was trying to revise it directly from eBay and that was where I received that error message telling me I couldn't make any changes. I only mentioned I can't edit from Printful to make it clear there's no way to solve it from their end.

Also, the little flag only shows up on some listings and not on others although the turnaround time is exactly the same. I could be wrong but I actually think it is on some of my earlier listings from Printful. I don't like it because it is a perception issue, it might put customers off.

I used to love the bulk listing edit feature but they took it away unless we pay for a professional account, something I am not in a position to do yet.

I really appreciate your help with this. The item number is 132893681780. Again, I thank you.


Thanks so much for this! Looking into it I can recreate the same error. 

 

Can you tell me how you created listing 132893681780? Was it through some other tool or was it directly on eBay?

 

Also to Mo's point, you are still able to edit items in bulk without paying an additional fee. You can use the 'Seller Hub' to get access to the bulk editing feature. It's free and you can visit it from the header at the top of the 'Active Listings' page (it should says something like 'Are you a professional seller? Check out Seller Hub for advanced tools.')

 

Tagging @Anonymous to get them the notification. 🙂

Tyler,
eBay
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