Fee is changing for non store in the midle of May

[asyahijab]

http://announcements.ebay.com/2014/04/sellers-updates-to-fees-in-select-categories-could-mean-more-f...

[treasure.hunter.d]

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@recped wrote:

How soon they forget!!!

Do any of you people remember that way way back in the ancient times 12 MONTHS AGO........

The 50 free listings that non-store sellers received were for AUCTIONS ONLY!!!!

So let me get this straight, 50 free Auctions was great until May of 2013, then they added the option to list FP for one year, now it's going back to Auctions only (for select categories) but you get twice as many.

Yeah eBay is really evil!

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So you show up at work tomorrow and your boss says" Hey, I know we've been paying you $20/hr for the last year and that's been going well for you but we've decided it's in our best interest to knock you back to $10/hr"

Care to rethink your post on how this isn't that bad!

[pocomocomputing]

eBay rules change all the time. So the new 100 free is just another change. Just adapt. That is what many forum members always says. Adapt.

What concerns me more is the free promos. What will happen there? Will they change? Will they be less frequent? Will eBay put restrictive rules like the non-store on them?

I have not used up my 50 free for non-store for months now. The free promos occur so often and I have been lucky enough to get 75% of them, that I do not use up my 50 free. Any changes to promo details or the frequency of the promos would be a bigger problem.

[mr.elmwood]

As a store owner, I never used to get offers. In the last a few months, they have been pouring in.

I get my 500 with my store and then more because i am a good little store owner.

[chiboukiqc]

I hate the fact that free listings will now be for a maximum of 10 days instead of 30.... More relisting...that sucks...

I might get a store for that reason alone....

[mr.elmwood]

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@chiboukiqc wrote:

I hate the fact that free listings will now be for a maximum of 10 days instead of 30.... More relisting...that sucks...

I might get a store for that reason alone....

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Ya see! Time VS money. Cut out three of yer Stabuck's Lattes a month, boom, store paid for.

[treasure.hunter.d]

If you notice they also haven't targeted any of the categories that the Chinese Crooks are running rampantly over. It shows who Ebay cares about and who they don't.

Ebay will continue to run propaganda saying come one come all large sellers and small can sell and make cash and that is an UTTER LIE.

Ebay has no credibility any longer and quite frankly a lot of the practices are now bordering on corrupt if no already there.

[cjacki]

I missed that. Where does it say free listings are only good for 10 days? As well, eBay.ca new rules start June 1st.

So, the first 50 are auction and can only be in the categories they listed. The next 50 can be auction or fixed price and used in any category that they did not list. Have I got that right?

[mr.elmwood]

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@cjacki wrote:

I missed that. Where does it say free listings are only good for 10 days? As well, eBay.ca new rules start June 1st.

So, the first 50 are auction and can only be in the categories they listed. The next 50 can be auction or fixed price and used in any category that they did not list. Have I got that right?

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That is what I am sorta understanding.

Store owners are being put in the VIP line and the others are going in the rush seating for the nose bleed section.

I saw this coming.

[rosscd57]

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@mr.elmwood wrote:

Seems that ebay is saying "Ya can't afford $20 for a basic store? Well, er, um, happy trails".

I do believe they want the small sellers gone.

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These are the categories in question:

Antiques Art Baby Clothing,

Shoes & Accessories

Coins & Paper Money

Collectibles

Dolls & Bears

Entertainment Memorabilia

Health & Beauty

Jewelry & Watches

Pottery & Glass

Sports Memorabilia,

Cards & Fan Shop

Stamps

Toys & Hobbies

Then why don't they hive these categories off and throw together something akin to Kijiji - but a strictly an auctions site. A retro eBay site with different name. Or even better hive it off as part of Kijiji as it is already established.

There is still big money to be made in those categories and there are still millions of sellers and buyers who love auctions.

[faircrochet]

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@rosscd57 wrote:

Then why don't they hive these categories off and throw together something akin to Kijiji - but a strictly an auctions site. A retro eBay site with different name. Or even better hive it off as part of Kijiji as it is already established.

There is still big money to be made in those categories and there are still millions of sellers and buyers who love auctions.

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The people with stores in those categories might not be so happy being "hived off" to Kijiji - they can still list fixed price there.  People without stores can list fixed price for the 30cent fee, too.  It's only non-store people who want to use the basic free listings that have to use the auction format.

[lady.stark]

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@zee-chan-jpn-books wrote:

To keep our buyers engaged, and to help ensure that new sellers and those who sell occasionally have the best opportunity to succeed, we will be making some updates to the standard fee structure (fees for sellers without an eBay Stores subscription). 

^That's a big fat lie. I'm one of the occasional sellers that's getting wiped out by this.

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You are SO right! It is a big fat lie. In fact, this update is very, VERY depressing for me. I don't sell enough to have a store and ALL my items are in the "Collectibles" category!! And auction items do NOT sell very well - at least for me 😞

Now I know why I got an invite to open a store for free for 20 days.... I didn't accept the offer, because I would have had to cancel it after May 15 - or pay the fees, which I can't afford. And I know why most of the items I sold lately were GTC items... eBay probably showed them more in search results in order to make me *think* I had to open a store, because my items would get more exposure. But I know better. Sneaky eBay.

I will also have to search for all the items I listed GTC and close them, as I do not want to pay their stupid insertion fees after May 15.

[lady.stark]

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@recped wrote:

So let me get this straight, 50 free Auctions was great until May of 2013, then they added the option to list FP for one year, now it's going back to Auctions only (for select categories) but you get twice as many.

Yeah eBay is really evil!

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Yes, they are. They gave us a cake saying "you can eat it all". But halfway, they come back and say "Hey, I thought about it and now that you enjoyed a bit of your cake, I'll take back the rest. Hope you enjoyed it while it lasted... and if you want to enjoy the rest, you have to pay."

Relisting auctions is much more work than the GTC listings I enjoyed for FREE for a year. Very frustrating!

[pocomocomputing]

lady stark and others, the new non-store fees start June 1 on eBay.ca. Here is the eBay.ca announcement

http://announcements.ebay.ca/2014/04/30/7598/

If you list on eBay.ca, June1 st. If you list on eBay.com, May 15. If you list on both sites, pay attention to the two different dates.

[mr.elmwood]

Like I keep saying, this is just the beginning.

The life of free listings will be: list, expired listings, unsold folder, relist but a copy stays in unsold, so ya have an active and an unsold at the same time, then, what is listed, what is not, BOOM BABY double list an ya start the MC999 for duplicates.

Or?

Keep rotating the same listings from unsold to list, delete from unsold. The potential for error is very high.

I say their goal is to frustrate you into either quitting or buying a store.

[westernstargifts]

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@treasure.hunter.d wrote:

If you notice they also haven't targeted any of the categories that the Chinese Crooks are running rampantly over. It shows who Ebay cares about and who they don't.

Ebay will continue to run propaganda saying come one come all large sellers and small can sell and make cash and that is an UTTER LIE.

Ebay has no credibility any longer and quite frankly a lot of the practices are now bordering on corrupt if no already there.

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???  The Chinese sellers are all over my category which is included in the list.

[pjcdn2005]

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@pocomocomputing wrote:

lady stark and others, the new non-store fees start June 1 on eBay.ca. Here is the eBay.ca announcement

http://announcements.ebay.ca/2014/04/30/7598/

If you list on eBay.ca, June1 st. If you list on eBay.com, May 15. If you list on both sites, pay attention to the two different dates.

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That's interesting. But I wonder if it could be a typo that .ca made.

[diggergirlcaron]

I think what has burned me most was the 30% higher than auction FP rule. I always did auctions in the past (prior to May '13) but since the 30% change I switched to all FP. Now we are going to have to figure out how to make it work again and we will.
I should have opened a store forever ago but I keep thinking I'll run out of things to sell/get bored with it/get to busy etc but I never do. I'll see how it goes but I'm not going to worry about it. The last auction only promo went surprisingly well so I'll trust eBay for now 😉

[greenmangoes]

Does this mean you CANNOT list fixed listings until AFTER you list 50 auction listings?  I'm confused 😞

I don't understand why the change unless they are hoping more sellers will open stores that way eBay gets paid regardless if you sell or not.

I don't see much benefit for non-store owners - only more hassle.  I was hoping to open a store at some point but I hardly get any sales in order to do so and now I think the situation won't be any better.  I see lots of people saying their sales are tanking so I don't think this change will help.

[pjcdn2005]

Does this mean you CANNOT list fixed listings until AFTER you list 50 auction listings?  I'm confused

You don't have do things in a specific order but unless you list in the categories not listed, fixed price listings are not free.

[recped]

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@pjcdn2005 wrote:

Does this mean you CANNOT list fixed listings until AFTER you list 50 auction listings?  I'm confused

You don't have do things in a specific order but unless you list in the categories not listed, fixed price listings are not free.

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Except that most sellers are getting at least one Fixed Price promo every month over and above the "free" listings. Unless things change the promos are open to all categories.

If you are a "small" seller I can't imagine why you would ever pay for listings given the amount of freebies that are available.