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cottagewoman · ‎08-19-2025

10 days away. No announcement from Canada Post, nothing from eBay Canada. Just a few rumors on some other conversations. Anybody listening? ? A Canadian reseller FB group has a contact in eBay Canada - as of 4 days ago they have no clue either.

There will best no more 'duty paid' by the buyer, collected by US CBP or USPS. All duty must be prepaid before any package arrives in the US, yes even if sent via Canada Post. Just to get that answer off the table.

flipistics · ‎08-20-2025

@videotimeplus wrote:
The sender has to pay the tariff? I thought the recipient pays the tariff like how it always worked, or did I miss something? Im so confused...

It makes sense that they'd do that since it allows Trump to sort of keep his promise of other people paying them. Of course, it will just mean that companies will apply the tariff rate at checkout so it's still the customer in the US that ultimately pays.

In effect, the USA just brought in a variable rate VAT that's hidden from the public in the item price. That's not too far off the truth since the vast majority of items everyday people buy probably aren't produced in the USA anyway (and still won't be).

ilikehockeyjerseys · ‎08-20-2025

You pay it upfront, but you're obviously not going to sell something to somebody and eat the cost. Going forward, the way to look at this would be like how you look at shipping costs.

If it costs you $20 at the point of sale for a shipping label to ship a buyer their item, you are going to work that cost into the item either as a line item at checkout "Shipping" or by building it into the Buy It Now cost. You are the one who directly pays for the label, but the customer pre-emptively reimburses you through paying for shipping (or paying a higher BIN w/ free shipping). The duty will be the same way once people figure it out. If a duty increases the cost of your item by $30, you would likely find a way to work that charge in at checkout and then you would pass on that $30 to Canada Post when you print the label.

I suspect that once it is hammered out, for the sellers who can get their head around the liability and complexity, that is how it will work. The major issue will be eBay not having built in calculators to include with your shipping policy.

From an economic POV, some would argue that the seller bears the cost regardless of the order it's paid, but that's a rabbit hole I won't go down, and it's not really what you're talking about. You're just talking about from a nuts and bolts how is this paid.

Personally, I may not ever go back to shipping to the USA because of concerns over the liability of sending hundreds of items to the USA that don't qualify for the de minimis. The kind of items that I've sold to the USA would be unlikely to appeal to them at a 15-35 percent markup (high if there are additional fees). Add in the liability of sending hundreds or thousands of items with customs declarations, where an error made in good faith could possibly open a seller up to fines. Higher costs and liabilities for much lower gain than before the de minimis. It will not make any sense to ship to the USA for most sellers.

reallynicestamps · ‎08-20-2025

I for one would be happy to put a link to your B&M on my FB page. I have several artists among my friends. @rdemaree

rdemaree · ‎08-20-2025

The brick in mortar wouldn’t by my own store but a store that has shown interest in my product in downtown Toronto. They are trying to branch out their made in Canada section because Canadians are surging with patriotism right now.

I appreciate the gesture!

Linking to my eBay shop for now would be more helpful unless they’re in the greater Toronto area, at whixh point pointing towards the BM store would be better.

Thanks!

I’m going all in on trying to maximize Canadian reach. This will be a good attitude to have even long after dump is long gone.

38e_avenue · ‎08-20-2025

@videotimeplus wrote:
The sender has to pay the tariff? I thought the recipient pays the tariff like how it always worked, or did I miss something? Im so confused...

You are definitely right, but sometimes a weird problem needs a weird solution.

john_koenig99 · ‎08-20-2025

@cottagewoman wrote:

There will best no more 'duty paid' by the buyer, collected by US CBP or USPS. All duty must be prepaid before any package arrives in the US, yes even if sent via Canada Post. Just to get that answer off the table.

I won't prepay any duty for no seller, US or not.

If that's going to be their game play, I will just cancel every single order from sellers down there (if I get any before removing the option for US buyers to buy anything from me).

belowthemark · ‎08-20-2025

It'll still be an informal entry though. Really isn't as complicated as you make it seem. You can use chatgpt or Grok on X, to give you suggestions on the HST code. Other than that, it makes no sense not to adapt and push forward.

belowthemark · ‎08-20-2025

If the small cross border shippers can do it, Canada post should be able to do it. Really feels like the Canadian government doesn't care about small businesses.

mrdutch1001 · ‎08-20-2025

"I won't prepay any duty for no seller, US or not."

1000% agree with you on that!

Firstly, I do not believe Canada Post will have a functional plan in place by August 29th...

I will not ship anything to the USA. Unfortunately, my USA buyers are having to pay the price(in more ways than one) for their USA Gov't's "We're Gonna Get Rich Quick" scheme...

Until my USA customers actually DO pay the tariffs, my shipping to USA will remain as "NO shipping to the USA"!

I will not help DT in his deception and efforts to disguise how tariffs are supposed to work...I will not be a part of DT's greedy "GetRichQuick" Scheme ...

Also, IMHO, I don't feel CUSMA compliant shipments are "safe" either...just as any legit "gift" shipment sent to a friend or relative in the USA will not be "safe"...anything & everything shipped from Canada to USA will be deemed "suspicious" as Canadian shipments will be treated as "guilty" until proven "innocent" for attempting to avoid tariffs....

In order to get through this crucial period I shall be hoping that Canadians will purchase more Canadian products and that all of us Canadian sellers will see an increase in sales from within Canada. It is important for us Canadian sellers to put forth additional efforts to support the economy of own country and to get beyond this relying on the USA... We need growth from within Canada and if possible expand to other countries where it is feasible to do so...Best wishes and good luck to all Canadian sellers!

lotzofuniquegoodies · ‎08-20-2025

@mrdutch1001 wrote:
"I won't prepay any duty for no seller, US or not."
1000% agree with you on that!
Firstly, I do not believe Canada Post will have a functional plan in place by August 29th...
I will not ship anything to the USA. Unfortunately, my USA buyers are having to pay the price(in more ways than one) for their USA Gov't's "We're Gonna Get Rich Quick" scheme...
Until my USA customers actually DO pay the tariffs, my shipping to USA will remain as "NO shipping to the USA"!
I will not help DT in his deception and efforts to disguise how tariffs are supposed to work...I will not be a part of DT's greedy "GetRichQuick" Scheme ...
Also, IMHO, I don't feel CUSMA compliant shipments are "safe" either...just as any legit "gift" shipment sent to a friend or relative in the USA will not be "safe"...anything & everything shipped from Canada to USA will be deemed "suspicious" as Canadian shipments will be treated as "guilty" until proven "innocent" for attempting to avoid tariffs....
In order to get through this crucial period I shall be hoping that Canadians will purchase more Canadian products and that all of us Canadian sellers will see an increase in sales from within Canada. It is important for us Canadian sellers to put forth additional efforts to support the economy of own country and to get beyond this relying on the USA... We need growth from within Canada and if possible expand to other countries where it is feasible to do so...Best wishes and good luck to all Canadian sellers!

@mrdutch1001

@john_koenig99

How many US sellers ship to Canada for free or eat any applicable taxes? Pretty sure that would be a quick count to zero to get the idea. It is beyond me why any Canadian seller would want to do or should have to do that for a US buyer.

Maybe give us a wb where we can choose the incoterm that works best for us and call it day. Like as it states on any listing shipped to an international location:

As the buyer, you should be aware of possible:

• Delays from customs inspection

• Import duties and taxes which buyers must pay

• Brokerage fees payable at the point of delivery

Your country's customs office can offer more details, or visit eBay's page on international trade.

Sellers responsibilities should end here:

Sellers declare the item's customs value and must comply with customs declaration laws.

john_koenig99 · ‎08-20-2025

Of course, I had to get quoted twice to realize my mistake...😁

I meant to say "`I won't prepay any duty for no BUYER, US or not."

Growing old is no fun 🙄

nhl_automotive · ‎08-20-2025

Where are you getting this info? I see nothing in the links about duty being prepaid by seller.

cottagewoman · ‎08-20-2025

Please see this summary I've put together:

https://community.ebay.ca/t5/Seller-Central/Summary-Overview-of-US-De-Minimis-repeal-and-effects/td-...

cottagewoman · ‎08-20-2025

From Etsy (https://www.etsy.com/seller-handbook/article/1355662653395😞

Given the complexities, legal requirements, and poor experience, many postal providers will be suspending DDU service or changing delivery options to the US. In light of this, effective August 25, Etsy will be suspending shipping label purchases on Etsy for Australia Post, Canada Post, Evri and Royal Mail for US bound packages. We are in close contact with these carriers and will reactivate label offerings on Etsy when they are able to support orders into the US with DDP options.

mrdutch1001 · ‎08-20-2025

just so you know I was quite confident you meant BUYER, not seller...which is why I went ahead and agreed with the statement...but I guess, in all honesty, I should have pointed out the error in the wording at that time...Sorry, I was too busy editing my own comment to make sure I got the wording correct with my own post...

ilikehockeyjerseys · ‎08-20-2025

I assume eBay will do the same thing.

Hopefully if they take that same precaution, it doesn't happen overnight and we at least get a few days warning.

sin-n-dex · ‎08-20-2025

I had a plan to increase prices and provide a cost breakdown to show the tariffs. No one has said but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be allowed since US buyers are being told the seller pays the tariff.

chicweb · ‎08-20-2025

Why would Canada Post do anything? Duties are paid by the receivers, not the senders. It will by DDU like usual, the recipient need to pay duties.

That's the same with the other countries in the world. Nothing will be different for the United States. Sellers doesn't have to care about this at all (buyers are responsible for duties). It is written everywhere in the checkout process.

eBay protects sellers in this case. (I think you don't even have to refund buyers if they refuse to pay duties, but dont quote me on that).

Canada Post doesn't have anything to do with collecting duties of other countries govnerments.

mrdutch1001 · ‎08-20-2025

wait for it...wait for it...will eBay do likewise?..My other selling site (Etsy) has just removed the ability to purchase Canada Post shipping labels through Etsy for shipments to the USA...Etsy expects sellers to pay the duties and tariffs by using those shipping companies and carriers that require sellers to pre-pay the duties and tariffs...Etsy's reasoning(much like DT's) have the seller pay the tariffs to spare the buyer that cost...Etsy's statement being: "By using a DDP model, you can present a tariff-inclusive price on Etsy, eliminating surprises for the buyer upon delivery. This also eliminates the risk of your buyer refusing to pay a tariff after their item has already made the journey to its destination."

Really??? NO Way! Buyer pays or I don't ship to USA!

lotzofuniquegoodies · ‎08-20-2025

@sin-n-dex wrote:
I had a plan to increase prices and provide a cost breakdown to show the tariffs. No one has said but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be allowed since US buyers are being told the seller pays the tariff.

@sin-n-dex

Have you ever heard of a US seller being penalilzed for to the moon shipping for intl. sales?I've seen more examples than I care to remember. Sellers build in "handling charges" as a matter of standard practice. They have to have a fee to cover either expenses and/or cookie jar insurance. As a side it would be a reasonal guess there are loads of sellers across all borders that could have discounted shipping turned on....but don't!! Similar to the concept of sellers that have restocking charges like for buyers remorse situations. For your situation at your discretion you could call it "the tourist" or "DJT" special price for foreigners.

I believe in the past there were limits to how much a seller could charge for shipping in certain categories. I don't think that is the case anymore.

As per eBay:

Reasonableness is Key:
eBay's system considers what buyers perceive as reasonable shipping costs, based on recent sales data and buyer feedback.
Shipping and Handling:
Sellers can also include a handling fee to cover the costs associated with preparing and shipping the item.

Some specific eBay categories may have maximum shipping costs, but these are generally set at higher amounts, like $20 or more

And this: Probably not updated since 2002 + or -. It's not dated.
https://www.ebay.ca/help/selling/shipping-items/maximum-shipping-costs?id=4655

International sellers
International sellers listing directly on eBay.com in the US are also required to specify a shipping cost within the specified limit for the category.🤣😂🤣