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Just listed a quilt.  Right away, I looked at the listing, to make sure all was correct.  To my surprise, it showed 17 people had looked.  Obviously, that's not right, so here's a thought.  To all of us sellers, who may think nobody is looking at our stuff, just ignore the counters.  It's too discouraging.  The important thing is sales.  Hopefully with our sagging Can. $,  our sales will pick up soon.  Cheers all.

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That is a very good point.

 

Normally I don't use them much because it is "easier" to just watch the visitor counts on "my ebay" as opposed to signing in for the other - I mentioned elsewhere that I'm normally just checking to see if something is popular or not for the first while after it is listed.

 

The main reason I do go to the traffic reports is to see what keywords are bringing folks in, that information is helpful to me.

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Well, I disagree. Are you saying feedback is not important? It's as important here, as it is for the buyers and sellers. I would want advise from someone who has tons of neg. feedback. So to me, take is worth the tons of money that are losing while being here instead of doing more listing. It's your choice to be here and the so called banter, is part of giving ones opinion. I for one live in a free country, where we are allowed to give our opinion. How about you?
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THX for posting the listing analytics hadn't noticed it before!
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P.s. you have no items listed. So where are you losing all of this money. You don't seemed to be selling. This is the kind of thing that I meant earlier. Anyone can say anything. And when one looks further, they see smoke and mirrors!
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"...the tons of money that are losing while being here instead of doing more listing.'

 

???

 

What does that mean? 

 

Are you suggesting nobody should waste their time posting here but list, list, list instead - in order to make more money?

 

We all have different priorities in life, often depending on personal circumstances.  If an individual wishes to spend time on social media (this is what these boards are all about) to help others, that's great and motivation should not be questionned.

 

Others may prefer to spend the same time on other media (Facebook, Tweeter, etc...) for more entertainement or exchange of ideas.  That's great too.

 

Others may prefer to work, work, work.  That's fine too.  Others may prefer to spend time with freind or family.  That's fine too.

 

As stated earlier, I would rather pay attention to the message than attempt to judge the messenger without having many facts to do so.

 

Feedback rating is only one factor to assess credibility.

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Uh, I was just replying to what the other person said. Please read to whom, I was answering to?
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Hi! Feedback is important but it is not the only thing one can use to identify credibility.

 

My main point is that you read what the person says, you may choose to use the information or not but it is up to you to decide if it is credible or not.

 

Some people with lots of feedback post stuff that is not of use to me, some people with little feedback post stuff that is of use to me.

 

I have given my opinion, you've given yours, just as we're allowed to do in our free country....

 

 

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Hi,

Understood and agree. My point being, for example, that if someone is giving you tips on how to improve your DSR and their's are low... But if they use alternate id, you'd never know.
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@pinetreecottage wrote:

Just listed a quilt.  Right away, I looked at the listing, to make sure all was correct.  To my surprise, it showed 17 people had looked.  Obviously, that's not right, so here's a thought.  To all of us sellers, who may think nobody is looking at our stuff, just ignore the counters.  It's too discouraging.  The important thing is sales. 


I've noticed this in the "hits" counter too at the very start of a listing, but only since about early 2013.  My theory is that it's connected with the new "Feeds", i.e. any view of the item on the "Feed" adds to the count immediately since newly listed items seem to get posted on the "Feed" page very, very quickly.  I use Auctiva so I add an Auctiva counter to my listings, which these days almost always has a different number from eBay's counter.  This tells me the "Feed" may indeed be the generator of all those instant, early hits. 

Although I don't get too excited about visitor numbers, I do know that an item which generates a lot of hits within the first day or two will usually sell quickly, and one that gets fewer hits is likely going to take a long time to sell.  In that sense, counters are helpful.  However, in response to "Inuk's" comment, I think counters may be a lot less meaningful for items people need  more, and far more significant when you're selling items people may want  but aren't necessarily looking for (i.e. discretionary or luxury spending). 

 

Personally, I've found the Omniture statistics are worth almost the whole cost of a store subscription.  Like 'bb', I keep a regular watch on them.  They not only show how many buyers have dropped in, but what they were looking for in the first place, where in the world they are, search keywords used, sites from which the traffic arrived, how many were new visitors, what items were most popular, etc.  This is valuable marketing information, and helps a great deal in making decisions on what to list. 

 

I've found the Listing Analytics tool interesting but much less helpful, perhaps because it duplicates a few of the features of Ominiture, but in a far less elegant and accessible way. 

 

My real issue lately is that, although the numbers are up, sales are down, and I'm experiencing complete "dead zones" of 2 or 3 weeks in a row that rarely occurred in previous years.  This despite having tried out free shipping, discount sales, reductions in prices, more and better photos, etc. etc. 

 

As I've hypothesized in other threads, I really do think something here on eBay has shifted radically, especially affecting those of us who sell OOAK items. 

 

 

 

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@pierrelebel wrote:

"but in my world, I know that an item with under 5 views in a week or so is one of the "unpopular" and items with 10 or more are "popular""

 

I do not put much weight on the number of viewers as there is no way to determine how many of those are from competitors or would be competitors.  I have seen items with 100 viewers the first week go unsold and items with no or few viewers sell.  I have never been able to determine a direct relationship between viewers, watchers and sales.  My main concern has always been with sales.  Not enough time to worry about the "small stuff".


My view is that what you describe may be a function of the type of items sold.  In the categories I sell, it's been my experience that it's predictable that an item with more than 10 views on the first day of listing will sell.  More than 10 in the first few hours will sell even faster.  I now have a fairly good idea of what items will be "hot" and what items may take a while to sell through. 

I suspect that in some areas of selling (like coins, stamps, books) where a number of sellers may offer exactly the same or similar product, sellers need to keep a close watch on each other, so in such areas it's reasonable to assume that competitors might account for the majority of viewers or watchers.  In my particular area, I doubt that is the case. 

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Hi! yes if you look at my listings anytime until August 30th you won't find any because August is my "RICARMIC eBay holiday" - my store is on vacation for August. The 1575 items are alive and well, just hidden from view until I take it off vacation. I mentioned it elsewhere, I'm probably still going to be working 40 hour weeks getting material ready and pictured for the big reopening in September, plus of course sneaking some family and fishing time in too!!! (As I said earlier it is better if you read my stuff, use what you think might work for you, don't use what you don't and don't focus too much on feedbacks, items listed etc because one can't tell everything from that either)
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"Every hour I spend on this board costs me $$$ because I'm not selling while I'm reading/posting"

Phew, what a relief. I thought that I was costing you a lot of money by sharing my opinion.
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