De minimis allowed - for now

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@recped wrote:

Typical garbage announcement from eBay, they should stay away from the whole subject if all they can do is spread misinformation.

 

From 3 April 2025, 12:01 AM EDT, Based on the most recent announcement, US buyers will be responsible for additional duties on most orders of more than $800; they may also be asked to provide personal information to facilitate the customs clearance of their orders. 

 

1 - The $800 exemption (they don't specify that is US Dollars)

 

2 - They do not mention this exemption is only available for goods covered by the USMCA, if your are shipping non-USMCA goods the exemption does not apply.

 

Ensure the item location for your listings is accurate

 

Item location is irrelevant for customs matters, Country of Origin is the basis for ALL tariffs in ALL countries for ALL products. Transshipping through a third country does not change the liability to pay tariffs place on goods from the first country unless significant processing in the intermediary country. Under the USMCA the value of said processing must be 51% or more of the final declared value.

 

For example:

 

A - You buy finished jewelry from China and sell to US buyers (Not USMCA eligible)

 

B - you buy beads from China which you use in the making of jewelry, the beads are only a minor portion of the materials, the rest come from Mexico, USA or Canada and the labor is all Canadian (this IS USMCA eligible)

 

The rules for country of origin when the raw materials originate in many different countries are complex.

 

 


 

@recped 

They also note in that announcement that they will remove defects for tracked shipments that are delayed by customs. Probably not super helpful that in dark of night they have toasted Intl tracked as a valid service for people that use eBay labels without informing sellers. Xpresspost is NOT an reasonable alternative but has become the defacto service. Not everywhere in Canada has easy access to a UPS depot. The backup alternative.

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@lotzofuniquegoodies wrote:

@recped 

They also note in that announcement that they will remove defects for tracked shipments that are delayed by customs. Probably not super helpful that in dark of night they have toasted Intl tracked as a valid service for people that use eBay labels without informing sellers. Xpresspost is NOT an reasonable alternative but has become the defacto service. Not everywhere in Canada has easy access to a UPS depot. The backup alternative


EasyShip seems to be a very good alternative for tracked packet international (maybe even slightly cheaper than eBay). I say that with the caveat that I haven't actually created a tracked packet international label with them yet, but I have been researching prices.

Another option could be Stallion Express. If you don't live near a branch you'd have to ship the item to them (and set the handling time appropriately), but the combo would almost certainly be a lot cheaper than XpressPost international.

I know it doesn't solve the root problem, but partial solutions are better than no solutions.

 

As an example, for me to send a 200g 6x4x4 parcel to the UK is $16.44 through eBay, it's $15.25 through EasyShip, and $7.63 + $8.25 = $15.88 through Shipping Chimp (to get it to Toronto from Northern Ontario) + Stallion Express.

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The thing about a GSP program is that they could funnel all domestic shipments through GSP and in the long-term it would be more efficient for most items. This would increase the volume because unlike with the USA program where it is only international packages that are sent through GSP, they could also take domestic packages.

 

The only reason I don't use Stallion for domestic parcels is because there isn't a mainstream drop spot. If I could use Stallion, I would for anything that isn't remote, or rural. The prices are much lower than both Canada Post and UPS. The only exception being some Expedited Lite packages, and some local parcels that Canada Post now offers a steep discount on.

 

Two major threats to eBay Canada are the impending collapse or restructuring of Canada Post, and potential difficulties with shipping to the USA. Combine that with the unwillingness of most sellers to ship internationally due to the perceived added complications that come with it. An eBay shipping program could protect against those.

 

The big thing is that they need a mainstream drop spot. With Amazon, in my region you can drop returns at places like Circle K (convenient store that is everywhere in my city).

 

Lettermail is a big component of Canadian shipping on eBay, but if you look at the current price increase for lettermail, that is going to eventually be phased out. OS Lettermail now costs between $6-$7 for anything above 200g. The viability of being a "lettermail" seller is not going to last much longer. That is going to be another major threat to eBay sellers on .CA - and it's why there could be a lot of demand for a central shipping program that leverages eBay Canada's volume both domestically and internationally. Stallion is already a proof of concept that this can work domestically.

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" Combine that with the unwillingness of most sellers to ship internationally due to the perceived added complications that come with it. An eBay shipping program could protect against those."

An International shipping program does NOT prevent all obstacles with shipping International, nor does it protect either seller or buyer in all situations. It is NOT a fail-safe mechanism. In a perfect world, perhaps but we must work with realities. eBay is NOT Amazon and that seems to be what you are wishing for...

so perhaps you should be selling on Amazon instead of eBay...

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@mrdutch1001 wrote:

" Combine that with the unwillingness of most sellers to ship internationally due to the perceived added complications that come with it. An eBay shipping program could protect against those."

An International shipping program does NOT prevent all obstacles with shipping International, nor does it protect either seller or buyer in all situations. It is NOT a fail-safe mechanism. In a perfect world, perhaps but we must work with realities. eBay is NOT Amazon and that seems to be what you are wishing for...

so perhaps you should be selling on Amazon instead of eBay...


@mrdutch1001 

@ilikehockeyjerseys 

@reallynicestamps 

It may be partially the understanding of US sellers that either Intl. shipping is complicated or more time consuming but my money is on the reduced FVF's for shipping. They only pay to hub. 

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