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10-30-2013 04:45 PM
Hey folks,
I sold a item in which the buyer was a International buyer.. I shipped the item and he confirms he has received it..He now states it is (to him) a fake and demands a refund..First off I do not sell fake items and when I asked as to why he thinks it is fake, he states it is in different packaging then one he previously bought online.. Whatever..he's not happy so I advise that if he does not like the item to return it and I would refund him.. He comes back and states he will not return it as he would be arrested for shipping again what he considers a fake item. He then proceeds to write threats..
I have been more than pleasant to this chap but now with his threats he is just plain making me well not happy..
What would you do?
I personally think he is trying to pull a scam..
any advice would be helpful as this is a first for me
He has a feedback of 35
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10-30-2013 05:21 PM
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No return....no refund!

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10-30-2013 05:22 PM
"What would you do?"
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10-30-2013 05:24 PM
I know If I received fake items I would immediately send the item back for a refund. It is not illegal to return mail.
Again, if the buyer is being troublesome, ebay customer service is the key to deal with this. But phone them, do not email.
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10-30-2013 05:30 PM
Thats What I say.. He just filed a dispute...I will be glad to provide all the emails to them
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10-30-2013 05:58 PM
Contact ebay and see what your options are
You don't need to call eBay, the options are clear:
Give them a refund and let them keep the item.
Tell them they have to return the item.
Tell them to pound sand.
Only the middle choice makes any sense unless you think you can convince them the item is legit (keep in mind "it's a fake" usually means "I changed My mind").

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10-30-2013 06:26 PM
For myself I try to keep my 100% positive FB score and will do whatever it takes to solve the issue.
But what do I know, I just started selling this year and have not come into a situation I couldn't handle myself. So I can only offer my amateur opinion, and hope it helps.
Obviously it's on you on how you proceed from this point, depending on how far you are willing to go to protect yourself as a seller.
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10-30-2013 08:05 PM
You could listen to recped and just deal with this yourself, but obviously the buyer isn't being cooperative and will most likely leave a negative FB, which is potentially ruining your reputation as a seller. Hence the reason I said to contact ebay.
IF the buyer leaves a neg, THEN you call eBay, all the messages etc are still there for eBay to review. eBay can't block the buyer from leaving whatever feredback they like, they can only remove something that's been given so calling now just ties up your time and their time and really accomplishes nothing.
I find this "call eBay and get it on the record" to be kind of funny, using "report a buyer" to report something that hasn't happened is like crying wolf, after a while these reports go straight to the trash since they don't mean anything.

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10-30-2013 08:36 PM
Tell hiim if he is such a law abiding citizen he might want to stop sending threats LOL ...
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10-30-2013 09:45 PM
well he left negative feedback... I have reported him and hope Ebay will do the right thing and remove his lies...soooo mad..right now
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10-30-2013 10:26 PM
By all means get a hold of eBay.
This feedback could really hurt your business.
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10-30-2013 11:39 PM
OK now you have the neg it's time to contact eBay. First thing, let it lie until at least tomorrow afternoon.
Your best hope here is the Feedback Extortion policy. Have a good read of the policy and then try to find something in the messages you have had that meet the standard. eBay can pretty picky, the extortion needs to be clear, ie: asking for something and mentioning feedback together such as a refund without return.
I can't mai it back because it's a fake is a pretty flimsy excuse but the wrong csr peron might buy it, hoipe you have something clear cut.
Unfortunately the recently improved standard feedback revision policy specifically allows buyers to call you a fraud or scammer. Hopefully any replies you gave to the buyer were civil and stayed on point, eBay may review them as well and if it looks like a fight between two willing participants them may just wash their hands of it.

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10-31-2013 05:33 AM
Slightly off-topic since I don't have other advices to offer... Now I can't add this buyer to my BBL because stupid ebay won't let us look at feedback linking to buyers anymore. =( So sad.
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10-31-2013 10:38 AM
It looks like you have sold a heck of a lot of these items to other buyers. I suggest that you work that into your dispute defense. Ask eBay to contact other buyers who from the feedback you have recieved, are very happy with the item and do not think it is a fake.
Old enough to know better. Young enough to do it again. Crazy enough to try
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10-31-2013 10:46 AM
zee-chan wrote:
Slightly off-topic since I don't have other advices to offer... Now I can't add this buyer to my BBL because stupid ebay won't let us look at feedback linking to buyers anymore. =( So sad.
Sure you can just bring up your closed listing and click on the buyers feedback - I just tested it on two of my recent sales. Both of their feedback histories came up.
Old enough to know better. Young enough to do it again. Crazy enough to try
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10-31-2013 12:36 PM
'ross' -- I think maybe 'zee-chan' was referring to wanting to block the OP's problem buyer, not one of his own.
Looking at the OP's sold items on his FB page won't give you the buyer's full ID now.
Actually, this is one disadvantage to the recent changes in eBay's display of buyer history that I hadn't thought of -- I've blocked a few problem buyers in the past based on issues that people have brought to these boards. Not possible anymore, unless somebody here knows a back-door workaround...
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10-31-2013 08:18 PM
Yes, I was referring to wanting to block the OP's buyer, not my own.
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10-31-2013 08:18 PM
RYFKM just got off the phone with Ebay...I guess it's true they suck for buyer protection ..they refuse to remove the negative feedback even though they were given te emails and seen all the feedback to prove this guy is a scammer... so i'm done i can't believe they would not care about the 300 a month i pay in fees...i'm just a small fish to them...sad really..i will give someone else my 300 a month in fees...thanks everyone have a happy halloween
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10-31-2013 09:46 PM
Giving up because you got a neg is...well it's foolish. If you were paying $300/month in fees you were selling $3000 worth of goods, you will let one idiot wreck that?
Sugest you rethink in the morning.........

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